IRC log of #schooltool for Friday, 2006-01-20

th1aOK, I'm not entirely sure which roles you need to do translations.00:00
th1aLog into schooltool.org00:01
th1aAnd go to
th1aDo you see the green tabbed frame around the content.00:01
huatsOh by theway I am quite use to work/devel with plone00:02
huatsI forgot to tell you that00:02
th1aOK, so you're a "Reviewer" now.00:02
th1aDo you have the "Translate into" option?00:02
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th1ahuats:  OK, try that.00:05
* th1a had to discuss dinner with mrs. th1a00:05
huatsI've just try but it's say that my priviledges aren't enought00:05
th1atvon:  Do you know how we can translate a ZPT?00:06
th1aOK.  I'll boost you, huats.00:06
th1ahuats: Try it now.00:06
huatsok now it works00:06
huatscan I start translating it ?00:07
th1atvon:  We're using LinguaPlone for all the Archetypes-based content (works with Quills, btw, if you change an import), but the front page is just a ZPT.00:07
th1ahuats:  Go nuts.00:07
huatsI am on it... at least after a little phone talk to miss huats00:08
th1aAlso, you might want to check and which I did using Google's translator.00:08
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huatsth1a, sorry for the delay, but the phone call just ended00:24
th1aNo problem.00:24
huatsI don't know if I'll be able to have a look at your "google translation" tonight, but I'll tomorrow (I am loving in France, and the evening has started for a long time)00:25
th1ahuats:  That's fine.  We appreciate any help.00:26
huatsIn fact it will soon be considered a part of my job : I have to promote the Open Source activites inside my company, and to be cutting edge on that...00:27
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huatsIs the current behaviour of the is normal ?00:50
huatsth1a, right now it tells me that this page dies not exists in english...00:51
huatsth1a, or in spanish00:51
huatsis it normal ?00:51
th1aI'm not sure.00:52
th1aI haven't used this before either.00:52
huatsneither do I00:52
th1aBut it doesn't seem to know that the page exists in English.00:52
srichterth1a: Well, shoudl about-this-website have Englsih content?00:53
th1aPerhaps because the pages were created before we installed LinguaPlone.00:53
srichterif so, this is not the expected behavior00:53
th1aWell, it is in English already.00:53
srichterbut I cannot get the English version anymore00:53
huatsof course it is, I've translated it from english00:53
th1aLet me have a look.00:53
th1aOK, something bad happened.00:55
huatsth1a, please tell me that I have uck up everything00:55
huatsI have switch the default language and delete the previous one ?00:55
th1aI'm not sure what happened.00:56
huatsok I thinj I have an idea00:57
huatsI am about to try to clear thaht00:57
th1ahuats:  You did "Translate into" > "Francais"01:01
th1aANd then fill out the forms?01:02
huatsthat's what I think at least01:02
th1aHm... It didn't seem tricky when I tried it last night.01:02
huatsplease tell me that I haven't "click on manage translations"01:02
th1aYou shouldn't have needed to.01:03
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th1aI wonder if it got confused because French is the default on your browser.01:03
huatsI know that I shouldn't have to01:03
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huatsas a matter of a fact it is not01:03
huatsmy browser is in english01:04
th1aWhen you edited it, did you insert all those links in by hand?01:04
huatsI just replace the existing sentences01:05
th1aWell, I'm not sure what happened.01:06
th1aBut I should be able to fix easily enough.01:06
th1aAnd I'll create a little documentation tonight.01:07
huatsI think you can using the zmi01:07
th1aCan what?  Undo?01:07
th1aI didn't have any luck with that for some reason.01:07
huatsoh really ?01:07
th1aIt tells me that there are no transactions that can be undone at all.01:08
huatsthat's weird01:08
th1aI know.  I haven't been working with Zope 2 much.01:08
th1aOK, I must go make dinner now, or mrs. th1a will be mad.01:09
