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| pcardune | fsufitch: ayt? | 00:03 |
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| fsufitch | back | 00:09 |
| aelkner | pcardune: i'm trying to get a phone consult with Dave to discuss his vision of the fine points of operation of the new skin | 00:09 |
| fsufitch | i was away for a sec | 00:09 |
| pcardune | aelkner: best of luck | 00:09 |
| aelkner | I didn't know if you'd want to be involved at this late a stage in planning of that sort | 00:09 |
| pcardune | no, you can leave me out of it | 00:09 |
| pcardune | aelkner: did you actually manage to get ahold of him though? | 00:10 |
| aelkner | basically, i think it's important for our biggest customer and ui co-designer to sign off on some things | 00:10 |
| aelkner | not yet | 00:10 |
| pcardune | he is notoriously difficult to get a hold of | 00:10 |
| aelkner | i was hoping Lumiere could help set something up | 00:10 |
| pcardune | that is usually your best bet | 00:10 |
| aelkner | since he's in his office often | 00:10 |
| aelkner | would you want in on the meeting if/when we set it up? | 00:11 |
| aelkner | you could say no since you'd be dropping off only a couple of days after | 00:12 |
| aelkner | pcardune: it's up to you. | 00:12 |
| aelkner | Lumiere: ping | 00:13 |
| pcardune | no, but maybe you should ask Eldar | 00:13 |
| aelkner | eldar who? i haven't seen him for quite a while | 00:14 |
| aelkner | is he done for the year? | 00:14 |
| pcardune | no | 00:14 |
| aelkner | when we met in my gobby session to draw up that planning.txt, eldar put today as his last day of availability | 00:15 |
| Lumiere | here | 00:15 |
| aelkner | yet he hasn't been around all week | 00:15 |
| aelkner | so i don't know what that means | 00:15 |
| aelkner | Lumiere: what about that meeting? | 00:15 |
| Lumiere | uh | 00:16 |
| Lumiere | I have no idea of dwelsh's actual availablity | 00:16 |
| aelkner | I'd like to talk with Dave as he uses the new skin | 00:16 |
| Lumiere | I am working from home toda | 00:16 |
| Lumiere | and worked out of Herndon wed/thurs | 00:16 |
| Lumiere | fsufitch: commented out pdb stuff is bad to commit | 00:16 |
| aelkner | could you find out if/when he could meet? i'm available all weekend | 00:16 |
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| Lumiere | + def isAvailable(self): | 00:17 |
| Lumiere | + #import pdb; pdb.set_trace() | 00:17 |
| fsufitch | wow, that was a random snap at me | 00:17 |
| aelkner | that's my bad | 00:17 |
| Lumiere | oh | 00:17 |
| Lumiere | XD | 00:17 |
| fsufitch | Lumiere: it's always my fault isn't it! | 00:17 |
| Lumiere | fsufitch: I read commit messages | 00:17 |
| Lumiere | oops | 00:17 |
| aelkner | but i like your thinking blaming filip :) | 00:17 |
| Lumiere | misread the committer | 00:17 |
| aelkner | i'll fix it | 00:17 |
| Lumiere | *casts 301 redirect* | 00:17 |
| fsufitch | XD | 00:18 |
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| fsufitch | pcardune: so what's with the actions menu? | 00:23 |
| pcardune | ok, so did you checkout the schooltool action menu stuff? | 00:23 |
| fsufitch | uh yeah | 00:24 |
| fsufitch | it's called weird | 00:24 |
| pcardune | ? | 00:24 |
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| fsufitch | there are two almost identical zcml registrations | 00:24 |
| fsufitch | <viewletManager | 00:24 |
| fsufitch | name="schooltool.ActionsMenu" | 00:24 |
| fsufitch | permission="zope.Public" | 00:24 |
| fsufitch | class=".skin.ActionMenuViewletManager" | 00:24 |
| fsufitch | template="templates/actionsbar.pt" | 00:24 |
| fsufitch | /> | 00:24 |
| fsufitch | and another one substituting schooltool.Actions for schooltool.ActionsMenu | 00:25 |
