| pcardune | srichter: do you have a moment to look at a problem I'm having? | 00:13 |
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| srichter | not really; I am not really here ;-) | 00:16 |
| pcardune | oh ok | 00:17 |
| carljm | pcardune: saw the irc log for this AM - I'm a new schoolbell user, interested in contributing, i know python but not zope - seems like whatever class you're running is what I need. is it too late to jump in? | 00:18 |
| pcardune | carljm: nope, it's not too late. check out http://www.ibiblio.org/obp/pyBiblio/courses/zope3class/ for what we've been doing lately | 00:20 |
| carljm | pcardune: great, i'll look that over. are classes every week, sunday, 1800 +0200? | 00:23 |
| pcardune | yeah | 00:24 |
| pcardune | send me an email with your email address so I can include you on the class mailings | 00:24 |
| carljm | sure, what address? whitman.edu? | 00:27 |
| pcardune | paulcarduner@gmail.com | 00:27 |
| carljm | k | 00:27 |
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| tiredbones | I just had somthing scary happen. I was getting fustrated, so I left my system for and hour or so, ran the same command, and it ran | 01:32 |
| tiredbones | is had to do with running test.py | 01:33 |
| th1a | carljm: I'm also urging people to look at the "commendations" package which is specifically created as documentation. | 01:42 |
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| carljm | th1a: thanks, i'll check that out | 01:47 |
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| ignas | srichter, ayt ? | 14:02 |
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| mgedmin | you scared him! | 14:07 |
| th1a | ignas: srichter is coming over to my place. | 14:07 |
| ignas | can someone clarify - is it a workflow that has more than 1 process or is it the other way around ? | 14:19 |
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| mgedmin | povbot: tu durnas? | 14:34 |
| povbot | mgedmin: Error: "tu" is not a valid command. | 14:34 |
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| mgedmin | so, were ST 0.11.4 and SB 1.2.4 released or not? | 15:07 |
| mgedmin | schooltool.org still shows 0.11.3/1.2.3 as the latest releases | 15:08 |
| jinty | mgedmin: indeed I did release them and they are already in debian/ubuntu. I think schooltool.org is a little behind... | 15:09 |
| mgedmin | hmm, dapper still has schoolbell 1.2.3-2 | 15:09 |
| * jinty starts bugging the people that can fix that | 15:10 | |
| th1a | jinty: Are you back home? | 15:15 |
| jinty | th1a: yep, I was just writing you a long e-mail;) | 15:16 |
| th1a | Good. | 15:16 |
| jinty | mgedmin: schooltool 1.2.4 in ubuntu has been failing to build because it needs zope3 as a build dependency. Zope3 been installable until today. | 15:30 |
| th1a | jinty: Zope3 has not been installable until today? | 15:31 |
| mgedmin | yep, if I do apt-get source schoolbell, apt downloads 1.2.4-1build1 | 15:31 |
| mgedmin | apt-get build-dep schoolbell | 15:34 |
| mgedmin | E: Build-dependencies for schoolbell could not be satisfied. | 15:34 |
| jinty | th1a: not the most recent one which depended on a the very latest twisted package, which only arrived today. | 15:34 |
| mgedmin | (not a very friendly message) | 15:34 |
| jinty | or so I am told.. | 15:34 |
| th1a | OK. | 15:34 |
| jinty | mgedmin: why couldn't they be satisfied?? | 15:35 |
| mgedmin | apt doesn't say | 15:35 |
| jinty | and what does apt-get install zope3 say? | 15:35 |
| mgedmin | apt-get install zope3 fails | 15:35 |
| mgedmin | zope3: Depends: python2.4-mechanize (>= 0.0.10a) but it is not going to be installed | 15:36 |
| * mgedmin runs apt-get update | 15:36 | |
| mgedmin | python2.4-mechanize depends on python2.4-clientform, which is not available at all | 15:36 |
| mgedmin | same problem with python2.4-pullparser | 15:37 |
| mgedmin | so, we're waiting until python2.4-pullparser and python2.4-clientform appear in ubuntu | 15:37 |
| jinty | basically. Most of these things are sorted in debian, it should be just a matter of waiting till the ubuntu guys pull the stuff in. | 15:41 |
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| erchache | hi | 16:03 |
| erchache | im upgrading to schooltool 0.11.4 | 16:03 |
| erchache | well....do it! | 16:42 |
| erchache | what is state about pdf report and ldap integration? | 16:46 |
