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| asdsd | Hello i was just wonering if there is any plan for school tool in centos | 02:05 |
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| asdsd | I just saw this software and i am kinda interested. However as a linux engineer, our company uses Centos OS and i would like to give that a shot | 02:06 |
| th1a | hi asdsd. | 02:16 |
| th1a | Various people have done rpm packaging in the past, it is definitely doable. | 02:17 |
| th1a | Nobody has really stuck with it over time though. | 02:17 |
| th1a | At this point SchoolTool packaging is a LOT of packages, because the underlying framework -- Zope -- was split up into many packages. | 02:18 |
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| replaceafill | th1a, http://dev.schooltool.org:8888/schoolyears/2013-2014/groups/group07 | 17:33 |
| th1a | hi replaceafill. | 17:33 |
| replaceafill | Student Name Labels report | 17:33 |
| replaceafill | hey th1a | 17:33 |
| replaceafill | i found a word file with the 5160 avery template: | 17:35 |
| replaceafill | http://www.avery.com/vgnfiles/blank/U-0087-01_P.doc | 17:35 |
| replaceafill | as usual we need a description for that report :) | 17:36 |
| th1a | You could probably make the line spacing smaller. | 17:36 |
| replaceafill | ah sure | 17:36 |
| th1a | It looks like you're cutting the margin a little close. | 17:36 |
| th1a | Actually, just tighten it up between the names and leave it the same for the extra line. | 17:37 |
| replaceafill | hhmm | 17:37 |
| replaceafill | ok, i think i can use two paragraph styles to do it | 17:38 |
| th1a | For the description just "Formatted for Avery 5160 labels." | 17:39 |
| th1a | Right? | 17:39 |
| replaceafill | ah ko | 17:39 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:39 |
| th1a | I'm going to go print a group sign in/out. | 17:42 |
| th1a | Just a sec. | 17:42 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:42 |
| th1a | I accidentally printed one out on 3x5 photo paper. | 17:48 |
| th1a | Looks pretty sharp! | 17:48 |
| replaceafill | :D | 17:48 |
| th1a | However, I think (on letter size now), we've finally gone too small. | 17:48 |
| th1a | I think we need to allow a little more vertical space for writing in those boxes. | 17:49 |
| th1a | It would be fine for reading. | 17:49 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 17:49 |
| replaceafill | how tall do you think those rows should be? | 17:51 |
| th1a | I'd say two more points. | 17:51 |
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| th1a | Maybe a touch more. | 17:51 |
| replaceafill | two more points on the fonts, keeping the top/bottom paddings | 17:51 |
| th1a | I mean, basically print it out and write on it. | 17:51 |
| th1a | That's what I'd try first. | 17:52 |
| th1a | I mean... I guess 50% more in total? | 17:52 |
| replaceafill | i think that's an easy change, let me try it | 17:52 |
| th1a | People's signatures get big. | 17:52 |
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| replaceafill | http://dev.schooltool.org:8888/schoolyears/2013-2014/groups/group07/sign_in_out.pdf | 17:54 |
| replaceafill | Ubuntu Regular 10 | 17:54 |
| replaceafill | (it was 8) | 17:54 |
| th1a | Just a sec... | 17:55 |
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| replaceafill | i'm not sure if Rick uses the samples he sent | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | but i printed his Sign In & Out | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | and the row heights was very similar | 17:57 |
| replaceafill | our font was smaller | 17:57 |
| th1a | OK, let's go with this for now. | 17:58 |
| replaceafill | kk | 17:58 |
| th1a | Hm... | 18:01 |
| th1a | OK, I'm setting up a 12.04 vm and can't get add-apt-repository to work. | 18:02 |
| replaceafill | maybe you need to install python-software-properties | 18:03 |
| th1a | I had a hash sum mismatch error in updating that probably is causing it. | 18:03 |
| replaceafill | ah | 18:03 |
| replaceafill | i had that a few days ago with one of the linodes | 18:04 |
| th1a | Yeah, you need to clear the cache or something. | 18:04 |
| replaceafill | i didn't find a solution :( | 18:04 |
| replaceafill | i tried that | 18:04 |
| replaceafill | but it didnt work for me | 18:04 |
| replaceafill | deleting the lists | 18:04 |
| replaceafill | partial | 18:04 |
| replaceafill | etc | 18:04 |
| th1a | Huh. Works for me now. | 18:04 |
| replaceafill | it got fixed the next day :/ | 18:04 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 18:04 |
