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| th1a | hi yvl, menesis, aelkner_. | 16:31 |
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| yvl | hi guys | 16:31 |
| th1a | replaceafill won't be with us this morning. | 16:31 |
| aelkner_ | morning | 16:32 |
| yvl | oh, so it's going to be a short meeting it seems | 16:32 |
| th1a | Well... | 16:32 |
| th1a | OK, so what's your status yvl? | 16:33 |
| yvl | umm | 16:33 |
| yvl | preparing to hand off some hacky views to aelkner_ tomorrow | 16:34 |
| yvl | as in - minimal layers / nodes creation | 16:34 |
| yvl | btw, th1a - could you send Antonio... | 16:35 |
| yvl | something that needs to be sent if anything needs to be sent | 16:36 |
| yvl | in regards of hotel / car booking | 16:36 |
| th1a | Such as? | 16:36 |
| yvl | I don't know | 16:36 |
| th1a | I don't think there is anything to do. | 16:37 |
| yvl | ah, ok then | 16:37 |
| th1a | We can hold off on the invoices so you can be reimbursed as soon as you get back. | 16:37 |
| yvl | thanks | 16:38 |
| th1a | OK, so you guys have time set aside for a longish meeting tomorrow? | 16:39 |
| yvl | well... longish? | 16:40 |
| aelkner_ | yvl, we are meeting here same time tomorrow, right? | 16:40 |
| yvl | yes | 16:40 |
| yvl | and we can do a hangout if need be | 16:41 |
| aelkner_ | yes | 16:41 |
| th1a | OK, so I did some project management-ing yesterday. | 16:42 |
| th1a | It looks like history model and views will come after Portugal for yvl. | 16:42 |
| th1a | And then fixing score systems. | 16:43 |
| th1a | With three weeks for history and score systems. | 16:43 |
| yvl | ok | 16:44 |
| th1a | Thanks yvl. | 16:44 |
| th1a | You should plan on being available for the meetings next week. | 16:45 |
| yvl | ok | 16:45 |
| th1a | Is menesis not here? | 16:46 |
| yvl | he's pairing with Tautvilas on Philippines thing | 16:47 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:48 |
| th1a | I've nothing pressing for him. | 16:48 |
| th1a | OK, aelkner_ then. I guess this will be a quick meeting. | 16:48 |
| aelkner_ | yeah, i don't have uch to say, either | 16:48 |
| aelkner_ | i moved the global skill data import/export to the ISkillSetContainer index.html view | 16:49 |
| aelkner_ | and i started in on making the term report for competency completion | 16:50 |
| aelkner_ | i noticed that the term Actions menu has lost its registration | 16:50 |
| aelkner_ | so the Delete action doesn't appear, either | 16:50 |
| aelkner_ | i was hoping to add the link for the report there | 16:51 |
| aelkner_ | the reason for that is that the Reports menu doesn't have the same registration as other menus | 16:51 |
| aelkner_ | so i couldn't see how to add a menu item to it, and i'm not sure we want it there, anyway | 16:51 |
| aelkner_ | yvl, the Reports menu is a different animal than the others, isn't it? | 16:52 |
| aelkner_ | i mean, in the sense that the links are rendered there viz special code in the schooltool.report package | 16:52 |
| th1a | So we need to fix the action menu too? | 16:53 |
| aelkner_ | i can put the registration back, i just need the ok, in other words, why was it removed? | 16:53 |
| yvl | yes, reports are somewhat different | 16:53 |
| aelkner_ | so would you agree that the html view for looking at competency completion shouldn't go there? | 16:54 |
| th1a | I think we should put the html report under reports. | 16:55 |
| th1a | It isn't an action. | 16:55 |
| aelkner_ | it isn't a report, either | 16:55 |
| aelkner_ | it doesn't get downloaded | 16:55 |
| th1a | It IS a report. | 16:55 |
| th1a | That is its function. | 16:55 |
