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| AVN` | his went to line 124 when he ran the tests | 00:19 |
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| jhancock | jelkner: what is the website that I should be working on again? | 19:51 |
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| wjohnsto`linux | I cannot build the current revision of cando | 19:59 |
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| Lumiere | hi th1a | 20:18 |
| th1a | Hi Lumiere. | 20:18 |
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| Lumiere | ... /swt | 20:20 |
| fsufitch | i lost the game | 20:22 |
| eldar | fsufitch: what are you working on? | 20:22 |
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| fsufitch | the actions menu... | 20:23 |
| fsufitch | i was waiting for you to be available so i could ask you about where i can find an implementation i can parrot | 20:23 |
| eldar | ok | 20:24 |
| eldar | are you done with the crumbs? | 20:24 |
| eldar | as in them not linking to non-existing go pages? | 20:24 |
| fsufitch | yes | 20:25 |
| eldar | good job | 20:25 |
| fsufitch | ^_^ | 20:25 |
| eldar | look at the skin module under cando | 20:25 |
| eldar | for the actions menu thing | 20:25 |
| fsufitch | ok... | 20:26 |
| fsufitch | i did find it but it's really weird | 20:26 |
| fsufitch | like, really weird | 20:26 |
| eldar | what do you mean? | 20:26 |
| fsufitch | like, it randomly does: | 20:27 |
| fsufitch | breadcrumb = zapi.getMultiAdapter((self.context, self.request), | 20:27 |
| fsufitch | IBreadcrumbInfo) | 20:27 |
| fsufitch | and IBreadcrumbInfo is never imported or anytthing | 20:27 |
| eldar | all you need for actions bar | 20:28 |
| eldar | is the actionsbar viewlet | 20:28 |
| eldar | look at cando/skin/configure.zcml lines 18 to 31 | 20:29 |
| fsufitch | yea, that code is part of the viewlet | 20:29 |
| eldar | you don't need the title part | 20:31 |
| eldar | so don't worry about it | 20:31 |
| eldar | don't define that function in your viewlet | 20:31 |
| fsufitch | ok... | 20:31 |
| fsufitch | ok... | 20:31 |
| eldar | you don't sound happy, what's wrong? | 20:31 |
| fsufitch | so i just need to rewrite the viewlet? | 20:31 |
| fsufitch | iono, i just don't know what i'm supposed to be doing | 20:31 |
| Lumiere | he's looking forward to more css | 20:31 |
| Lumiere | ^^ | 20:31 |
| fsufitch | and since when do u care if i'm happy or not >_> | 20:31 |
| Lumiere | </sarcasm> | 20:32 |
| fsufitch | <tal:sarcasm> | 20:32 |
| eldar | that question sounds like it's calling for more harshness | 20:32 |
| fsufitch | <_< | 20:32 |
| fsufitch | i'll be quiet | 20:32 |
| eldar | fsufitch: well, for starters copy those 2 viewlets | 20:33 |
| eldar | to see if it works | 20:33 |
| eldar | and then you can go from there based on the errors | 20:34 |
| fsufitch | ew, debugging | 20:34 |
| fsufitch | meh | 20:34 |
| fsufitch | i'll get to it | 20:35 |
| wjohnsto`windows | eldar: what is the URI for student? | 20:35 |
| eldar | why do you need that? | 20:35 |
| wjohnsto`windows | for the courses | 20:36 |
| eldar | oh for the relationships in the section thing | 20:36 |
| wjohnsto`windows | yea | 20:36 |
| wjohnsto`windows | we couldn't find it in relationships | 20:36 |
| eldar | it's just URIStudent | 20:37 |
| fsufitch | eldar, just a little trivia question | 20:37 |
| eldar | it's defined in | 20:38 |
| fsufitch | how efficient is zope data indexing? | 20:38 |
| eldar | basicperson/person.py | 20:38 |
| fsufitch | scuse the interruption | 20:38 |
| eldar | fsufitch: very | 20:38 |
| eldar | why? | 20:38 |
| fsufitch | because i'm thinking of making an application that will store an exponentially-growing number of objects | 20:38 |
| eldar | the indexing is written in c for maximum speed | 20:38 |
| fsufitch | and i need to be able to search through them | 20:39 |
| eldar | yeah, zope indexing is top notch | 20:39 |