| ignas | erchache, if you would look at the proposals you would see that we are not working on ldap integration, so if no one will step in and submit a patch+tests - it is not going to happen any time soon | 16:49 |
| erchache | ok....in going to investigate if any programmer of my job can do it... | 16:50 |
| erchache | and pdf reports? | 16:50 |
| erchache | its planned to change it? | 16:50 |
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| ignas | could you be more specific ? | 16:54 |
| erchache | pdf reports are very very simple....will be modified to get a better presentation? | 16:55 |
| erchache | its only a simple list | 16:55 |
| ignas | and what would you epxect ? | 16:55 |
| erchache | something like a ical ;-) | 16:57 |
| erchache | i publish on paper my calendars and actual print report is a f****d s**t....sorry :-S | 16:58 |
| ignas | erchache, if you would provide us with examples of pdf reports that you would like in some graphical format | 17:18 |
| ignas | maybe we would consider implementing them | 17:18 |
| erchache | ignas: ok | 17:18 |
| ignas | th1a, ayt ? | 17:21 |
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| th1a | ignas: srichter and I are here. | 18:19 |
| th1a | erchache: I've budgeted money for LDAP. We'll have it by summer, I hope. | 18:22 |
| erchache | ok, i talk about that with my boss. We have ldap environment recently installed | 18:22 |
| ignas | th1a, do we allow users to select a home period as the second/third period in the day ? | 18:32 |
| ignas | or it must allways be the first one ? | 18:32 |
| th1a | ignas: It does not have to be the first period. | 18:32 |
| th1a | (some schools want to improve their attendance statistics, so they make homeroom later in the day) | 18:33 |
| ignas | and what about day tardies/absences ? how should we treat inherited periods then ? | 18:33 |
| ignas | do you "only have to go to administrator if you are late to a lesson that is *after* the homeroom period" | 18:34 |
| th1a | Oh... I see. | 18:36 |
| th1a | Yes. | 18:36 |
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| th1a | If having homeroom after first period hopelessly complexifies things, then we can force it to be first period. | 18:43 |
| th1a | Ok ignas? | 18:44 |
| ignas | th1a, it's a cake compared to the second home room period ;) | 18:44 |
| th1a | ignas: I knew you'd be mad at me about that. | 18:44 |
| ignas | not mad, it's just really difficult to spec it out | 18:44 |
| ignas | completely | 18:44 |
| ignas | thus - hard to estimate, and hard to implement properly | 18:45 |
| ignas | th1a, now what about the day absence - we had all day events for them | 18:45 |
| * th1a becomes srichter | 18:45 | |
| th1a | workflow: one process is actually one workflow | 18:45 |
| erchache | th1a: errr.....i see on lastest updates, locales files arent update...i need to get it from rosetta, can be revised on futher releases? | 18:45 |
| ignas | gaaah now we've got 2 of them | 18:45 |
| th1a | basically process is a short version of workflow process | 18:46 |
| th1a | in WfMC several processes (workflows) are defined in one XPDL file | 18:46 |
| ignas | now with 2 homeroom periods should we have 2 all day events ? or events covering inheriting period absences ? | 18:46 |
| th1a | the idea is that you can store all processes of an institution in one place | 18:47 |
| erchache | who is system administrator of schooltool.org? | 18:47 |
| ignas | th1a, i see, i have solved the problem by extending the existing explanation workflow to accomodate correction | 18:47 |
| erchache | ftp doesnt run | 18:47 |
| th1a | ignas: You mean all day events on the calendar for day absences? | 18:48 |
| ignas | yes | 18:48 |
| th1a | Oh... that's not a big concern. | 18:49 |
| ignas | the word "day absence" becomes really hazy when you try thinking of it as 3 distinct time periods | 18:49 |
| th1a | I know... more like multi-period absence. | 18:49 |
| th1a | OK... we've got to go pick up our food. | 18:49 |
| ignas | yes | 18:50 |
| th1a | ttyl | 18:50 |
| erchache | ooopsss...i was wrong...ftp runs :-S | 18:50 |
| erchache | th1a: can do i add a new entrie for schooltool 0.11.4 on web server? | 18:51 |
| erchache | i see when refer to schooltool....uses schooltool calendar or schooltool 2006 | 18:51 |
