IRC log of #schooltool for Thursday, 2016-07-21

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th1azwelch:  I'm afraid we don't support 16.04.02:43
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th1ahi replaceafill.18:29
replaceafillhey th1a18:29
th1aI did a little more qa and I think they just need to remove/re-add people from the streams to fix the issue once we push the change.18:30
replaceafilldoes that solves Piyali's problem?18:31
replaceafilli haven't tested it18:31
th1aI think so.18:32
th1aHer example is a little vague.18:32
th1aIt seemed more like the student wasn't withrawn properly from the old stream.18:32
th1aBut basically, noting odd seems to be happening now, so a do-over on the same date should work.18:33
th1aI can reply.18:35
replaceafillnothing new from me18:35
th1aPretty much just gather yourself and move on?18:36
th1aOK.  Didn't hear back from Dinwiddie.18:37
replaceafilli'll try to work on the remaining estimates18:37
th1aGuess that's it...18:39
th1aThanks replaceafill.18:39
replaceafillok, thanks th1a18:39
th1areplaceafill: ayt?19:01
replaceafillth1a, yes19:02
th1aOK, so... let's say we can nail down that 1000 VMS students essentially have the same issue at this point, e.g., they were removed from a stream but not removed from its sections.19:03
th1aIs it not insane to try to fix that with evolution or a script?19:03
th1aI know we don't want to get into sort of open ended stream/section fixing.19:03
replaceafillanything well tested would work th1a19:05
replaceafillproblem is how we test it reliably19:05
th1aWell, assuming we have their database and they test it on the dev server.19:05
replaceafillit'd need: ok, run script, check students, provide feedback19:05
replaceafilldidn't work19:05
replaceafilland probably some of the students would still be wrong19:06
th1aOK, should I try to nail down exactly what the problem that would need to be fixed is?19:06
replaceafillbecause they moved them in different dates19:06
th1aWell... it should be checkable insofar as we can say, if you were removed from a stream, but still in its sections, we should re-trigger the remove stream as of the same date.19:07
replaceafillmy point is, evolve scripts are for things that are 100% or nothing19:07
th1aOK, so would we want to use another mechanism?19:08
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th1aI don't know if we could just use evolve to add a new instance of each stream event "on top of" the existing one.19:10
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replaceafillsorry th1a19:10
th1aOK, so would we want to use another mechanism?19:10
replaceafillelectricity hiccucp19:10
th1aI don't know if we could just use evolve to add a new instance of each stream event "on top of" the existing one.19:10
th1aTo re-trigger the changes.19:10
replaceafilli'd first list how many students are affected19:11
replaceafilland confirm that with Piyali19:11
replaceafilli mean, through a script or something19:11
replaceafillbefore running some fix on the db19:11
th1aOK, so why don't I try to nail down the scope of this particular issue.19:12
th1aSince we've been talking about several related ones.19:12
replaceafillmy concern is that i remember seeing students19:12
replaceafillhaving two streams19:12
replaceafilland different "un-enroll" dates19:12
replaceafill(when i was debugging the old issue)19:12
replaceafillbut maybe i'm mistaken, we should ask19:13
th1aI can't think of any other workaround on their end.19:13
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replaceafilli was thinking about using the importer, but that can make things even worst19:15
th1aAt this point I am not sure whether the problem is students not removed from sections or not added to sections.19:16
replaceafilllittle of both i guess19:17
th1aOK, that's what I am asking.19:17
th1aI mean, based on what I looked at this morning, the manual fix is literally just to repeat the withdrawal event.19:18
th1aIf I was doing it manually, I'd be a step away from a human Selenium script.19:19
th1aok sent19:20
zwelchth1a: i'm an experienced developer... is it technically or administratively unsupported on 16.04?19:21
th1ahi zwelch.  We haven't looked at 16.04 at all.19:22
* zwelch notes that it seems to be running fine, right out of the standard package repository19:22
th1aThere seem to be some jquery bugs.19:22
th1aI mean, we don't know if there are or aren't really.19:22
zwelchth1a: ah, that might explain the bugs that i am seeing19:22
zwelchcool. i'd be happy to help debug them, as i'm only just starting my school. i am willing to run a custom version in production for a while, but i prefer to see anything i do go upstream19:24
* th1a goes to get lunch.19:26
* zwelch continues to work through the tutorial and will probably start asking a lot of questions here when finished :)19:26
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