| aelkner_ | it's a data analysis tool to be sure | 16:56 |
| aelkner_ | it isn't something that is to be downloaded, though | 16:56 |
| aelkner_ | and all our reports work that way | 16:56 |
| aelkner_ | along wth the registration of the links for requesting them | 16:56 |
| th1a | Well, look. It doesn't make sense to put it anywhere else. | 16:57 |
| th1a | We discussed this on Monday. | 16:57 |
| aelkner_ | well, i looked into adding the lnk to the Reports menu, and as i just reported here, it can't be done | 16:57 |
| aelkner_ | unless we change the way schooltool.report works, i'm not sure how we would do that | 16:58 |
| aelkner_ | perhaps yvl would have a suggestion | 16:58 |
| th1a | We just need to let those links go to a url instead of opening a dialog. | 16:58 |
| th1a | Right? | 16:58 |
| aelkner_ | yes, so i'm guessing an option would need to be added to the reportLijnk directive | 16:59 |
| aelkner_ | that would result in rendering a different kind of link | 16:59 |
| * yvl doesn't remember how report registration works... let me take a look | 17:00 | |
| aelkner_ | to be honest, i wouldn't want to have to change the reportLink directive if we can avoid it | 17:02 |
| aelkner_ | there is so much there thqat has to do with downloading, like file type, for instance | 17:02 |
| aelkner_ | it would be nice to just be able to register a link against the viewlet manager | 17:03 |
| aelkner_ | but the manager is not registered in the way our other linksets are, so i can't register against it | 17:03 |
| aelkner_ | yvl, is there a way to just change that? | 17:03 |
| yvl | aelkner_, isn't there a thing is_report_link ? | 17:03 |
| aelkner_ | where? | 17:04 |
| yvl | in report/browser/report.py | 17:05 |
| aelkner_ | i grepped it, looking now | 17:05 |
| yvl | I think, if you don't specify file type, it acts as a simple link | 17:05 |
| yvl | (as in html :) ) | 17:06 |
| aelkner_ | ah, i see, ok | 17:06 |
| aelkner_ | nicely done, you anticipated this :) | 17:06 |
| aelkner_ | no file type, no download request | 17:07 |
| yvl | I think Douglas did that | 17:07 |
| th1a | OK. Problem solved. | 17:07 |
| th1a | Presumably the Action menu should go back in there though. | 17:07 |
| aelkner_ | yvl, how do our tests even pass without the Actions menu? | 17:08 |
| aelkner_ | unless we removed the tests for deleting terms | 17:08 |
| yvl | there were tests for deleting terms? | 17:09 |
| th1a | Are you supposed to be able to delete terms? | 17:09 |
| aelkner_ | just checked, actually there aren't any term tests yet | 17:09 |
| aelkner_ | th1a, that's why i ask, there may be a reason we disabled that menu item | 17:09 |
| th1a | OK, forget this issue. | 17:09 |
| th1a | MOve on. | 17:09 |
| aelkner_ | ok, i'll table it for now | 17:10 |
| yvl | there is a term delete link registered | 17:10 |
| yvl | in flourish | 17:10 |
| yvl | yes | 17:10 |
| aelkner_ | yeah, but the Actions menu is not registered | 17:10 |
| yvl | and it looks like actions menu is removed in terms explicitly | 17:10 |
| aelkner_ | right, so why? | 17:10 |
| yvl | as in - it is written in python, | 17:10 |
| yvl | no registration in zcml | 17:11 |
| yvl | th1a should know why | 17:11 |
| aelkner_ | it's sloppy to have a menu in python that is not reristered | 17:11 |
| aelkner_ | either we decide to have no Actions menu in the term view, or we register it | 17:12 |
| th1a | Is this just in terms? | 17:12 |
| aelkner_ | yes | 17:12 |
| th1a | Maybe at some point I decided deleting terms was a bad idea and someone just hacked out the whole menu. | 17:12 |
| th1a | ? | 17:13 |
