IRC log of #schooltool for Wednesday, 2013-01-09

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th1ahi replaceafill...16:30
replaceafillhey th1a16:30
th1ayvl? menesis?16:30
th1aIs this a holiday in Lithuania?16:31
th1aOK, why don't you go ahead replaceafill.16:32
th1aThey can read the logs...16:32
replaceafillsince we're using trunks as dev now16:32
replaceafilland even i haven't had response of dwelsh/glenda on the IEP functionality16:32
replaceafilli decided to land the iep functionality into cando trunk16:33
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replaceafillso i don't have to jump between trunk and my own branch for the multi scoresystem reports16:33
replaceafillthis made me realize that the stests in the virginia package were out-of-date16:34
replaceafillso i updated them to work with latest cando16:34
replaceafilli think i'll finish the multi-scoresystem functionality for the section summary today16:35
replaceafillth1a, maybe i can show it to you tomorrow?16:35
replaceafillor on friday?16:35
th1aThat's fine.  Yes, tomorrow will be good for that.16:35
replaceafilli'll catch you tomorrow with the update16:36
* replaceafill is done16:36
th1aOK... I guess we'll continue if anyone else appears...16:37
replaceafillmenesis is here :)16:37
th1aOh, menesis?16:38
menesisI have little to say16:40
th1aWe don't need long meetings.  ;-)16:40
menesislooked at aelkner's changes16:40
menesisnow many modules need latest trunk of others16:41
menesisso I think it's time to cut an alpha release16:41
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menesisfor the report feature16:42
th1aOK.  Sounds fine.16:42
menesisand many gradebook changes that in turn cando relies on16:43
menesismaybe aelkner and replaceafill are still finishing what they have merged16:44
menesisso not immediately, but soon16:44
replaceafillmenesis, i'll have an update on friday probably16:44
replaceafillwith the multi-score reports16:45
menesisyeah, sure16:45
menesisso this alpha will be about reports and scoresystems16:46
menesisand celery for the next release16:46
* menesis done16:47
th1aThanks menesis.16:48
yvltook a day off on Tue16:49
yvlmade some progress on celery today16:49
yvllooked at running tests mostly16:49
yvlthat's it...16:49
th1aI have something to bring up related to what I wrote about intervention last night.16:50
th1aIt would probably be best for the whole thing to melt away as a separate tab/component.16:51
th1a(I mean, internally it will still be separate on the software level)16:51
th1aBut not a major tab/location/function from the user's point of view.16:52
th1aThe alternative to what I'm talking about, btw, would be to grow intervention into a full discipline system, which I don't see happening.16:52
th1aIn particular because I'm sure different countries have WILDLY different workflows for that kind of thing.16:53
th1aNor, for that matter have we gotten many requests for it.16:53
th1aSo anyhow, Interventions is essentially goals and messages.16:53
th1aThe goals could be just moved to the person view.16:54
th1aThe messages really ought to be part of a more generic messaging system.16:54
yvlalso, the main "School" overview16:54
th1aAnd if we're talking about letting you know your report is done...16:54
th1aMaybe we'll end up more or less writing a little message center anyhow.16:55
th1aSee what I'm getting at yvl?16:56
yvlyes :)16:56
th1aI'm not talking about anything complicated, and I don't want to re-write a bunch of stuff.16:57
yvlsure, I get it16:58
th1aOK.  Cool.16:58
yvlsomething like "events"16:58
yvlor "mail"16:58
th1aThis would be more like events.16:58
th1aYou wouldn't send from here.16:58
th1aYou could go to a student's goal and update it, and that would send an event.16:59
th1aLet's call them events then.16:59
th1aNot messages.16:59
th1aGoals and events.16:59
th1aThat is more in line with what intervention actually does anyhow.16:59
yvl‚úČ :)17:00
th1aYou can't really use it to send messages back and forth at all.17:00
yvlI think we're on the same page17:00
th1aOK, that's it.  I'm writing an article about CanDo.17:01
th1aThanks guys!17:01
th1aHave a good week/end.17:01
* th1a drops the bag of gravel.17:01
replaceafillthanks everybody17:02
yvlthanks guys!17:03
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th1aho let's go?22:02
dreichI'm using the freenode web interface and was not sure it was working22:02
th1aApparently so.22:03
