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| mgedmin | somebody decided to import locale twice in schooltool's app.py | 14:22 |
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| mgedmin | "just to be extra sure"? ;-) | 14:22 |
| bska|mobile | two locales is better than one | 14:23 |
| bska|mobile | ;) | 14:23 |
| bska|mobile | I caught that playing with pylint guess I never committed that stuff | 14:23 |
| * mgedmin is torn between two choices | 14:30 | |
| mgedmin | should the TermService (a container for Terms) be an attribute, or an item? | 14:30 |
| mgedmin | app.terms or app['terms']? | 14:30 |
| mgedmin | there are pros and cons for both | 14:31 |
| mgedmin | item: symmetric with groups/persons/resources, we get traversal and ILocation for free | 14:31 |
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| mgedmin | attr: differs from groups/persons/resources, the interface is more explicit, code looks nicer | 14:32 |
| bska|mobile | mgedmin: what is a Term? | 14:41 |
| bska|mobile | I like it as an attribute | 14:44 |
| bska|mobile | (found it in the glossary) | 14:44 |
| mgedmin | we used to call it 'time period' | 14:49 |
| mgedmin | a range of dates + an indication which days are schooldays and which are holidays | 14:49 |
| * bska|mobile nods | 14:51 | |
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| mgedmin | woohoo, we have a new SchoolTool logo | 17:23 |
| mgedmin | two things: shouldn't SchoolTool be BiCapitalized? | 17:23 |
| mgedmin | and the second one: the background color in the picture differs from the background color set in CSS | 17:24 |
| bskahan | damn | 17:24 |
| mgedmin | would that be some sort of color profile adjustment that Mac OS X does, but Firefox on Linux doesn't? | 17:24 |
| mgedmin | or gamma correction? | 17:24 |
| bskahan | what's the official policy OnBumpySchoolTool | 17:24 |
| mgedmin | Maybe we should put the text in HTML where it is easy to change | 17:25 |
| bskahan | I made that in gimp and it matched | 17:25 |
| mgedmin | and make png contain the zebra but no text | 17:25 |
| bskahan | yeah, that's what it will have to be | 17:25 |
| mgedmin | xmag tells me this: picture background is #efebe6, html background is #eae8e3 | 17:26 |
| bskahan | interesting | 17:26 |
| bskahan | ok | 17:26 |
| mgedmin | we could just use a transparent png if it weren't for MSIE :( | 17:26 |
| bskahan | microsoft should really pay me for the time spent on that headache | 17:27 |
| mgedmin | msie under wine renders two different colours as well | 17:27 |
| Aiste | but aren't there workarounds for MSIE? | 17:27 |
| bskahan | Aiste: yes | 17:27 |
| bskahan | its a hack though | 17:28 |
| Aiste | well, sort of universally accepted hack | 17:29 |
| bskahan | yeah, I'd rather avoid it if we can | 17:29 |
| mgedmin | gif? | 17:30 |
| bskahan | I'll try seperating the logo from the text | 17:30 |
| mgedmin | the patents expired already, didn't they? | 17:30 |
| bskahan | the text edges won't anti-alias right in gif | 17:30 |
| mgedmin | but if we remove the text from the image... | 17:30 |
| bskahan | yeah | 17:30 |
| bskahan | that's what I'm going to do now | 17:31 |
| mgedmin | btw what happened to the logo that was in 0.9? | 17:32 |
| bskahan | http://source.schooltool.org/svn/branches/schooltool-0.9.x/src/schooltool/browser/www/logo.png | 17:34 |
| mgedmin | http://source.schooltool.org/viewcvs/tags/schooltool-0.9/src/schooltool/browser/www/logo.png?rev=2760&view=markup | 17:34 |
| mgedmin | oh, you did that already ;) | 17:34 |
| bskahan | not sure why i didn't use it in the first place ...... | 17:35 |
| * bskahan goes to make coffee | 17:35 | |
| bskahan | oh yeah, I think 0.9 was broken in IE | 17:36 |
| bskahan | not sure thougj | 17:36 |
| bskahan | s/j/h/ | 17:36 |
| mgedmin | ah, maybe it was transparent | 17:38 |
| bskahan | not going to use HTML for the text after thinking about it (and making coffee) | 17:40 |
| ignas | well, one can allways create a png without alpha transparency, we know that the background will not be changed | 17:40 |
| bskahan | ignas: yeah, that was my original plan, maybe I just set the color wrong | 17:41 |
| ignas | set it right and leave it at that, or you want to change the background ? | 17:41 |
| bskahan | I thought I set the image background to match ... | 17:42 |
| mgedmin | success! | 17:45 |
| mgedmin | I made a transparent png with a background colour that renders correctly in MSIE | 17:45 |
| mgedmin | should I commit it? | 17:45 |
| mgedmin | or will I step on your toes if I commit it? | 17:45 |
| mgedmin | oops, it is not transparent at all | 17:46 |
| mgedmin | but nevertheless it renders correctly ;) | 17:46 |
| bskahan | heh | 17:47 |
| bskahan | I just committed one that should look right | 17:47 |
| bskahan | try it, if its not right please do | 17:48 |
| mgedmin | now I did it! | 17:48 |
| bskahan | heh | 17:48 |
| mgedmin | (not commit -- I made a transparent png with a fallback background color that is rendered in msie) | 17:49 |
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| bskahan | Alternatively, with the Gimp you can make a normal (unindexed, RGB image with alpha channel) PNG and select the option to save the background-color. This way IE will display the saved background color while better browsers will display transparency as intended. | 17:59 |