| fsufitch | kewl | 20:39 |
| fsufitch | my dad was trying to get me to use mySQL | 20:39 |
| fsufitch | he's sort of doubtful of how efficient a new open-source web app server can be | 20:40 |
| wjohnsto`windows | thanks eldar | 20:40 |
| Lumiere | nothing new about zope | 20:41 |
| eldar | fsufitch: zope's indexing doesn't lose to mysql's | 20:41 |
| fsufitch | w00t | 20:41 |
| eldar | also, mysql isn't exactly the fastest RDBM | 20:41 |
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| fsufitch | w00t, u just made my day :) | 20:42 |
| eldar | postgresql as far as i know is the best | 20:42 |
| * fsufitch saves conversation log | 20:42 | |
| Lumiere | http://source.schooltool.org/irclogs/ ... | 20:42 |
| fsufitch | eldar, is there really any point to this method: ? | 20:51 |
| fsufitch | def orderedViewletManagerUpdate(self): | 20:51 |
| fsufitch | OrderedViewletManager.update(self) | 20:51 |
| eldar | fsufitch: your father has doubts about the quality of open source software? | 20:51 |
| fsufitch | yes, he does | 20:51 |
| fsufitch | which is why he frowned at me when i installed ubuntu | 20:51 |
| fsufitch | ((and accidentally wiped windows in the process)) | 20:51 |
| eldar | your father, needs to be reminded, that apache drives 90% of web servers | 20:52 |
| fsufitch | >_> | 20:52 |
| eldar | and over half of those servers running apache are unix based | 20:52 |
| fsufitch | yeah, he knows, but that's because unix and apache are major big open-source projects | 20:52 |
| fsufitch | even his runs those two | 20:52 |
| eldar | lol, ubuntu has more money than apache could ever dream of | 20:53 |
| fsufitch | but in his eyes zope is just this little thing that nobody but a couple of programmers know about | 20:53 |
| fsufitch | <.< | 20:53 |
| eldar | zope.org has a list of organizations using zope | 20:53 |
| eldar | i think nasa, and some major ones use it | 20:54 |
| fsufitch | yeah, there | 20:54 |
| fsufitch | oops | 20:54 |
| eldar | the main reason he thinks that, is because zope isn't really a script kiddy framework, so it's not as widely known to the average public | 20:54 |
| fsufitch | there's NATO, NASA and the US Navy | 20:54 |
| eldar | but zope gets crazy gov-t and big corporation contracts | 20:55 |
| fsufitch | *cough* schooltool *cough* | 20:55 |
| fsufitch | <_< | 20:55 |
| eldar | we should pm | 20:55 |
| fsufitch | yeah | 20:56 |
| Lumiere | AARP uses it | 20:57 |
| Lumiere | and... zope corp has half a dozen major newspapers | 20:57 |
| AVN` | did anyone solve IBeforeObjectAssigned event? | 20:58 |
| fsufitch | NotYetException. | 20:58 |
| fsufitch | :-P | 20:58 |
| wjohnsto`linux | AVN` no | 20:59 |
| wjohnsto`linux | I even rebuilt cando to no avail | 20:59 |
| AVN` | we really need to fix that, | 21:00 |
| wjohnsto`linux | mhm | 21:00 |
| AVN` | what branch are you using? | 21:01 |
| wjohnsto`linux | http://svn.schooltool.org/cando/trunk/ | 21:02 |
| wjohnsto`linux | both trunk and newskin get the same error | 21:02 |
| AVN` | why isn't there an eggs directory in SVN? | 21:04 |
| fsufitch | eldar, what layer do i put in the registration, cuz there isn't an ICanDoLayer in skin.py | 21:06 |
| fsufitch | or should i put it in | 21:06 |
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| fsufitch | eldar, ping? | 21:12 |
| eldar | INewCanDoSkinLayer | 21:12 |
| eldar | look at newskin's __init__.py | 21:12 |
| eldar | for the exact name | 21:12 |
| fsufitch | ok | 21:12 |
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| eldar | pcardune: hi | 21:14 |
| fsufitch | pcardune, welcome | 21:15 |
| pcardune | hi fsufitch | 21:15 |
| fsufitch | eldar, the code doesn't seem to crash when i just stick it in, but it doesn't show up either | 21:16 |
| fsufitch | don't i need to include somewhere that it needs to be displayed? | 21:16 |
| eldar | you need to include the template | 21:17 |
| eldar | and the whole configuration stuff | 21:17 |