huatsI wait til you return01:09
huatsit is my mess...01:09
huatsit is my fault...01:09
huatsso I wait :-)01:09
th1aI'll figure out what's going on.  You don't have to wait... it is getting late there.01:09
huatsdon't worry except if you return in 3hours...01:09
huatsbut if it is the case mrs thla should be a very good cook... And I want to visit you :-)01:10
huatsth1a|inux, when you return give me a line01:39
th1ahuats:  OK, I"m back.01:54
th1aWe had ostrich filets.01:55
th1aI cooked them a little too long.01:55
huatsi've never tried that01:55
th1aIt is very lean.01:55
huatsI think so01:55
th1aI like it.01:56
huatswell I think we point the pb : i might have click on manage traduction01:56
th1aI think that must have happened.01:56
huatsI just had a look at the pages you ask me to look at...01:56
huatsI've been very careful, and I didn't have the same forms01:57
huatsthis time it is easier to translate with the original message always next to me...01:57
th1aThat's the way it is supposed to work.01:58
huatsby the way I haven't save it yet, because I want your opinion : in the docment about the traduction and the need of volunteer01:58
huatsyou use many times : "I" like in "I'll be happy"01:59
huatsfor the moment I have translated it to We01:59
th1aOh.  Yes, "we" is better.01:59
th1aWhen I sit here alone it starts to feel like just me.02:00
huatsmay be the translation is not a word for word but the global sense is here...02:00
huatsI can easily understand02:00
th1aI'm sure that is fine.02:00
huatswhere are you by the way ?02:00
th1aProvidence, Rhode Island.  A small state south of Boston, in New England.02:00
huatsI know providence (juste by name)02:01
huatsthere is a big university right ?02:01
th1aBrown University.02:01
th1aNot so big, but in the "Ivy League."02:01
th1aI got my masters in teaching there.02:01
th1aWhere are you?02:02
th1aI'm going to be in Paris next month.02:02
huatsin fact I use to "know" some us college cause I really enjoy basket ball...02:02
huatsreally ? when ?02:02
th1aAh.  Basketball.  Providence College is here too.02:02
huatsI am not in Paris, I am in Toulouse in the south of France02:02
th1aNot as well known, except for basketball.02:02
huatsbut my girl friends lives in Paris . And I spend allmost all my WE in Paris02:03
th1aI'll be there on the 21st of February.  There is a division of UNESCO that trains educators in the developing world, and they're interested in SchoolTool.02:03
huatsyou're staying there betwwen when and when ?02:04
huatscause it is a tuesday, and I'll be in Toulouse at work... something like 1 h by plane02:05
th1aWell, I'm still planning the trip.  Looks like I'll be in England the 20th, Paris the 21, Belgium the 22nd, Holland the 23rd, something like that.02:05
huatsquite a busy trip02:06
huatsnot a lot of time to visit02:06
th1aI'm trying to visit a lot of people quickly.02:06
huatsI understand02:06
th1aIf I have to fly to Europe anyhow, might as well take advantage.02:06
huatswhy don't you stay a litle longer there is the fosdem in belgium just a couple of days after that02:07
th1aHm.  I didn't know that.02:08
huats25&26 feb02:08
huatsit is really really one of the place to go for Open Source Development02:09
huatsunfortunatelly I won't be able to be there...02:09
huatsnext year :-(02:09
th1aGenerally speaking, I'm trying not to travel for a while... need to concentrate on development, but maybe I could stick around for FOSDEM.02:10
th1aOn the other hand, my wife will be with me (she'll be on break from school) and she'll need to get back.02:11
huatsoh ok02:11
th1aSo it probably won't be possible.02:11
th1aI'll check out what is going on.02:11
huatsthat is why I am not going to fosdem....02:11
th1aA year from now I'll probably be traveling like a maniac.02:12
huatsI have translated
huatsI hope I haven't broke everything this time...02:12
th1aIt seems right to me.02:14
huatshave you been able to fix my previous mess ?02:14
huatsif you want to delete my translation you can, I have save it on my computer02:14