| pcardune | I believe that one is for the actual drop down | 00:26 |
| pcardune | and the other is for the area where said drop down appears | 00:26 |
| pcardune | and one viewlet manager is rendered as a viewlet in the other viewlet manager | 00:26 |
| fsufitch | *blink* | 00:26 |
| pcardune | :) | 00:27 |
| pcardune | nested viewlet managers | 00:27 |
| pcardune | that's all | 00:27 |
| pcardune | we don't need nested viewlet managers though | 00:27 |
| fsufitch | ok | 00:28 |
| fsufitch | well, other than that, there's just the ActionMenuViewletManager class, which makes sense | 00:28 |
| aelkner | guys, could we keep this stuff in menu.py/menu/zcml | 00:29 |
| aelkner | menu.py/menu.zcml | 00:29 |
| pcardune | that was the plan | 00:29 |
| aelkner | you may have noticed i moved a lot of stuff in there out of places like global.zcml | 00:30 |
| aelkner | cool | 00:30 |
| aelkner | i won't be working in there for now, so we won't have conflicts | 00:30 |
| aelkner | just be sure to do an svn up before you start | 00:30 |
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| pcardune` | sweet... irc in emacs | 00:58 |
| aelkner | pcardune, fsufitch: if you already did an svn up, do it again | 00:58 |
| pcardune` | Now I can use my sweet emacs stuff with tags and say things like, You just have to use the IObjectCreatedEvent (and tab through the options instead of typing it all out :)) | 00:59 |
| aelkner | pcardune: i changed Context to SubTabMenu as we agreed | 00:59 |
| pcardune` | aelkner: ok good | 00:59 |
| pcardune` | aelkner: me an filip are kind of implementing what you and me had talked about | 00:59 |
| pcardune` | so we will want a base class | 01:00 |
| aelkner | i already did the isAvailable stuff | 01:00 |
| pcardune` | is it in there? | 01:00 |
| aelkner | so i hope that's not what you're referring to | 01:00 |
| fsufitch | where is it? | 01:00 |
| pcardune` | yes, we want to use that functionality | 01:00 |
| aelkner | for submenus not action menus | 01:00 |
| aelkner | you could copy it and change it to suit your needs | 01:01 |
| pcardune` | aelkner: we aren't going to need your viewlet manager | 01:01 |
| aelkner | no you want your own | 01:01 |
| pcardune` | well, ours is going to use a template to check isAvailable | 01:01 |
| pcardune` | aelkner: copying code is bad... we would enver copy code... better to abstract and subclass | 01:02 |
| aelkner | to much abstraction can be a bad thing | 01:02 |
| aelkner | try to remember that others need to be able to read code quickly | 01:02 |
| aelkner | so copying code is sometimes ok | 01:02 |
| pcardune` | I disagree | 01:02 |
| aelkner | sometimes it's clear that an abstraction can be made | 01:03 |
| aelkner | but to abstract just fopr the sake of it is too confusing | 01:03 |
| pcardune` | well I disagree, but don't have time to explain thuroughly my arguments | 01:03 |
| aelkner | me neither | 01:03 |
| aelkner | just copy stuff for now and we can abstract later | 01:04 |
| aelkner | and please keep it at the bottom of menu.py to make it easy to find | 01:04 |
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| fsufitch | lol | 01:07 |
| fsufitch | i should just message pcardune_xchat to annoy people | 01:08 |
| fsufitch | mostly you :-P | 01:08 |
| aelkner | pcardune: could you send me the Data.fs file you got from Dave? | 01:20 |
| pcardune_xchat | no | 01:20 |
| pcardune_xchat | it is 300 mb | 01:20 |
| pcardune_xchat | ask Lumiere | 01:20 |
| pcardune_xchat | he has it on some server | 01:20 |
| pcardune_xchat | available for download | 01:20 |
| pcardune_xchat | somewhere | 01:20 |
| pcardune_xchat | already | 01:20 |
| aelkner | Lumiere: ping | 01:20 |
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| Lumiere | aelkner: I don't have access to it | 01:29 |