dreich@replaceafill pgulley ought to be here soon22:04
replaceafilldreich, i just shared a google doc with you and pgulley22:04
replaceafillit's about setting up your dev env22:04
replaceafillwith jelkner's database22:04
replaceafillour goal today is to get that done, ok?22:05
replaceafilllet me know if you have questions22:05
dreichcool!  I appreciate the specificity :P22:05
replaceafilli needed to test the steps :P22:05
dreichI might have a problem right now, actually22:08
dreichI'm on a computer at school and I don't really have a dev environment22:08
dreich(also, pgulley just informed me he'll be a little late)22:08
dreichI have a laptop, but it's a few miles away.  I also have a server that is very out of date22:09
replaceafilldid we have a vps for pyquiz?22:09
dreichwe had a deployment server22:10
replaceafillwell, i think you should run these steps on the machine you're going to develop regularly22:11
dreichyeah, I agree22:11
replaceafilli think jelkner is afk22:11
replaceafilllet me see22:11
replaceafillyep, he's offline22:11
replaceafillwell, try to set the instance up on your own22:11
replaceafilli really think that's the first step22:12
replaceafillwe can get into explaining stuff *after* that22:12
dreichI'll try it this evening, at least22:12
dreichwhen pgulley comes on, he should be at home with his dev environment22:12
replaceafillcool, send me an email telling me how it goes22:13
replaceafilli can meet tomorrow if you want to22:13
replaceafilli can't on friday though22:13
dreichokay, I can be on email22:14
replaceafillgood luck!22:14
dreichtomorrow would be tricky, but if I do have problems I'll try to be around22:14
replaceafilledit the doc as needed22:15
dreichit should go smoothly though22:15
replaceafilland write questions/comments there22:15
replaceafilli hope so22:15
dreichalso, any specific ubuntu needed?22:15
replaceafillnot really, 12.10 would be good22:15
dreichI remember having problems with that last time22:15
replaceafillthat's what i'm running22:15
replaceafillbut it was mostly pyquiz not supporting python 2.722:15
replaceafillnot really a ubuntu thing22:15
replaceafilloh! chrome driver :)22:15
dreichI'll be in touch then, unless there's anything else immediate?22:16
replaceafilli need to update the doc ;)22:16
dreichyup, I remember that too :)22:16
replaceafilldreich, i don't think so22:16
dreichcool.  talk to you later then!  I might call pgulley and fill him in on my situation so you don't have to22:16
replaceafilland thanks22:16
dreichright, g'bye!22:17
replaceafillsee u22:17
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pgulleySorry I'm late!22:26
replaceafillhey paulproteus22:26
replaceafillhey pgulley22:26
paulproteusWell hi to you anyway! (:22:26
pgulleyhaha, hello to all.22:26
replaceafillpgulley, i shared a google doc with you and dreich22:27
replaceafillso you can follow it to set up your dev env22:27
pgulleyso you did! excellent.22:27
replaceafilldreich wasn't in his work pc, so he's going to try later22:27
pgulleyAlrighty then, awesome. I am right where I need to be, so I'll get this working asap.22:28
replaceafillpgulley, kk, let me know if you have trouble/questions22:29
replaceafilland feel free to edit the doc, add comments/questions, etc22:29
pgulleyreplaceafill, I'm not sure I'm going to be able to finish setting this up in the time I have left here, but I'll get it up tonight and take a look at at it then.22:49
pgulleyThanks so much22:49
replaceafillgood luck22:49
th1areplaceafill:  Can you reply to Glenda's new question?22:50
replaceafillth1a, no idea what's going on22:50
th1aWell, I'm sure, but I guess I need you to say that.  What might we do to try to debug this?22:51
th1aSee the sheets?22:51
replaceafillif that's an option, yes22:51
replaceafilli'll ask her for that22:51
th1aI'd use that as a first step.22:52
th1aWe don't need to see the whole thing I wouldn't think.22:52
replaceafillthis kind of email is becoming hard for me to reply, since it says "nothing" :(22:52
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th1aWe just have to have some kind of request that might move things forward.22:55
replaceafilli think i'm just trying to avoid the IEP situation all over again22:56
replaceafillgetting delayed by support requests :P22:56
th1aAh, I know...22:56
th1aI'm getting a bit worried about that.22:56
th1aWe'll need to get yvl out of the weeds...22:56

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