| eldar | did you do that? | 21:17 |
| eldar | just stick the viewlet classes isn't going to cut it | 21:17 |
| fsufitch | yeah, i put the stuff in menu.zcml | 21:18 |
| fsufitch | but i need to somehow tell it to show up... | 21:19 |
| fsufitch | waaaait | 21:19 |
| fsufitch | is it <tal:block content="structure provider:ActionsBar"/> | 21:20 |
| eldar | yea | 21:20 |
| fsufitch | or something along those lines | 21:20 |
| eldar | i told you | 21:20 |
| eldar | template stuff | 21:20 |
| eldar | look at the cando/skin's | 21:20 |
| eldar | templates | 21:20 |
| eldar | and see where it's supposed to be put in | 21:20 |
| eldar | just do a search | 21:20 |
| fsufitch | ok... | 21:20 |
| fsufitch | eldar, wtf is self.target? | 21:26 |
| fsufitch | cuz it's never defined | 21:27 |
| eldar | lol, that is something defined by the viewlet that is being subclassed | 21:27 |
| fsufitch | yet it works in the old skin and not the new one | 21:27 |
| fsufitch | uh | 21:27 |
| AVN` | bnguyen, did you fix the IBeforeObject Assigned error? | 21:27 |
| fsufitch | so OrderedViewletManager? | 21:27 |
| bnguyen | AVN', no | 21:27 |
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| bnguyen | eldar: when I try to view sections as an instructor, I get "A system error occurred" | 21:30 |
| fsufitch | bnguyen, did u check the terminal in which zope is running to see _what_ error occurred? | 21:31 |
| eldar | bnguyen: traceback? | 21:32 |
| bnguyen | ah nevermind, i found the problem | 21:32 |
| fsufitch | eldar, the menu shows up, but all of its javascript and display is broken | 21:35 |
| fsufitch | it just looks funn | 21:35 |
| fsufitch | *funny | 21:35 |
| fsufitch | it looks like i just broke newskin | 21:35 |
| eldar | make it not javascript | 21:37 |
| eldar | there is a template for the actions bar | 21:38 |
| fsufitch | yea, i know | 21:38 |
| fsufitch | wait, it uses no javascript | 21:38 |
| fsufitch | then all if its styling is broken :-P | 21:39 |
| eldar | yeah | 21:39 |
| eldar | you know what to do | 21:40 |
| fsufitch | yeh, CSS junk! | 21:40 |
| fsufitch | -.- | 21:40 |
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| rjelliso | anyone here installed cando anywhere fairly recently? | 21:49 |
| Lumiere | installed as in? | 21:49 |
| rjelliso | keep trying to reinstall it, but every time I run make, it hangs. | 21:49 |
| Lumiere | trunk? | 21:49 |
| AVN` | I have | 21:49 |
| rjelliso | yeah, trunk. Following the instructions at the schooltool.org installation guide | 21:50 |
| th1a | jelkner: Are you getting my message on the private channel? | 21:51 |
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| eldar | Preetam: schooltool/note/configure.zcml line 126 | 21:55 |
| Preetam | ok, thanks | 21:56 |
| fsufitch | eldar, there is something smelly in the template that's already there | 22:01 |
| fsufitch | <td tal:repeat="viewlet options/viewlets" | 22:01 |
| fsufitch | tal:content="structure viewlet/render" /> | 22:01 |
| fsufitch | what would that do? | 22:01 |
| fsufitch | all that I see is that it links to the calendar | 22:01 |
| fsufitch | which cando shouldnt do | 22:01 |
| fsufitch | haha, which cando can't do | 22:01 |
| fsufitch | XD | 22:01 |
| eldar | that is not the actions bar | 22:02 |
| fsufitch | it comes along with the actions bar and the nav bar | 22:03 |
| fsufitch | i deleted the nav bar... | 22:03 |
| fsufitch | so i kill that too | 22:03 |
| AVN` | yes, I can't even compile newskin now | 22:03 |
| eldar | fsufitch: calendar is attached to the actions bar? | 22:04 |
| AVN` | its a problem with z3c breadcrumb | 22:04 |
| fsufitch | no, the actions bar is one of three supposed bars coming in actionsbar.pt | 22:04 |
| fsufitch | one is nav, one is actions and one is this weird thing | 22:04 |
| AVN` | pcardune, the newskin svn doesn't compile | 22:04 |
| pcardune | AVN`: it does for me | 22:05 |
