IRC log of #schooltool for Wednesday, 2011-08-10

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th1aAfter repeated efforts to find the right combination of wifi,shade and electricity, I'm back on the phone.16:31
th1aHi aelkner yvl menesis replaceafill16:31
yvlhey guys16:31
aelknermorning16:31
replaceafillgood morning/afternoon16:31
th1ayvl: Go ahead16:32
yvlfixed a slight bug in gradebook's traversal, see dev list16:33
* th1a will be back home this afternoon...16:33
yvladded a simple view for no school years16:33
yvladded a "description" demographics / resource attribute field16:33
aelkneryeah, thanks yvl16:34
yvlremoved delete link for manager16:34
aelknerfor the gradebook fix, i mean16:34
yvladded css class customization for table formatters16:34
yvlmy pleasure, aelkner :)16:34
yvlclass customization is basically forwarding to zc.table built-in behaviour16:35
replaceafilland thanks for the css on tables16:35
yvlthat is that.16:35
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yvlmy pleasure, replaceafill  :)16:35
th1aAnd next?16:36
yvleither breadcrumbs or contacts - I guess16:36
yvlor something else you guys come up with16:37
th1aI think those are at the top.16:37
yvlok16:37
th1aI'll review the calendar more tonight16:38
th1aThanks yvl16:38
th1aaelkner?16:39
aelknerhttp://69.164.203.135:36660/schoolyears/2010-2011/20102011/sections/1/activities/Worksheet/gradebook16:39
aelknerclick on Add Activity16:39
aelknerreplaceafill, what happened to the hidden divs in the gradebook pt16:40
replaceafillaelkner hidden divs?16:40
replaceafillyou mean the empty divs?16:40
aelkneryeah16:40
replaceafilli moved them16:40
replaceafillthere's a new frozen set16:41
replaceafillfor the right totals16:41
th1aI'm seeing totals at left16:42
replaceafilli think that's not trunk th1a16:42
replaceafillhttp://69.164.203.135:6660/schoolyears/2010/q1/sections/1/activities/Worksheet/gradebook16:42
replaceafilltom:tom16:42
aelknerth1a, you're not going to see replaceafill;s changes because i just got word from replaceafill that he pushed16:42
aelkneri need to merge and push myself16:42
aelknerbut i'm confused replaceafill, where are the totals columns in the hidden part of the gradebook?16:43
aelknerafter <th class="gradebook-name">16:43
replaceafillaelkner we don't need them16:43
replaceafillnow that i think about it, we could use them16:44
aelknerdon't we need them to take up space to push the content to the right to line up with the overlaying div?16:44
replaceafillbut i want to get the scrollable part like i did last time16:44
replaceafillonly the grades part being scrollable16:44
aelknerah, ok16:44
replaceafillaelkner correct, but i'm getting rid of that16:45
aelkneri remember from before, your scroolbar only covers the scrollable area, it is better that way16:45
replaceafillcorrect16:45
replaceafilli'll put that back today16:45
th1aI liked the way replaceafill and I had it16:46
aelknerput what back?16:46
replaceafillth1a with only the center part scrollable?16:46
aelkneri'm guessing that's what he means16:46
th1aI don't know why were talking about changing it16:47
aelknerreplaceafill, i merged, and now the gradebook is all messed up16:47
replaceafillaelkner link?16:47
aelknerok, hold on, i'll push and deploy to my instance16:48
th1aLook...16:48
th1aAgh16:49
aelknerreplaceafill, http://69.164.203.135:36660/schoolyears/2010-2011/20102011/sections/1/activities/Worksheet/gradebook16:49
th1areplaceafill's design is the base16:49
th1aIt was fine16:50
th1aDon't break it16:50
replaceafillth1a i won't16:50
aelknerth1a, we're trying to get it into trunk, we're still working on that16:50
replaceafillcorrect16:51
replaceafillth1a it's just that i was trying to get both the gradebook and the journal to use the same template16:51
th1aYeah u merged 2slowly16:52
replaceafillright16:52
th1aBad replaceafill16:52
replaceafillsorry :(16:52
replaceafillmaybe we should keep two templates...16:52
th1aLet's cut 2the chase16:52
aelknerlet's get a working gradebook again so that i can proceed wth my own work, please16:53
th1aIt is ok if journal is broken a couple days16:53
aelkneri discussed with replaceafill yesterday16:53
aelknerhe can fix the journal to use a template intended for the gradebook later16:53
aelknereven if he doesn't touch the gradebook now16:53
aelknerlater he can try to get the gradebook to use his new grid class16:54