| Lumiere | but if something is up with it | 01:29 |
| Lumiere | dwelsh will see it | 01:29 |
| aelkner | Lumiere: i need a real Data.fs file. Can you supply me with one | 01:30 |
| Lumiere | lemme see | 01:36 |
| Lumiere | gimme 5 minutes | 01:36 |
| aelkner | ok | 01:39 |
| Lumiere | aelkner: do you have an account on your server | 01:43 |
| Lumiere | that I can scp dump this thing | 01:43 |
| aelkner | i can create one for you | 01:44 |
| aelkner | what userid/password would you like | 01:44 |
| Lumiere | jstraw and then a fruit | 01:44 |
| aelkner | ok | 01:44 |
| Lumiere | and once I drop the file in | 01:44 |
| Lumiere | change it | 01:44 |
| aelkner | i created the account. could you please ssh in there and change the password to something you would use | 01:46 |
| Lumiere | 4min | 01:46 |
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| Lumiere | 28% 86MB 1.3MB/s 02:49 ETA | 01:47 |
| pcardune | that is fast | 01:50 |
| Lumiere | I did it off acc.candoskills.org | 01:51 |
| aelkner | Lumiere: please don't forget to change your password on my machine. I don't want any holes there. | 01:53 |
| Lumiere | dun | 01:54 |
| aelkner | thanks much | 01:55 |
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| aelkner | pcardune: when I put dwelsh's Data.fs file in my cando instance and started cando it evelved as i would expect | 03:13 |
| aelkner | but it fails when i login as manager | 03:13 |
| aelkner | OError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pytz/zoneinfo/US/Eastern' | 03:14 |
| aelkner | /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pytz/zoneinfo exists, but it's empty | 03:16 |
| aelkner | Lumiere: are you there? | 03:16 |
| Lumiere | yea | 03:16 |
| aelkner | have you seen this before? | 03:16 |
| Lumiere | excuse me | 03:16 |
| Lumiere | while I go curse at python-tz | 03:16 |
| Lumiere | AGAIN | 03:16 |
| Lumiere | </3 | 03:16 |
| aelkner | so you HAVE | 03:16 |
| Lumiere | uh | 03:17 |
| Lumiere | I have seen more then enough python-tz errors | 03:17 |
| Lumiere | pcardune: may remember how to get rid of this | 03:17 |
| aelkner | could you look at your /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/pytz/zoneinfo to see if it's empty? | 03:18 |
| aelkner | Lumiere: if it isn't, could you send me a tarball of its contents | 03:19 |
| Lumiere | uh I think | 03:24 |
| Lumiere | I removed the python-tz package | 03:24 |
| Lumiere | from the system | 03:24 |
| Lumiere | and let it install an egg | 03:24 |
| aelkner | hmm | 03:25 |
| aelkner | Lumiere: so you suggest i sudo apt-get remove python-tz and run make? | 03:26 |
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| Lumiere | aelkner: make clean and make | 03:32 |
| aelkner | i didn't do the make clean, but it still pulled in the new egg | 03:35 |
| aelkner | it works now, thanks | 03:35 |
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| Lumiere | mattva01: how are packages coming | 20:07 |
| mattva01 | oh, good , as in like 95% done ( Last week was really hectic) | 20:08 |
| mattva01 | will you be around later | 20:09 |
| mattva01 | ? | 20:09 |
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| Mattva01 | bleh MIRC | 20:43 |
| fsufitch | Lumiere: do u know where eldar is? | 22:28 |
| Lumiere | eldar is probably heading to school | 22:29 |
| fsufitch | ?? | 22:31 |
| Lumiere | uni | 22:32 |
| Lumiere | UVA starts like this weekend or soon after | 22:32 |
| fsufitch | ooooooh | 22:32 |
| fsufitch | i forgot he's going to college | 22:33 |
| Lumiere | yea | 22:36 |
| Lumiere | what do you need | 22:36 |
| fsufitch | second-hand question from my brother | 22:37 |
| Lumiere | ic | 22:37 |
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