| th1a | Man, I've got a big pipe now. | 18:05 |
| replaceafill | a big pipe? | 18:05 |
| th1a | Fibre optic pipe. | 18:06 |
| replaceafill | :| | 18:06 |
| replaceafill | how much download? | 18:06 |
| th1a | Let's try it... | 18:07 |
| th1a | 57.9 Mbps. | 18:07 |
| th1a | That doesn't even seem right. | 18:07 |
| th1a | I'd better check to see if I don't have a more expensive plan that I'm supposed to! | 18:07 |
| replaceafill | :D | 18:07 |
| replaceafill | ok, i'll work on the custom reports | 18:08 |
| replaceafill | and finish the contact labels | 18:08 |
| th1a | OK, so I'll upload the new VM page today. I'm happy with how it turned out. | 18:08 |
| replaceafill | i just found the 5163 template | 18:08 |
| replaceafill | ah nice | 18:08 |
| th1a | I'll feel less panicky next time I have to deal with that. | 18:08 |
| replaceafill | :D | 18:08 |
| th1a | And especially if a client wants to do it. | 18:08 |
| th1a | The big thing is that we can now give instructions that are entirely self-contained. You don't need to know anything about the user's network. | 18:09 |
| th1a | Or make them figure out anything about their own network. | 18:09 |
| th1a | OK. Thanks replaceafill. | 18:11 |
| replaceafill | ok, thanks th1a | 18:11 |
| * replaceafill goes to get breakfast, bb in ~30 | 18:12 | |
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| th1a | replaceafill: ayt? | 23:08 |
| replaceafill | th1a, yes | 23:09 |
| th1a | How difficult would it be to make first names optional in ST? | 23:10 |
| th1a | Would we get errors all over the place? | 23:10 |
| replaceafill | hhmm | 23:10 |
| replaceafill | maybe just the person index | 23:11 |
| replaceafill | i mean, catalog | 23:11 |
| replaceafill | we could adjust the title property on person to deal with it | 23:11 |
| replaceafill | did you get a request about it? | 23:12 |
| th1a | Apparently they use one name in Bhutan. | 23:12 |
| replaceafill | i've always wondered how important is the first_name, last_name split | 23:13 |
| replaceafill | instead of just a "full name" field | 23:14 |
| replaceafill | since i read some article on usability :D | 23:14 |
| th1a | In which context? | 23:14 |
| replaceafill | UIs | 23:15 |
| replaceafill | forms | 23:15 |
| th1a | Entering names in a single field? | 23:15 |
| replaceafill | yeah | 23:16 |
| th1a | We definitely wouldn't want that. | 23:16 |
| replaceafill | sure | 23:16 |
| replaceafill | i just wonder how well that works | 23:16 |
| replaceafill | :) | 23:16 |
| replaceafill | anyway | 23:16 |
| replaceafill | we could give the first_name change a try | 23:16 |
| th1a | I'd say that's pretty far down the list of usability issues in the world. | 23:16 |
| th1a | I'll say it is probably possible. | 23:16 |
| replaceafill | is anyone using ST in Bhutan | 23:16 |
| th1a | Not yet! | 23:17 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 23:17 |
| replaceafill | potential customer | 23:17 |
| th1a | Potential user at least. | 23:17 |
| replaceafill | :) | 23:17 |
| replaceafill | th1a, you around? | 23:36 |
| th1a | hi replaceafill. | 23:40 |
| replaceafill | quick question | 23:41 |
| replaceafill | on the report specs, for mailing labels you wrote: | 23:41 |
| replaceafill | "Pick up all the parent-ish (not siblings) contacts with addresses and them (by last, first)." | 23:41 |
| replaceafill | the "and them" means sort them, right? | 23:41 |
| replaceafill | we usually sort according to the Name sorting setting | 23:42 |
| th1a | Uh, maybe I mean the students themselves? | 23:43 |
| replaceafill | the students? but we print the contacts in that report | 23:44 |
| replaceafill | not the students | 23:44 |
| th1a | If they have addresses? | 23:45 |
| replaceafill | yes | 23:45 |
| th1a | Why wouldn't we print the student's addresses if they had them? | 23:45 |
| replaceafill | oh! the self-contact | 23:46 |
| th1a | There are no self contacts, I'm told. ;-) | 23:46 |
| replaceafill | i didn't take those into account :(s | 23:46 |
| th1a | The current user wouldn't care but a college would. | 23:46 |
| replaceafill | bound contact :P | 23:47 |
| replaceafill | i'll add those | 23:47 |
| replaceafill | but what about the sorting? | 23:47 |
| replaceafill | should i stick to the name_sorting preference | 23:48 |
| replaceafill | or do you think we should override that for some reason? | 23:48 |
| replaceafill | forcing (last, first) | 23:48 |
| th1a | No, don't override. | 23:48 |
| replaceafill | kk | 23:48 |
| replaceafill | thanks | 23:48 |
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