replaceafilli think i'll better do that16:54
replaceafillless confusion16:54
aelknerreplaceafill, isn't that what we agreed?16:54
replaceafillaelkner i started to do it16:54
th1aaelkner: You just need to not touch the column formatting16:54
aelkneri'm touching the columns all over the place16:55
aelknerthat's if you want me to do the tasks on my list16:55
aelknerreplaceafill, how soon an you have the gradebook fixed16:55
replaceafill1 hour after the meeting16:56
aelknerok, cool16:56
th1aaelkner replaceafill you guys have stuff to do then?16:57
replaceafillth1a i do16:57
aelknerth1a, i have a long list16:57
aelknerbtw, great idea to add teritary to add activity16:57
th1aOk see you this afternoon16:57
aelknerit's so much less cluttered now16:57
* th1a drops the bag of gravel16:58
aelknerok, replaceafill, i'll await your ping16:58
th1aThis phone is driving me nuts16:58
replaceafill:D16:58
replaceafillaelkner kk16:58
aelkner:)16:58
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replaceafillaelkner fix pushed17:04
replaceafillaelkner ping17:14
aelknerreplaceafill, thanks17:23
replaceafillaelkner question17:23
replaceafillfor the average and total columns, shouldn't we use the preference setting?17:23
replaceafilli mean, for the headers17:24
aelknerthe gradebook view class already has class attributes for showing/hiding those columns17:24
aelknerreplaceafill, it still doesn't work17:25
replaceafillaelkner same url?17:25
aelkneryes17:25
replaceafillaelkner the headers have the same height now17:26
replaceafillnow, we need to make the center scrollable17:26
replaceafillto show the activities behind the right frozen17:26
aelknerbut you already had done that, i don't get it17:27
replaceafilli'll merge it now17:27
replaceafilli'll ping you when it's pushed17:28
aelknerok, thanks17:28
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replaceafillaelkner you there?19:51
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th1aHome again, home again.19:57
replaceafill:D19:57
replaceafillth1a could we check the gradebook when you have time/energy?19:57
th1aWhat should I be looking at?19:58
replaceafillhold one, let me update my instance19:58
aelknerreplaceafill, i'm here20:00
aelknerwhat's up?20:00
replaceafillaelkner i pushed my last change, could you check it?20:00
aelknersure20:00
replaceafillaelkner thanks20:00
aelknerlooks good20:03
replaceafillgreat thanks aelkner20:03
replaceafillth1a http://69.164.203.135:6660/schoolyears/2010/q1/sections/1/activities/Worksheet/gradebook20:03
aelknerone thing though, the menu for Ave. is on the verge of being cut off20:03
aelknerbecause it's on the end i think20:03
replaceafillah yes, and the menu for the last student is allos cut20:03
replaceafillalso20:03
aelknerthe y in Sort by is shaven just the slightest amount20:03
replaceafillaelkner i'll work on both issues next20:04
replaceafillaelkner two observations20:04
replaceafill1. we could use the long title for the activity popup20:05
replaceafill2. the total and average columns are not using the gradebook preference20:05
replaceafillfor the label20:05
th1aWho am I logging in as?20:06
replaceafilloops tom:tom20:06
replaceafilli added a rule for the focused input20:07
aelknerreplaceafill, 2) what do you mean, they are not using preferences?20:07
replaceafillnope20:08
aelkneri checked the template, it still has tal:condition="not: view/total_hide"20:08
th1aAre the column labels still links in addition to popping the menus?20:08
th1aI'm just wondering what was going on on the iPhone.20:08
replaceafillaelkner <a class="popup_link" href="" i18n:translate="">Ave.</a>20:08
aelkneroh, the preference for label20:09
aelknerwe're getting rid of that20:09
aelknerth1a reconsidered it even being necessary20:09
replaceafillah ok20:10
replaceafillso the user won't be able to customize the labels anymore, right?20:10
aelknerright20:10
replaceafillgot it20:11
aelkneranyway, any cahnge you make to fix the cutoff issues will be small in scope, easy to merge, right?20:11
replaceafilli think so, i just have to test if a margin trick would work20:12
replaceafilli'm starting that now20:12
aelknerit fells like mostly a css problem20:12
aelknerfeels20:12
replaceafillit's a containment problem20:12
replaceafillthe popup is contained20:12
aelkneryes20:13
replaceafillso its display cannot overpass its container20:13
aelknercan it override the overflow property?20:13
