IRC log of #schooltool for Tuesday, 2005-09-06

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povbot`/svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 4921:01:40
povbot`/svn/commits: Import a rather elegant harness for building live-cd's.01:40
povbot`/svn/commits: Of course uploading will only work if you are me.01:40
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povbot`/svn/commits: * ignas committed revision 4922:12:57
povbot`/svn/commits: Killing some 'cargo cult' code.  The code had no meaning, and no unit tests.  Performance increase while viewing a yearly calendar view ~ 3x.12:57
bskahanignas: 'cargo cult'?13:32
ignasbskahan, 'wiki pedia'!13:35
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srichterth1a: hi there16:24
srichterth1a: anything new? any special meeting outcomes?16:25
th1aNothing new, really, although I need to write up the outcomes.16:25
srichterwhen do we switch to the refactor branch?16:26
srichterbecause I see people checking in the trunk...16:26
th1aI'm missing a couple pieces of data to finish my follow-up.16:26
th1aIt is first on POV's list.16:26
povbot/svn/commits: * alga committed revision 4923:16:31
povbot/svn/commits: Creating a branch to optimize performance issues.16:31
th1asrichter:  more precisely, a couple things have to happen at the same time.16:35
srichterright, I would prefer this to happen on the refactor branch16:35
th1aWhich is why alga is making a new branch.16:35
srichterotherwise someone has to always merge the trunk16:36
th1aWell, the optimizations have to also be in the production versions, too.16:36
srichterI hope alga branches off the refactor branhc16:36
th1aYou see.16:36
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th1aYou can read over the logs of the meeting.  Basically we've got to juggle the development branch and the production branches, and it doesn't really matter which one the work is done on first.16:37
th1aIt has to be ported between them at this point.16:37
srichteroh, I see16:37
srichterI have also chatted with Jim, Fred and Benji heavily about building packages, releases, etc16:55
th1aOh right.  Are you at the sprint now?16:56
srichterThey suggested to use a build-out system for building and releasing schoolbell16:57
srichterth1a: no, I came back last night16:57
th1aHow was it?16:57
srichterwe sprinted Thursday and Friday16:57
srichterreally good16:57
srichterZC has a lot of the same requirements on software that we do, so I think we should really keep regular contact with them16:58
th1aI guess that's a good reason to keep you around.16:59
srichterhe he17:02
povbot/svn/commits: * alga committed revision 4924:17:45
povbot/svn/commits: Branching schoolbell for performance optimizations as well.17:45
povbot/svn/commits: * alga committed revision 4925:17:49
povbot/svn/commits: Changed the ST optimization branch to external a writable SB optimization branch.17:49
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povbot/svn/commits: * alga committed revision 4926:17:52
povbot/svn/commits: Refactored the recurrence expansion from calendar into events.17:52
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povbot/svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 4927:19:35
povbot/svn/commits: Back-port 464019:35
povbot/svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 4928:19:39
povbot/svn/commits: Back-port 4638.19:39
povbot/svn/commits: * alga committed revision 4929:19:53
povbot/svn/commits: Changed the signature of rrule.apply() to accept a start date along with an end date.19:53
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jelknerthla: hi tom19:56
jelknerdid you get the email i sent to tom yesterday?19:56
th1aI did.19:56
jelkneri haven't heard anything back yet19:57
th1aPerhaps he's on a vacation.19:57
th1aActually, he's on AIM now.19:57
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jelknerwhat is his nick?19:59
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flinthi there...20:00
flintelkner try looking in /var/log/ldm.log20:00
flintthat is what zimmerman said to do...20:00
jelknerflint: not now, i need to do cando things first20:00
flintthis file is on each wokstation20:01
jelkneri'll get to that afterward20:01
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flintjust cut and paste this info in a notepad...20:01
th1ajelkner:  I sent you a message with tvon's nick.20:04
jelknerthla: the time has come for us to address the distribution issue20:06
jelknerour cvs repository is a mess20:06
jelknerand it is making it difficult to install cando20:07
jelknerof course what i really want is "apt-get install cando"20:07
jelknerthen ubuntu users will be able to use cando without difficulty20:08
th1aThat's more of a medium to long term priority, though.20:08
jelknertrue, but i don't think it will be that difficult to do, so medium rather than long20:08
jelkner(breezy + 1)20:09
jelknerfor now, a good python script that did the install after "apt-get install schooltool" would do the trick20:09
jelknerthe instructions eldar wrote up yesterday are too difficult20:10
th1ajinty is good at that stuff, and he'd be happy if you paid him to fix it.20:11
jelknerah, so perhaps it is jinty i should be talking to20:11
jelknerhe was on a few moments ago, but he left20:11
jelknercould you send me his email / contact info?20:12
th1aIf your immediate problem is packaging, I'd talk to jinty.20:12
jelkneryes, that's the immediate problem20:12
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jelknertvon: hi tom20:13
tvonFair warning, I'm on some rough wifi and I might vanish at some point.  I'll join on good wifi around 4pm est20:13
tvonjelkner: hello20:13
jelknerdid you get my email?20:13
tvonjelkner: sorry I havent gotten back to you, I broke my finger and am moving a bit slowly through my mail20:14
tvonjelkner: yeah, I got it today, was out all day yesterday20:14
tvonjelkner: where is the current cando code?20:14
jelknerhold on...20:14
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tvongetting a checkout now...20:18
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jelknerhi paul20:24
pcardunehe jeff20:24
jelkneri've been talking with tom about getting us some cando help20:24
jelknerdo you know tvon and/or jinty?20:25
pcardunei've spoken with them yes20:25
jelkneri want to talk to both of them about getting some short term help with cando so it is up and running in time for use this year20:26
jelkneri'll send you, tvon, and jinty an email so you can follow up with them, ok?20:27
pcardunethat's fine20:27
jelknerhave you seen eldar's installation instructions?20:27
pcarduneyes, but i have not tried them yet20:28
jelknerdon't bother20:29
jelknerthey are too complicated20:29
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jelknerin the first place you, need a developer account on sourceforge20:29
jelknerand then you have to edit code by hand20:30
jelknerwe need to automate that process20:30
jelknerit has to be dead simple20:30
jelkneri think automating the process will not be difficult20:30
jelknerbut it would be great if we could get some experienced help at this point so we don't fumble around with it20:31
jelkner(we don't have time to fumble around ;-)20:31
jelknerok i need to get ready for my next class.20:32
jelkneri'll send the email as soon as i can, but definitely by this evening20:32
pcarduneare we still meeting at 4?20:32
jelknernot this week20:32
jelknerfirst week of school20:33
jelkneri mean it is the first week of school20:33
jelknerwe can start that next week20:33
pcarduneok great20:33
jelknerin the mean time tvon was downloading the cando source.20:33
jelkneranything you could tell him to make looking at it easier would be appreciated20:33
th1atvon has a bad coffeeshop connection.20:34
* jelkner needs to get ready for class... bye all!20:34
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povbot/svn/commits: * alga committed revision 4930:21:26
povbot/svn/commits: Optimized generation of daily recurrences.21:26
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eldafa1anyone home?23:48
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