| fsufitch | gr, this template needs complete rewriting | 22:05 |
| fsufitch | it's a table with 1 row that has 1 cell in it that has 1 div in it that has a list in it | 22:05 |
| fsufitch | i think it can be simplified | 22:05 |
| eldar | you added the actions bar thing to view_macros.pt, right? | 22:05 |
| fsufitch | uh, i added it to template.pt | 22:06 |
| fsufitch | what's the big difference between them? | 22:06 |
| fsufitch | they look the same | 22:06 |
| eldar | huh? | 22:06 |
| eldar | we already have the view_macros.pt in our directory | 22:06 |
| eldar | right? | 22:06 |
| fsufitch | yes | 22:06 |
| eldar | and we already had template.pt? | 22:06 |
| fsufitch | yes | 22:07 |
| fsufitch | there's both | 22:07 |
| fsufitch | am i doing something stupid? | 22:07 |
| eldar | alright | 22:08 |
| eldar | view_macros.pt | 22:08 |
| eldar | is the thing needed for the schooltool layerability | 22:08 |
| eldar | i know that's not a word | 22:08 |
| eldar | regardless, all schooltool's ui stuff | 22:08 |
| fsufitch | idc if it's not a word | 22:08 |
| eldar | should be put there | 22:08 |
| fsufitch | well then what's template.pt? | 22:08 |
| eldar | so actions bar goes into view_macros.pt | 22:08 |
| eldar | template.pt is strictly newskin | 22:08 |
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| eldar | it knows nothing about schooltool layer | 22:09 |
| wjohnsto`windows | how come when I checkout cando it comes with the 73183 eggs | 22:09 |
| fsufitch | or it's not supposed to know anything | 22:09 |
| wjohnsto`windows | not the updated eggs | 22:09 |
| wjohnsto`windows | but it still says "revision 1079" | 22:09 |
| wjohnsto`windows | that's why I'm getting the 'IBeforeAssignedObjectEvent' error | 22:10 |
| eldar | "make update" | 22:10 |
| eldar | in the root of your cando | 22:10 |
| wjohnsto`windows | I tried | 22:10 |
| Lumiere | try make clean then make | 22:10 |
| wjohnsto`windows | ok | 22:11 |
| wjohnsto`windows | well now it says the eggs directory doesn't exist so it won't do anything | 22:11 |
| wjohnsto`windows | then I create it and nothing happens | 22:12 |
| Lumiere | run make | 22:12 |
| Lumiere | not make updte | 22:12 |
| Lumiere | ............... | 22:12 |
| wjohnsto`windows | oh wait, second try worked | 22:12 |
| * Lumiere feels like we've wasted $100k on someone's education <_< | 22:12 | |
| Lumiere | </sarcastic jokes> | 22:13 |
| wjohnsto`windows | now I'm going to get those same errors with z3c.breadcrumb and orther things | 22:13 |
| wjohnsto`windows | **other | 22:13 |
| fsufitch | eldar, so i put it in view_macros.pt | 22:13 |
| fsufitch | and it doesn't show up at all | 22:13 |
| fsufitch | holy crap nvm | 22:14 |
| fsufitch | eldar, do you mind if i just completely rewrite the template? | 22:14 |
| AVN` | yeah, I still am getting the Ibeforeobject... error | 22:20 |
| wjohnsto`windows | hey | 22:20 |
| wjohnsto`windows | do me a favor | 22:20 |
| wjohnsto`windows | check your eggs | 22:20 |
| wjohnsto`windows | and tell me whether they are 73183 | 22:20 |
| wjohnsto`windows | or 77.. something | 22:20 |
| AVN` | sorry, I can't count them before they hatch | 22:20 |
| wjohnsto`windows | damn | 22:20 |
| AVN` | 73 | 22:20 |
| wjohnsto`windows | yeah | 22:20 |
| AVN` | and 74 | 22:20 |
| wjohnsto`windows | that's the reason we're getting the error | 22:20 |
| AVN` | not all the same version numver | 22:21 |
| wjohnsto`windows | those are the old eggs | 22:21 |
| AVN` | how do we get the new ones? | 22:21 |
| wjohnsto`windows | try make update | 22:21 |
| wjohnsto`windows | and if that doesn't work | 22:21 |
| wjohnsto`windows | make clean, make | 22:21 |
| wjohnsto`windows | except I did that | 22:22 |
| wjohnsto`windows | and got the same 73 eggs | 22:22 |
| AVN` | uh | 22:23 |
| AVN` | sudo make clean and sudo make update | 22:23 |
| AVN` | they deleted all my eggs | 22:23 |
| wjohnsto`windows | yeah | 22:23 |