| erchache | which type is schooltool 0.11.4? | 18:51 |
| jinty | I think that schooltool 0.11.x == schooltool calendar. | 18:52 |
| erchache | ok | 18:54 |
| erchache | can add entry for schooltool calendar 0.11.4 on web server or other will do that? | 18:55 |
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| ignas | th1a, we are missing only the description of the control panel/dashboard now | 19:12 |
| ignas | oh, and i didn't find anything that would need the timeout functionality | 19:13 |
| ignas | like - expire unexplained attendance records after time set in app preferences | 19:14 |
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| tiredbones | How does one know if an issue assign on issues.schooltool.org is closed? | 21:31 |
| mgedmin | tiredbones: you can add yourself to the nosy list for a particular issue | 21:35 |
| mgedmin | then you get email notifications | 21:35 |
| tiredbones | mgedmin, If an issue is not assign to anyone does that mean it's not looked at? | 21:49 |
| mgedmin | not necessarily, but that's a pretty safe assumption | 21:49 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: * mg committed revision 5783: | 21:53 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Replace the bugfix for issue 461 with a nicer one (the startdate >= start if statement appears in all other _scroll methods for other recurrence types). | 21:53 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Thanks, Carl Meyer. | 21:53 |
| carljm | you're welcome | 21:55 |
| carljm | i'm curious if the three other patches i submitted pass muster - all three appear to work, and none of them break the unit tests | 21:57 |
| mgedmin | I'm looking at them now | 21:58 |
| carljm | k | 21:58 |
| mgedmin | carljm: usually the idea is to write a new unit test (one that fails), and then see if a bugfix fixes that test | 21:59 |
| mgedmin | then you get a regression test that will prevent the bug from reappearing | 21:59 |
| carljm | alright | 22:00 |
| mgedmin | sometimes the thought that not only you have to fix a bug, but you also have to write a test makes a lazy developer postpone bugfixing... | 22:01 |
| carljm | i noticed that some of these bugs have been around for a while, and they aren't tough fixes for someone who already knows the code - some of them are crazy easy | 22:02 |
| carljm | seems like you guys need a bugfixer | 22:02 |
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| povbot | /svn/commits: * mg committed revision 5784: | 22:18 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Bugfix for http://issues.schooltool.org/issue449: when the user's preferences specified that weeks start on Sundays, the yearly view was broken. | 22:18 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Thanks to Carl Meyer for the patch. I just wrote a regression test for it. | 22:18 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: * mg committed revision 5785: | 22:22 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Backport changeset 5784 to the release branch, in case we decide to make another bugfix release (SchoolBell 1.2.5). Original changelog: | 22:22 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Bugfix for http://issues.schooltool.org/issue449: when the user's preferences specified that weeks start on Sundays, the yearly view was broken. | 22:23 |
| povbot | /svn/commits: Thanks to Carl Meyer for the patch. I just wrote a regression test for it. | 22:23 |
| carljm | mgedmin: on issue 449, i did not test with the included Data.fs, because I didn't have any login info for it. Is there a trick I don't know? | 22:34 |
| mgedmin | there was some way to change the manager's password... | 22:37 |
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| mgedmin | carljm, here's how you can do this: run schoolbell-server --restore-manager and the manager's password will be reset back to the default one ("schoolbell") | 22:39 |
| * mgedmin is about to go home | 22:39 | |
| mgedmin | the README ought to say something about --restore-manager | 22:40 |
| * mgedmin makes a TODO | 22:41 | |
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| dwelsh | hello | 23:08 |
| dwelsh | this is elkner and welsh | 23:08 |
| dwelsh | th1a: you there? | 23:08 |
| dwelsh | srichter: you there? | 23:09 |
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