IRC log of #schooltool for Tuesday, 2010-09-14

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replaceafillaelkner, u up?10:48
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th1amenesis:  Can you answer my email about package descriptions, please?17:04
menesisth1a: ok, soon17:07
th1aI don't need you to write real descriptions, just clarify what each does so I can write it.17:08
th1aAlso clarify the title/sub-title thing.17:08
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th1areplaceafill:  I need your invoice.17:28
replaceafillth1a, ah ok, will write it and send it17:28
replaceafillth1a, can i ask you something about report cards?17:28
th1aI have to pay my taxes tomorrow.  ;-)17:28
replaceafillin the Report Card Layout view, we have two fieldsets: Grid columns and Outline activities17:29
replaceafillam i right if i think grid columns are used for showing the table in the default report card and...17:30
replaceafilloutline activities to show details about the grades?17:30
* replaceafill should check the book...17:30
replaceafillah the book doesn't have those two fieldsets yet17:31
th1aWell, the outline is for when you'd prefer an outline view -- specifically if you have comments.17:32
th1aThat's why it was added.17:32
th1aBut if you generally would prefer your reportcard to look like this:17:32
th1a  Term 117:33
th1a    A17:33
replaceafillright, i saw activities that used the comment score system available for outline but not for columns17:33
th1aYou could do that too.17:33
th1aRight.  They don't fit, ofc.17:33
replaceafilli don't know how many users are using this, but one thing i noticed while i was testing it was: titles are cut and they become confusing17:34
replaceafillfor example17:34
replaceafillwhen you select the activity you want in the report card17:34
replaceafillI ended with serveral "2010 - ReportShe - ReportActivity" options in those dropdowns17:35
th1aTruncated in the dropdowns?17:35
replaceafillterm.title[:9], deployedWorksheet.title[:9], activity.title[:14]17:35
th1aWell, perhaps you should fix those bugs.17:36
replaceafilland i mean, the form is really narrow17:36
replaceafillmaking the form wider would give us some room17:36
th1aDo that.17:36
replaceafillth1a, one last issue on my mind about reports17:36
replaceafillwell, i better test it and ask later :)17:37
replaceafillit's just that cambodia uses different max values for the score systems17:37
replaceafillfor different sections17:37
th1aOK.  This is definitely an area that was written for one school and worked for them; and I didn't want to start arbitrarily17:38
th1aadding fairly random stuff.17:38
th1aI mean, I know there is a lot to be done, but decided to let people try it and give feedback.17:38
th1aSo definitely assume changes are needed.17:38
replaceafillgot it17:39
th1areplaceafill:  That is, it was designed fairly generally, but only really tested one place.17:42
th1aSo the foundation should be ok.17:43
th1aBut not surprising if details like you're coming across need love.17:43
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th1amenesis: ayt?18:45
menesisth1a: yes18:48
th1aSo... I'm looking at package descriptions in Synaptic, and the Ubuntu Software Center for, say GIMP or,18:48
th1aand they aren't the same.18:48
th1aSo perhaps something else is going on here in USC.18:49
th1aAnyhow... I'll explore that.18:51
th1aBut that's one source of my confusion.18:51
th1a software item information18:52
menesisI was just looking at the same page18:53
th1aWhat is app-install-data?18:53
menesisI do not use software center, so do not have expectations how packages should look there18:54
th1aI wasn't expecting it to be any different than Synaptic.18:56
menesisapp-install-data contains additional information (desktop files, icons) for all (even not installed) packages18:57
menesissynaptic does not use this information18:58
th1aThat might explain some of the mysteries of Ubuntu.18:58
menesiswe will want to add schooltool logo to app-install-data, but for libraries, it looks good to me as is.19:03
th1aCan we do that ourselves from our package?19:04
menesisif no additional data (from .desktop files) is available, the names/descriptions used are the same19:04
menesisdon't know yet19:04
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menesisschooltool shows up in software center only if it is installed, or is available from main/universe. so adding the icon is a goal for Natty.19:12
menesisdescriptions can be improved now19:12
th1aAh... ok.19:12
th1aJust worry about "traditional" descriptions.19:13
th1aIs there a cli interface for me to view the package data?19:13
th1aOr, perhaps I should say, what is it?19:14
* th1a tries 'man dpkg'19:15
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replaceafillth1a, "apt-cache show <package>"?19:17
* menesis bbl19:18
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th1amenesis: ayt?21:33
menesisth1a: maybe22:09
th1aYou're maybe here or that's the answer to my question?22:10
menesisI am near the computer but not paying attention22:15
menesisreplied your email22:15
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