| wjohnsto`windows | just type make | 22:23 |
| wjohnsto`windows | or mkdir eggs then make update... does the same thign | 22:23 |
| wjohnsto`windows | **thing | 22:23 |
| AVN` | yeah, thats what i did | 22:24 |
| wjohnsto`windows | it should delete your eggs | 22:24 |
| wjohnsto`windows | you have to get rid of them and then try to get the new ones | 22:24 |
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| wjohnsto`windows | but it won't work anyway | 22:24 |
| wjohnsto`windows | at least mine didn't | 22:24 |
| AVN` | Iit hung | 22:27 |
| wjohnsto`windows | what? | 22:27 |
| AVN` | it stopped | 22:30 |
| AVN` | at this line | 22:30 |
| AVN` | Searching for z3c.breadcrumb | 22:30 |
| AVN` | Reading http://www.python.org/pypi/z3c.breadcrumb/ | 22:30 |
| Lumiere | eldar | 22:32 |
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| eldar | Lumiere: what's up? | 22:34 |
| wjohnsto`windows | AVN` yea | 22:35 |
| wjohnsto`windows | it does that all the time | 22:35 |
| Lumiere | see above | 22:35 |
| wjohnsto`windows | just remake | 22:35 |
| wjohnsto`windows | right now I'm having brittney make a new account on her computer in my name, checkout cando, make, then send me the eggs :S | 22:36 |
| wjohnsto`windows | don't know anything else to do | 22:36 |
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| AVN` | we could bug eldar about it | 22:38 |
| eldar | what's the problem? cando doesn't start? | 22:38 |
| AVN` | exactly | 22:38 |
| wjohnsto`windows | yeah | 22:38 |
| wjohnsto`windows | because the eggs are not update | 22:38 |
| eldar | make update doesn't update them? | 22:38 |
| wjohnsto`windows | and when we try and update the eggs | 22:38 |
| wjohnsto`windows | they don't update | 22:38 |
| eldar | i see | 22:38 |
| eldar | remove the eggs folder | 22:38 |
| wjohnsto`windows | and make clean, make doesn't either | 22:38 |
| eldar | and run make update | 22:38 |
| wjohnsto`windows | I tried that | 22:39 |
| wjohnsto`windows | and the same old version of eggs appeared again | 22:39 |
| eldar | did you try a fresh checkout? | 22:39 |
| wjohnsto`windows | yeah | 22:39 |
| wjohnsto`windows | I did that yesterday | 22:39 |
| wjohnsto`windows | and then it took me hours to make | 22:39 |
| wjohnsto`windows | because I kept getting errors | 22:39 |
| wjohnsto`windows | with some z3c.breadcrumb | 22:40 |
| wjohnsto`windows | then cheetah | 22:40 |
| AVN` | yeah, it hangs at breadcrumb | 22:40 |
| wjohnsto`windows | but finally it worked | 22:40 |
| wjohnsto`windows | oh and docutils | 22:40 |
| wjohnsto`windows | or doctils | 22:40 |
| wjohnsto`windows | it holds at that too | 22:40 |
| wjohnsto`windows | but finally I got it to make this morning (if you just keep typing make eventually it works), but it had the old eggs | 22:40 |
| wjohnsto`windows | the eggs are pretty much rotten by now | 22:41 |
| wjohnsto`windows | they smell really bad | 22:41 |
| Preetam | eldar: do I need to include both the unit tests and the functional tests? | 22:41 |
| eldar | Preetam: just functional | 22:42 |
| Preetam | eldar: ok | 22:43 |
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| eldar | well it can't download the stupid egg | 22:44 |
| eldar | because it hasn't been hatched! | 22:44 |
| wjohnsto`windows | sit on them eggs then eldar | 22:45 |
| eldar | ugh | 22:45 |
| eldar | well, i think wherever it is stored | 22:45 |
| eldar | it is inaccessible | 22:45 |
| eldar | so ... | 22:45 |
| eldar | what i am going to do | 22:45 |
| eldar | is email the egg | 22:45 |
| eldar | to the list | 22:45 |
| eldar | the one that works for me at least | 22:45 |
| wjohnsto`windows | wait | 22:45 |
| wjohnsto`windows | well | 22:45 |
| wjohnsto`windows | brittney and I tried that yesterday | 22:45 |
| eldar | and? | 22:45 |
| wjohnsto`windows | and then all the eggs came with her path in it | 22:45 |
| wjohnsto`windows | it was nasty | 22:45 |
| eldar | aha | 22:46 |