th1aWorking on it.02:14
th1aI used Google to translate it back into English so I could remember what it said.02:15
huatsif you want I could have help you on the translation back02:15
th1aI think I can get it.02:16
th1aWell, it isn't exactly the same, but close enough.02:24
huatsI am about to make the translation again02:25
huatsI'll be very careful...02:26
th1aHere, try this.02:26
th1aTry translating that.02:26
huatsjust 1 sec02:27
th1aIt's a difficult text.02:27
huatsit was difficult indeed02:28
th1aThat seems to have worked as expected.02:29
huatsagain I am really sorry for the disturbance02:29
huatsfor the mess02:29
th1aNo problem.  I'd like to know precisely what happened, though, so I know what to tell people not to do.02:31
huatswell I think I've been a godd case of study02:33
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huatsth1a, I thin it would be great that I translate the "new version of the about file " don't you think ?02:59
th1aI guess you should.02:59
th1aGets a bit circular.02:59
huatsOk I did03:09
huatsit should be fine this time03:09
huatsthat was no big deal03:10
huatsdo you know that the livre bookmark is not working ?03:10
huatssorry live bookmark inside Firefox03:11
huatsthe rss feed03:11
huatsusing the little icon in the address bar03:11
th1aOh... right.03:11
th1aYes.  I'll take a look at that.03:11
huatsby the way if I can help a little more than translating do not hesitate to tell me03:12
huatsI mean not tonight (i have to be at work in less than 7h)03:12
huatsbut later...03:12
huatsth1a, ok I go to bed03:16
huatstalk to you soon03:16
th1abye huats.03:16
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th1asrichter:  Heading out the door...16:55
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povbot/svn/commits: * srichter committed revision 5664:17:51
povbot/svn/commits: Implemented score system field and widget that allows you to either select a registered scoresystem or create your own ranged values one.17:51
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povbot/svn/commits: * mg committed revision 5665:20:14
povbot/svn/commits: Remove XXX and replace it with some explanation.20:14
* mgedmin hates libxml220:55
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povbot/svn/commits: * mg committed revision 5666:21:12
povbot/svn/commits: <a> elements do not have an 'alt' attribute.  Someone obviously copied and pasted the <img> tag from daily calendar events and didn't fix it.21:12
povbot/svn/commits: * mg committed revision 5667:21:20
povbot/svn/commits: Introduce a HTMLDocument class in schooltool.xmlparsing.  Make schooltool.testing.analyze use it instead of passing a raw libxml2 object to XMLDocument.  Remove the raw libxml2 object backdoor in XMLDocument.21:20
povbot/svn/commits: * mg committed revision 5668:21:38
povbot/svn/commits: HTML cleanup:21:38
povbot/svn/commits: * Added 'alt' attributes to all <img> tags (w3c says they're mandatory).21:38
povbot/svn/commits: * Removed width="48px" from photos, for two reasons: one, browser image scaling21:38
povbot/svn/commits: usually results in terribly ugly images, and two, the value of the 'width' attribute can be a number or a percentage; it doesn't take CSS-style units.21:38
povbot/svn/commits: * Replaced one border="0px" to "0" -- CSS-style units belong in CSS, not in21:38
povbot/svn/commits: (deprecated) presentational HTML attributes.21:38
povbot/svn/commits: I notice that there is a lot of duplication in page templates (a person's photo in three places; calendar widget icons in five places).  :-/21:38
povbot/svn/commits: * mg committed revision 5669:21:58
povbot/svn/commits: Set the svn:keywords property on all Python source files that didn't have one.21:58
povbot/svn/commits: * mg committed revision 5670:22:16
povbot/svn/commits: Fix tests.  Oops.  Obviously, I did not expect this.22:16
mgedminoptionstorage looks like it is very zope specific.  why isn't it zope.optionstorage then?22:23
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