| bskahan | if anyone knows where that option is in gimp ... | 17:59 |
| bskahan | well, its in the png export dialog, but doesn't appear to work as expected | 18:01 |
| ignas | bskahan, well i do ... selecting background color must be performed in the default fg/bg color box | 18:02 |
| ignas | i mean you must select the bgcoloryou want to become the fallback color | 18:02 |
| ignas | and then (without even using the color) save the png | 18:02 |
| bskahan | ignas: thanks | 18:04 |
| mgedmin | I just did that, 15 minutes ago | 18:05 |
| mgedmin | it worked | 18:05 |
| bskahan | yeah, setting the background as a layer worked on 2 out 3 computers here | 18:06 |
| bskahan | but that seems to work on all of them | 18:06 |
| bskahan | yay | 18:06 |
| bskahan | hate@ie | 18:07 |
| * bskahan can't wait to see what's broken in ie7 | 18:07 | |
| mgedmin | I suppose there's not point in making a transparent png with saved background color | 18:07 |
| mgedmin | if you can just make a nontransparent png with background color | 18:07 |
| bskahan | no | 18:07 |
| bskahan | that's what I did a few minutes ago | 18:07 |
| bskahan | the background rendered correctly in IE and Firefox on a desktop, and right on safari, but wrong on firefox in linux | 18:08 |
| * bskahan shrugs | 18:09 | |
| bskahan | the save background version seems to work on everything here | 18:09 |
| bskahan | changed it to SchoolTool while I was at it | 18:09 |
| * mgedmin searches for uses of add_url in schoolbell's container views | 18:12 | |
| * mgedmin finds none | 18:12 | |
| mgedmin | I noticed that container views have a delete button at the bottom | 18:12 |
| mgedmin | perhaps they should have an add button too? | 18:12 |
| mgedmin | but it would duplicate an action item from the sidebar | 18:13 |
| mgedmin | so I'm not sure | 18:13 |
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| bskahan | I'd like to move many of the thing from the action menu into the frame, similar to plone | 18:14 |
| bskahan | so that the actions that directly impact the thing your viewing are in the fram with that 'thing' | 18:15 |
| bskahan | while the actions in the sidebar are more generic | 18:15 |
| bskahan | but plone's design for that is a little confusing ... | 18:15 |
| bskahan | tom's worked on a few variations but none have worked out | 18:16 |
| bskahan | that would put Add and Remove both in the frame on a container view and not in the sidebar | 18:19 |
| th1a | The distinction between the menu and the sidebar in Plone sites can be pretty arbitrary. | 18:37 |
| bskahan | ? | 18:39 |
| bskahan | th1a: how so? | 18:40 |
| bskahan | or maybe, which menu | 18:40 |
| th1a | Oh, by "menu" I meant "tabs." | 18:41 |
| bskahan | gmail is actually a better example of what I'm thinking of in some ways | 18:41 |
| th1a | I'm feeling more than a little flustered because my trip to Spain wasn't confirmed until this morning. | 18:42 |
| bskahan | the controls that affect a piece of content are located immediately around the content | 18:42 |
| bskahan | heh | 18:42 |
| bskahan | when do you leave? | 18:42 |
| th1a | Tonight. | 18:42 |
| bskahan | hah | 18:42 |
| th1a | And I had a hard time motivating myself to write the presentation without knowing for sure I'd even be there. | 18:43 |
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| bskahan | when's the actual presentation? | 18:45 |
| mgedmin | sparklines without matplotlib (but with PIL instead): http://bitworking.org/news/Sparklines_in_data_URIs_in_Python | 18:46 |
| bskahan | that's exciting, I wasn't thrilled about a matplotlib dependency | 18:47 |
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| bskahan | http://people.etria.com/~bskahan/schooltool-logo-cached.png happy accident | 19:46 |
| mgedmin | looks kinda nice | 19:50 |
| bskahan | its the browser cache sticking between schooltool and schoolbell | 19:51 |
| bskahan | may try to implement it for real later on | 19:52 |
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| mgedmin | are there any switches for starting day of the week (sun/mon) in schooltool/bell? | 20:15 |
| bskahan | yes | 20:16 |
| bskahan | in user preferences | 20:16 |
| mgedmin | can you give me a name to grep for in source code? | 20:17 |
| bskahan | weekstart | 20:18 |
| bskahan | in browser.cal | 20:18 |
| mgedmin | I was actually hoping for the interface name, but this will do | 20:18 |
| bskahan | or IPersonPreferences in app | 20:18 |
| mgedmin | a TextLine??? | 20:19 |
| mgedmin | why isn't it a Choice? | 20:19 |
| * mgedmin was hoping for an attribute containing an integer constant, such as calendar.MONDAY or calendar.SUNDAY (import calendar) | 20:20 | |
| bskahan | I can refactor it that way, I need to get rid of the Form in browser.app anyway | 20:21 |
| mgedmin | that'd be nice | 20:22 |
| * bskahan nods | 20:23 | |
| bskahan | doing it now | 20:23 |
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| bskahan | mgedmin: committed | 20:57 |
| mgedmin | bskahan, thanks! | 21:02 |
| bskahan | np | 21:09 |
| bskahan | committing an evolution for it in a minute | 21:09 |
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| mgedmin | see ya! | 21:12 |
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