replaceafillwe'd have to set the overflow on the container20:13
aelkneryeah, we need to be able to deend on it having a ixed size20:13
replaceafilli'm thinking on assigning more left margin to the totals div20:14
replaceafilli'll try it out and let you know when it's fixed20:14
aelknerok, cool20:14
replaceafillah aelkner another issue i found20:18
aelkneryes?20:18
replaceafillthe tardies/absences columns should be only shown when the journal is available20:18
aelkneryes, that's the way it works20:18
replaceafillno, the th's and td's are still rendered20:19
aelkneroh20:19
replaceafillempty20:19
replaceafillbut still rendered20:19
replaceafillbecause they only depend on the preference20:19
replaceafill(i think)20:19
aelknerdo you have the journal loaded in your instance?20:20
replaceafillyes20:20
replaceafillwant me to unload it?20:20
aelknerno20:20
aelknerthat might explain why the th is coming out20:20
aelknerby default, i think, the journal columns are shown20:21
aelknerhow does the oreferences view look?20:21
aelknerdoes it hafve those two columns there?20:21
replaceafillno20:21
replaceafillif the journal is not enabled those preferences are not set20:21
replaceafillhere: http://69.164.203.135:6660/schoolyears/2010/q1/sections/1/activities/Worksheet/gradebook20:22
replaceafilltom:tom20:22
replaceafilli disabled the journal20:22
th1aIs there a question for me?20:23
replaceafilloh sorry th1a, yes, any comments on the gradebook styles?20:23
replaceafillis it ok?20:23
th1aIt looks ok.  I'll let the dust settle though.20:24
replaceafillth1a cool, thanks20:25
aelknerreplaceafill, so you did disable the journal20:26
aelkneri think you fond a hole in the preferences logic20:27
aelknerthat is, the hide option, which is false by default20:27
replaceafillcould you fix it?20:27
replaceafilli want to know if my js logic for the right margin is ok20:27
aelknershould be set to true if the journal is not present, even if the user had it as flase before20:27
replaceafilli think false if no journal20:28
aelknerit's a logic flaw exposed only by adding, then removing the journal20:28
aelknerfalse is no hide20:28
aelknernot no journal20:28
replaceafilloops20:28
replaceafilltrue if no journal20:28
aelknerright20:28
replaceafilli always forget the preference is called "hide" :D20:28
aelkneryeah, a little confusing for the developers :)20:29
aelknerreplaceafill, i pushed to my branch20:39
replaceafillpulling20:39
replaceafillah20:39
aelknercould you merge from that?20:39
replaceafillwhy not trunk?20:39
aelknerok, wait20:39
replaceafillthanks20:39
aelknerreplaceafill, pushed20:42
replaceafillthanks, pulling20:42
replaceafillaelkner great it works20:43
replaceafillthanks20:43
aelknercool20:44
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replaceafillth1a zyt?21:53
th1apong21:53
replaceafillth1a could you advise on how to answer Chandara's last email?21:54
replaceafilli thought my last reply was clear enough :(21:54
replaceafillbut he insists on the multi-school report apprach21:55
replaceafillapproach21:55
th1aWe can output the data in a format that will allow them to consolidate it in their existing Access database.21:56
th1aWill that do it?21:56
th1aI don't know.21:56
replaceafillah ok, i'll add that to my response, thanks th1a21:57
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replaceafillth1a you want even/odd row colors in the gradebook, correct?22:59
th1ay23:03
replaceafillkk23:03
replaceafilli'll change to standard guidelines formatting and then we'll see what to change23:04
replaceafillhhmm23:04
replaceafilli'll better use the same header background... :)23:04
th1areplaceafill:  Really, we can just wait for the design from Schwa.23:33
replaceafillth1a right23:33
replaceafillth1a question about cambodia23:33
replaceafillcouldn't we write a script for traversing all the instances in a server?23:34
replaceafillto get the report data23:34
th1aWe could write a script to do that from anywhere.23:34
th1aYes.23:34
replaceafilli did a little test and it worked with running instances23:35
replaceafillwe only have to access the Data.fs files in read_only mode23:35
replaceafillbut i'll wait for their reply before suggesting anything else23:36
replaceafillaelkner i pushed a new change to gradebook trunk23:44
th1aWe could do that or just use the web.23:44

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