| eldar | well then | 22:46 |
| eldar | go download the egg manually | 22:46 |
| eldar | and install it into eggs directory manually | 22:46 |
| eldar | the makefile should give you hints on how to do that | 22:46 |
| wjohnsto`windows | ok | 22:46 |
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| pcardune | eldar: I was going to say just unit tests | 22:52 |
| pcardune | it's called API doc for a reason :) | 22:52 |
| Lumiere | make it booooooth | 22:52 |
| Lumiere | ! | 22:52 |
| Lumiere | pcardune: global ids? | 22:52 |
| t3h_sood | YES | 22:53 |
| t3h_sood | YES YES YES!!! pcardune -> global-ids!!! | 22:53 |
| t3h_sood | What was the name of the zope3 irc channel? | 22:54 |
| eldar | pcardune: sorry wasn't thinking straight >.< | 22:54 |
| pcardune | Lumiere: last time we were about to do that you disappeared | 22:54 |
| Lumiere | zop3-dev | 22:54 |
| t3h_sood | oye | 22:54 |
| Lumiere | yea sucks.... | 22:54 |
| t3h_sood | wha? | 22:54 |
| Lumiere | +e | 22:54 |
| t3h_sood | oye | 22:54 |
| Lumiere | now good? | 22:54 |
| pcardune | Lumiere: 15 minutes | 22:55 |
| fsufitch | pcardune, how do i dynamically change css using javascript? | 22:56 |
| fsufitch | i was referenced to you by jason | 22:56 |
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| fsufitch | w8 nvm i found it | 22:56 |
| Lumiere | rofl? | 22:57 |
| Preetam | eldar: Ok, virginia is done, skilldriver needs to be done also? | 22:57 |
| t3h_sood | fsufitch: don't do it!!!!! | 22:57 |
| fsufitch | stfu? | 22:57 |
| t3h_sood | >_< | 22:57 |
| fsufitch | what?! | 22:57 |
| fsufitch | t3h_sood, how about you ltg | 22:57 |
| eldar | Preetam: yeah, remember which ones i told you to do for starters? | 22:57 |
| Lumiere | Preetam: everything | 22:57 |
| Lumiere | fsufitch: you ltg too | 22:58 |
| AVN` | wjohnsto how did manual egg getting work? | 22:58 |
| wjohnsto | it didn't | 22:58 |
| wjohnsto | the makefile is too confusing | 22:58 |
| eldar | Preetam: no, I said: virginia, skilldriver, and curriculum | 22:58 |
| wjohnsto | I can't actually find where the eggs are | 22:58 |
| Preetam | eldar: ok | 22:58 |
| AVN` | eldar, we need more help | 22:59 |
| wjohnsto | I think I know the problem | 22:59 |
| fsufitch | Lumiere, i already ltg, hence me telling masood to ltg | 23:00 |
| eldar | AVN`: what is it? | 23:01 |
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| eldar | i think you all just ltg | 23:09 |
| fsufitch | it's not been half an hour, n00b | 23:09 |
| pcardune | Lumiere: global ids? | 23:09 |
| Masood_ | who loses when all has already been lost prior to the amount of time required between losing the game | 23:10 |
| Lumiere | yes | 23:10 |
| Lumiere | lets | 23:11 |
| pcardune | So, I guess I'll just do this in trunk | 23:11 |
| Lumiere | probably good | 23:11 |
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| eldar | pcardune: are you done with your little tweaks to newskin in your branch? | 23:12 |
| t3h_sood | I HAVE GHOSTED MYSELF BIZNATCHES!!! | 23:12 |
| t3h_sood | >_< sorry | 23:12 |
| eldar | because i think we should merge the 2 before it becomes too messy to do so | 23:12 |
| pcardune | eldar: umm, I think you have all of them already | 23:12 |
| pcardune | eldar: then you will have to merge my entire evidence linking branch | 23:13 |
| pcardune | eldar: which I think at this point could be done | 23:13 |
| Lumiere | t3h_sood: th1a gah | 23:14 |
| t3h_sood | ...???? | 23:14 |
| pcardune | Lumiere: so, i'm looking at https://svn.schooltool.org/trac/cando/wiki/CompetencyGlobalIdSystem | 23:14 |
| fsufitch | pcardune, Lumiere's irc is broken | 23:15 |
| pcardune | ok | 23:15 |
| t3h_sood | It's very broken | 23:15 |
| t3h_sood | like, he's taking drastic measures | 23:15 |
| fsufitch | he's pulling out his lan cable | 23:15 |
| t3h_sood | Like, there are gargantuan wires | 23:15 |
| t3h_sood | coming out of his bag | 23:15 |
| t3h_sood | And they look vicious... | 23:15 |