| th1a | aelkner_, could you file a bug for it? | 17:13 |
| aelkner_ | sure | 17:13 |
| aelkner_ | otherwise, that's it for me | 17:13 |
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| th1a | OK, I guess we're done then. | 17:13 |
| th1a | OK, I should see you guys tomorrow then. | 17:14 |
| * menesis is here | 17:15 | |
| th1a | oop. | 17:15 |
| menesis | but I can only say that I have uploaded 2.1.0 to the ppa | 17:15 |
| menesis | oneiric, natty, and lucid | 17:15 |
| th1a | Do you want to chat a bit about release plans for this cycle? | 17:15 |
| th1a | (we don't have to do it today if you're in the middle of something else) | 17:16 |
| menesis | better another day | 17:16 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:17 |
| aelkner_ | filed a buf: | 17:17 |
| aelkner_ | bug | 17:17 |
| aelkner_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/schooltool/+bug/993302 | 17:17 |
| th1a | I'll send an email menesis. | 17:17 |
| menesis | good | 17:17 |
| th1a | Did you add release notes to the book? | 17:18 |
| menesis | yes | 17:18 |
| th1a | OK thanks. | 17:18 |
| menesis | I have assembled the changelogs and commited them | 17:18 |
| th1a | We're done then. | 17:18 |
| menesis | but not uploaded to book.s.o | 17:18 |
| th1a | If you could do that today and ping me I'd appreciate it. | 17:19 |
| menesis | done | 17:20 |
| menesis | http://book.schooltool.org/2.1-release-notes.html | 17:21 |
| th1a | Thanks! | 17:21 |
| menesis | it is only the technical changelog since 2.0.3 release in march, though | 17:21 |
| th1a | Sure. | 17:21 |
| th1a | OK. Thanks guys. See you tomorrow or Wednesday! | 17:22 |
| * th1a drops the bag of gravel. | 17:22 | |
| th1a | jelkner: You can call now. | 17:22 |
| yvl | thanks guys | 17:24 |
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| th1a | Hi replaceafill. | 18:48 |
| replaceafill | hey th1a | 18:48 |
| replaceafill | i didn't ping you right away because i'm eating my breakfast :) | 18:48 |
| replaceafill | ...and reading the logs | 18:49 |
| th1a | np | 18:49 |
| th1a | How's Camilla? | 18:49 |
| replaceafill | Camila has tonsilitis(?) | 18:49 |
| th1a | Ah. | 18:49 |
| th1a | Are they going to have to take them out? | 18:50 |
| replaceafill | fortunately no | 18:50 |
| replaceafill | the doctor just gave us antibiotics (i think) | 18:50 |
| th1a | I don't think they do that as much as they used to (here at least). | 18:50 |
| th1a | We just heard Vivian got into our first choice for Kindergarten. | 18:57 |
| replaceafill | congrats! | 18:57 |
| replaceafill | wow, it seems like it's kind of difficult to get into kindergarten over there | 18:58 |
| replaceafill | like college :D | 18:58 |
| th1a | Well... there is a choice system in Providence. | 18:58 |
| replaceafill | ah | 18:58 |
| th1a | Which means lottery for the most in-demand schools. | 18:58 |
| th1a | And the school we wanted only takes in 26 non-ESL kids for one kindergarten class. | 18:59 |
| th1a | So it was probably about a 1 in 10 shot. | 18:59 |
| th1a | Let me know when you're ready to chat a bit. | 19:01 |
| replaceafill | i'm done | 19:02 |
| replaceafill | let me get my notes | 19:02 |
| th1a | Am I correct that we have some gradebook performance improvements in the can but not released? | 19:02 |
| replaceafill | th1a, correct | 19:02 |
| replaceafill | i've been working on my own branch, away from trunk | 19:03 |
| replaceafill | or branches | 19:03 |
| replaceafill | related to your last email, i was wondering what are we going to do | 19:03 |
| replaceafill | with this gradebook work + trunk | 19:04 |
| replaceafill | are 12.04 users keep using the "current" code? | 19:04 |
