IRC log of #schooltool for Tuesday, 2015-11-03

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th1ahi replaceafill.17:25
replaceafillhey th1a17:25
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th1aHow is the API work coming?17:26
replaceafilli created the new schooltool.journey package17:28
replaceafilladded a configuration handler17:29
replaceafilland started adding event notifications to ST17:29
replaceafillnothing complicated at this point17:30
th1aI wired your pay yesterday.17:31
replaceafillah ok17:31
replaceafilli'm downloading the uganda files17:32
th1aI'm very confused about why the logs are apparently so big if you didn't see many changes in the db.17:32
th1aIsn't that what they're sending?17:32
th1aMaybe I'm confused.17:32
th1aI thought you had the db.17:33
replaceafillthey're sending the logs and the db17:33
replaceafilli had one db17:33
replaceafillbut i asked them for the entire /var/lib/schooltool folder17:33
replaceafillto see the evolution backups17:33
th1aWe have the meeting with Glenda at 1:00 your time.17:33
th1aWhat do you think about making backups by default on imports?17:34
replaceafillto me imports are too frequent for that17:35
th1aI suspect it is too difficult to allow people to do some management of backup databases from the UI.17:38
th1aToo difficult for the benefit.17:39
th1aLike: switch to this db and reboot, or delete these.17:39
replaceafillsounds difficult :)17:39
th1aOur biggest support problem at this point is probably "I screwed up this import..."17:41
th1aMaybe we could add a checkbox to do a backup?17:42
replaceafillthat makes sense17:42
replaceafillbut only glenda screws her imports, right?17:42
replaceafilli mean17:42
replaceafillthe VA users17:43
th1aNo, dally certainly does.17:43
th1aOther people do.17:43
th1aI'd be in favor of getting that into 3.0.17:44
replaceafillwhat's the goal for the proximity meeting?17:45
replaceafillit's just 30 mins right?17:46
th1aWell, find out if they tried the demo, tell them how to if they didn't.  Tell them we won't have much time for a few months.17:46
th1aThey may have some pretty discrete task that will make this useful to them that would only take a couple days.17:47
th1aIf that is true, we may need to try to squeeze it in.17:47
replaceafillin the VA's case17:47
th1aLike -- if we can just sync this specific data, then we can really use SchoolTool.17:48
replaceafilli'm wondering17:48
replaceafillhow many of Glenda's requests are new features17:48
th1aYeah, that's what we have to find out.17:48
th1aIt isn't clear.17:49
th1aI think the pre-import backup is something that'll be good to have to offer.17:49
th1aOK, I don't have anything else between now and then.17:53
th1a(to discuss)17:53
th1aI'll let you check out these files...17:53
replaceafilloh wait17:53
replaceafillmeeting with proximity is on thursday!?!?!17:53
th1aWhen did you think?17:54
replaceafilli thought it was in 5 minutes17:54
replaceafilli'll start debugging the uganda db then17:54
th1aThanks replaceafill.17:54
replaceafillthanks th1a17:54
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replaceafillth1a, you around?19:34
replaceafillok, i checked the db backups19:35
replaceafilland something happened between backup 3 and 219:35
replaceafillseptember data got completely lost19:36
replaceafillbackup 3 has september attendance data19:36
replaceafilland lots of transactions19:36
replaceafilllike 1k19:36
replaceafillbackup 2 has no september attendance data19:36
replaceafilland transactions are like 70% only19:37
replaceafillthe dbs don't appear to be packed19:37
th1aBackup 2 is more recent?19:37
replaceafillno, we habe backup 1, 0 and current Data.fs19:37
replaceafilli'm just going from 5 to 019:37
replaceafill5 being the oldest19:37
th1aSo yes, backup 2 is more recent than 3.19:38
th1aWhat do you mean by " and transactions are like 70% only"19:38
th1a70% of what was in 3?19:39
th1aAre you pretty certain it wasn't packed?19:39
replaceafilli think so, there's a lot in the undogLog19:40
replaceafilli haven't tried yet, but i'm sure that if i pack one of them19:40
replaceafillthe undoLog will almost disappear19:40
replaceafilland they share most of the undoLog until certain point19:40
replaceafillit's really weird19:41
replaceafillnot sure if a filled disk can cause this19:41
replaceafilli haven't checked the logs yet19:41
replaceafilli've just been comparing dbs19:41
th1aIs this consistent with switching to an earlier backup between 2 and 3?19:41
replaceafillearlier backup?19:42
th1aLike, before the September data was entered?19:42
replaceafillthere's no backups between 2 and 3...19:42
th1aLike, if you went to backup 4?19:42
replaceafillif i check backup 119:42
replaceafilloh yeah19:43
replaceafillbackup 4 has only data up to may19:43
th1aThat would be the only hypothesis I can come up with.19:43
replaceafillit looks like september was the first time they loaded attendance data19:43
th1aIf you manually deleted the data through the web, if you figured out how to do it, there would still be MORE transactions, not less.19:45
replaceafillok, i'm going to check the logs and see if there's something there19:45
replaceafillth1a, right19:45
th1aI'm going to finish proofreading the paper...19:45
replaceafilli don't think this has been caused by the user19:45
th1aMaybe a sys admin error.19:47
th1aAre you on the hangout?21:00
replaceafilloh, i thought we were going to use skype21:01
replaceafillhold on21:01
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