| t3h_sood | Like, they could eat a whole man with their 8 ethernet metallic contacts... | 23:16 |
| Lumiere | ~[6~[6~[6~aiofjaoijfa;oifjaiofj/quick | 23:16 |
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| pcardune | Lumiere: are you back? | 23:17 |
| t3h_sood | dah, he is | 23:18 |
| pcardune | eldar: you know what... I'm thinking we might want to merge pcardune-edvidence-linking and newskin intro trunk | 23:18 |
| pcardune | I think they are far enough along at this point | 23:19 |
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| Lumiere | ok | 23:19 |
| Lumiere | back now | 23:19 |
| Lumiere | my net | 23:19 |
| Lumiere | died | 23:19 |
| t3h_sood | \b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b\b I will work on global-ids | 23:20 |
| t3h_sood | Dam! you had to speak! | 23:20 |
| t3h_sood | and ruin the number of backspaces! | 23:20 |
| Lumiere | t3h_sood: http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e5/Skorp88/EmoStudent/CrayolaEmo.jpg | 23:20 |
| Lumiere | pcardune: ready now | 23:20 |
| * fsufitch smacks t3h_sood | 23:20 | |
| pcardune | Lumiere: so, I just told eldar that I think we might want to merge my evidence-linking branch and newskin into trunk | 23:21 |
| t3h_sood | The sad thing is... | 23:21 |
| t3h_sood | Lumiere: I think those actually fit my mood for at least 1 hour of every day. | 23:22 |
| t3h_sood | Call it the 'depresso-anxiety-disorder hour' | 23:22 |
| eldar | t3h_sood: get to work | 23:22 |
| Lumiere | pcardune: I agree | 23:22 |
| Lumiere | want me to do it now | 23:22 |
| Lumiere | and see how much breaks? | 23:23 |
| pcardune | Lumiere: no | 23:23 |
| t3h_sood | eldar: Getting back to work >_< lawls | 23:23 |
| pcardune | I think that would be better to do tomorrow | 23:23 |
| eldar | well, first just pcardune's branch | 23:23 |
| Lumiere | ok | 23:23 |
| pcardune | when there aren't tons of people working on it | 23:23 |
| eldar | if it's gonna be done | 23:23 |
| t3h_sood | :-) :-) lawls lawls lawls :-) :-) | 23:23 |
| Lumiere | I'll try it on a fresh trunk checkout | 23:23 |
| eldar | do we have a mod in this channel? | 23:23 |
| pcardune | no | 23:23 |
| Lumiere | I wish | 23:23 |
| Lumiere | only th1a | 23:24 |
| Lumiere | I think | 23:24 |
| pcardune | Lumiere: so I'm going to do the global id changes in my trunk at the moment | 23:24 |
| pcardune | i mean, my branch | 23:24 |
| Lumiere | ok | 23:24 |
| eldar | because we could use some gagging privileges right now | 23:24 |
| Lumiere | that's good | 23:24 |
| pcardune | and it will be in trunk tomorrow | 23:24 |
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| Lumiere | sounds good | 23:24 |
| pcardune | so, let's look at: http://namespace.schooltool.org/comp/<country code>/<sub-section code>/<controlling body>/<unique token for this 'folder'> | 23:25 |
| pcardune | I think it would be better to have: | 23:25 |
| Lumiere | it's still editable till we release | 23:26 |
| pcardune | http://name.of.your.controlling.body.org/onecompgroup/anothercompgroup/singlecomp | 23:26 |
| AVN` | pcardune, could you try checking out a non-developer version of the newskin branch? | 23:26 |
| Lumiere | oO | 23:27 |
| pcardune | AVN`: yes, i could | 23:27 |
| AVN` | because we have only got the IBeforeObject error on non-developer checkouts | 23:27 |
| Lumiere | pcardune: that could work | 23:27 |
| Lumiere | anot? | 23:27 |
| AVN` | and bnguyen tried checking out a developer copy, and it worked fine, | 23:28 |
| AVN` | so it could be that problem | 23:28 |
| pcardune | AVN`: I'm doing the checkout now | 23:29 |
| pcardune | Lumiere: "anot?"? | 23:29 |
| pcardune | AVN`: works for me out of the box | 23:35 |
| AVN` | what could the problem be then? | 23:35 |
| Lumiere | what is anot | 23:38 |
| Lumiere | oh | 23:38 |
| Lumiere | odd | 23:38 |
| Lumiere | my irc client wasn't showing that | 23:39 |
| Lumiere | do we really want to define comp groups | 23:39 |