| th1a | Yes. | 19:04 |
| th1a | But we'll give the option of a testing PPA. | 19:04 |
| replaceafill | ah | 19:04 |
| th1a | At least, that's what I'm thinking. | 19:04 |
| replaceafill | we have the /dev one, right? | 19:05 |
| replaceafill | we could use that one | 19:05 |
| th1a | Whatever. | 19:05 |
| replaceafill | i'll sync my branches today with trunk | 19:05 |
| replaceafill | not merge | 19:05 |
| th1a | kk | 19:06 |
| replaceafill | we probably need more gradebook tests though | 19:06 |
| replaceafill | because of your comment about regressions | 19:06 |
| replaceafill | and surprises | 19:06 |
| th1a | Yes, but the point is that if you know you're testing something you know you can switch back. | 19:07 |
| th1a | The bar is lower for us. | 19:07 |
| th1a | Nonetheless: more tests=good. | 19:07 |
| replaceafill | :) | 19:08 |
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| th1a | replaceafill: dwelsh says thanks and things went well yesterday. | 20:44 |
| replaceafill | great! | 20:45 |
| replaceafill | glad to hear :) | 20:45 |
| replaceafill | i was wondering | 20:45 |
| replaceafill | about it | 20:45 |
| replaceafill | th1a, http://69.164.203.135:6660/schoolyears/2011-2012/2012-spring/sections/math_a_2012-spring_teacher001_000/projects/Project-2/gradebook | 21:52 |
| replaceafill | teacher001 | 21:52 |
| replaceafill | click on the 'V' arrow in the third nav | 21:52 |
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| th1a | replaceafill: What am I looking at there? | 22:38 |
| replaceafill | right side of the third nav | 22:38 |
| replaceafill | down poiting arrow | 22:38 |
| replaceafill | pointing* | 22:38 |
| th1a | Maybe put a box around it? Line? | 22:39 |
| replaceafill | to separate the two arrows? | 22:40 |
| th1a | Yeah. | 22:40 |
| replaceafill | reload | 22:41 |
| th1a | That might be enough. | 22:42 |
| replaceafill | kk | 22:43 |
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| th1a | OH, I remember now what else we need to discuss, replaceafill. | 22:52 |
| th1a | Did you see Vinny's latest report guidelines? | 22:53 |
| replaceafill | yes | 22:54 |
| replaceafill | let me get it | 22:54 |
| th1a | I think it is just missing a couple things we'll obviously need. | 22:55 |
| th1a | Like some margin sizes. | 22:55 |
| th1a | I think they look pretty good. | 22:55 |
| replaceafill | wow, the rotated text in the gradebook layout :) | 23:00 |
| th1a | I pretty much told him to do that. | 23:01 |
| replaceafill | i'd still like to see a landscape version though | 23:01 |
| replaceafill | (or maybe not...) | 23:01 |
| replaceafill | are we going to create web versions of the reports? | 23:02 |
| replaceafill | i mean, like the report card | 23:02 |
| th1a | Maybe. | 23:08 |
| th1a | That wasn't really the intent of this task but Vinny kept veering off into it. | 23:09 |
| th1a | Nice to have some references and ideas though. | 23:09 |
| replaceafill | yes | 23:09 |
| th1a | Do you see anything else in particular missing? | 23:09 |
| replaceafill | not really | 23:10 |
| th1a | kk | 23:10 |
| replaceafill | i remember he already sent the gray logo | 23:10 |
| th1a | So hopefully you can implement this next week. | 23:10 |
| replaceafill | maybe something will come up once we start it | 23:10 |
| replaceafill | yes | 23:10 |
| replaceafill | these are references, right? | 23:11 |
| replaceafill | we're going to style all the reports | 23:11 |
| replaceafill | "guidelines 1.0", nm :) | 23:12 |
| th1a | Yes. | 23:16 |
| th1a | That's the idea. | 23:16 |
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