| Lumiere | as part of a global ID | 23:39 |
| Lumiere | cause people can create other comp groups | 23:39 |
| Lumiere | but I think namespace.cteresource.org/token | 23:39 |
| Lumiere | would be good | 23:39 |
| Preetam_ | eldar: Alright, done with those three. | 23:40 |
| pcardune | Lumiere: well you could do it that way if you wanted to as well | 23:41 |
| eldar | Preetam_: alright, do journal, locales | 23:41 |
| Preetam_ | eldar: alrighty | 23:41 |
| Lumiere | the question is more that if a teacher changes the comp groups | 23:42 |
| pcardune | i mean, just because http://namespace.cteresource.org/compgroup/singlecomp might be the global id for a particular comp, http://namespace.cteresource.org/compgroup would not be the global id of anything | 23:42 |
| pcardune | comp groups do not have global ids | 23:42 |
| Lumiere | yea | 23:42 |
| Lumiere | I am just thinking | 23:42 |
| Lumiere | the comp groups don't have to be defined the same way | 23:42 |
| pcardune | right, they aren't actually comp groups, they are just generic groupings for a collection of tokens | 23:43 |
| pcardune | to give the enduser who is looking at the id more of an idea of what that is pointing to | 23:43 |
| Lumiere | ok | 23:43 |
| Lumiere | that works for me then | 23:43 |
| pcardune | ok cool | 23:43 |
| Lumiere | how do we assign them :) | 23:43 |
| Lumiere | how do we deal with %20 | 23:43 |
| Lumiere | and how do we display them | 23:43 |
| Lumiere | :) | 23:43 |
| Lumiere | the 3 central questions for the start | 23:43 |
| Lumiere | and then the second set of questions is "how do we resolve conflicts" | 23:44 |
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| t3h_sood | where would simple_add.pt be located? | 23:44 |
| Lumiere | and "how do we deal with getting ids put on stuff to begin with ;) | 23:44 |
| Lumiere | err | 23:44 |
| pcardune | ok | 23:44 |
| Lumiere | good enough to start | 23:45 |
| pcardune | as far as %20... we don't have to worry about them at all. We don't care what you put in there as long as it is a URI | 23:45 |
| pcardune | and zope handles the validation of that | 23:46 |
| Lumiere | k | 23:46 |
| pcardune | display them, you just display them like any other string | 23:46 |
| pcardune | assignment, you just assign them like any other string... in the add form or edit form of a competency, or in python via a regular assignment operator | 23:47 |
| pcardune | now, it can be a pain in the butt to write a big long id every time you want to add a competency | 23:48 |
| pcardune | so, we will probably want to have some system-wide area where you can define a prefix for all competencies created through the web on the system | 23:48 |
| Lumiere | ok | 23:49 |
| pcardune | And we probably want a way to generate tokens | 23:49 |
| Lumiere | well | 23:49 |
| Lumiere | we want a way to generate tokens from the group creating em | 23:50 |
| Lumiere | if we generate tokens | 23:50 |
| Lumiere | we won't know if they're changed or not | 23:50 |
| pcardune | I don't understand the last thing you said | 23:56 |
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| Lumiere | if cando generates the token | 23:56 |
| Lumiere | or would we generate tokens by hand | 23:56 |
| pcardune | so, you would click on "add competency" and you get a form in which you can fill in information. in the "global id" part of the form, already filled in for you, would be an id known to be unique on at least the schooltool instance you are using | 23:57 |
| pcardune | you are free to change that however you want | 23:57 |
| pcardune | so, cando would generate the IDs | 23:58 |
| pcardune | in that sense | 23:58 |
| pcardune | so, as far as generating that id, it would look up the prefix defined for the instance, and then... well, there are a number of ways to generate the rest of the Id | 23:59 |
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