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| replaceafill | hey th1a | 18:14 |
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| replaceafill | sorry i'm late | 18:14 |
| th1a | hi replaceafill. | 18:14 |
| th1a | np | 18:14 |
| replaceafill | internet people were here fixing my cable modem | 18:14 |
| th1a | Ah. | 18:15 |
| replaceafill | i'm at full speed again | 18:15 |
| th1a | That is a valid excuse. ;-) | 18:15 |
| replaceafill | :D | 18:15 |
| replaceafill | so, not news yet about the db, right? | 18:16 |
| replaceafill | no* | 18:16 |
| th1a | No. | 18:17 |
| replaceafill | ok | 18:17 |
| replaceafill | anything about niswonger? | 18:17 |
| th1a | No. | 18:17 |
| replaceafill | ok, just checking | 18:17 |
| th1a | Mark McDougal is asking how much sending emails to groups would/might cost. | 18:18 |
| th1a | https://answers.launchpad.net/schooltool/+question/262132 | 18:18 |
| th1a | I think the main thing is we'd need a compose form and we'd need a screen for each mail that showed if any errors came back for any of the mails. | 18:19 |
| replaceafill | reading the looong thread... | 18:22 |
| th1a | Not really necessary, except to fully appreciate how much I've inadvertantly strung people along on 3.0. | 18:23 |
| replaceafill | :) | 18:23 |
| replaceafill | "An email list from any group?" | 18:24 |
| replaceafill | what does that mean? | 18:24 |
| th1a | Creating email lists... | 18:25 |
| th1a | somewhere? | 18:25 |
| th1a | I'm not worrying about that. | 18:25 |
| th1a | I'd stick with just "Send an email to this group." | 18:25 |
| th1a | Well, the contacts associate with people in this group. | 18:26 |
| th1a | associated | 18:26 |
| th1a | I mean, it seems 3 days-ish to me. | 18:26 |
| replaceafill | writing it in a blueprint would be nice | 18:26 |
| replaceafill | i mean, reading the thread is confusing | 18:27 |
| th1a | Don't read the thread. | 18:27 |
| replaceafill | "send an email to a schooltool group"? | 18:27 |
| th1a | ;-) | 18:27 |
| replaceafill | lists, groups, what are we talking here? | 18:27 |
| th1a | You want to send an email to the contacts associated with each person in the group. | 18:27 |
| th1a | Forget the lists part. | 18:28 |
| replaceafill | ok | 18:28 |
| th1a | This is just, go to group, select Action: Send emails | 18:28 |
| th1a | Write email, hit send. | 18:28 |
| replaceafill | ok | 18:28 |
| th1a | You need another screen to see any errors/statuses associated with the email. | 18:28 |
| th1a | So when people say "Hey, I didn't get that email," you have some idea of what's going on. | 18:29 |
| th1a | "The system says you got it..." | 18:29 |
| replaceafill | i don't remember how our email system works at this point... | 18:29 |
| th1a | It just acts as a client. | 18:30 |
| replaceafill | are we really going to estimate this? | 18:30 |
| replaceafill | i'd need to check | 18:30 |
| th1a | We are going to vaguely estimate it. | 18:30 |
| replaceafill | say 1 week then :) | 18:30 |
| replaceafill | or 3-5 days | 18:30 |
| th1a | Yes, ok. | 18:31 |
| replaceafill | at some point i assumed, based on some bugs or questions, that the email functionality didn't work anymore | 18:32 |
| th1a | So I guess to replicate the report bugs you'd have to do the rollover the same way you did. | 18:32 |
| th1a | It is finicky. | 18:32 |
| th1a | I mean, it is finicky in the same way getting any email client configured is, I think. | 18:33 |
| th1a | Get the wrong port number or whatever. | 18:33 |
| th1a | So people are naturally going to have some problems with it. | 18:33 |
| th1a | I think it is kind of a moot point because for one school to shell out for something like group emails does not look like a very good deal. | 18:34 |
| th1a | Which is why I'm not beating the bushes for single school clients... | 18:35 |
| replaceafill | right | 18:35 |
| replaceafill | one thing i remember i realized after i understood zope + schooltool better was that our email system is not transactional | 18:36 |
| th1a | Meaning? | 18:36 |
| replaceafill | the system can get blocked by a email waiting to be sent | 18:36 |
| replaceafill | like old reports | 18:36 |
| replaceafill | maybe we could make sending emails a background task | 18:37 |
| replaceafill | not for this contract | 18:37 |
| th1a | Ah, yes. | 18:37 |
| th1a | Right. | 18:37 |
| replaceafill | 4.0 ;) | 18:38 |
| th1a | In general it is something that a number of potential users would like, but not a high priority. | 18:38 |
| replaceafill | right | 18:38 |
| th1a | Once you started pulling on threads, there would be more to do. | 18:38 |
| th1a | iirc, aelkner added that for SLA. | 18:38 |
| th1a | In intervention. | 18:38 |
| replaceafill | ah | 18:39 |
| th1a | Like everything in intervention, it has been an orphan for a long time. | 18:39 |
| replaceafill | :( | 18:40 |
| th1a | Is there anything you can reasonably do without a database from Fran? | 18:41 |
| replaceafill | i think so | 18:41 |
| replaceafill | i'll try to reproduce some of them | 18:41 |
| th1a | OK. | 18:42 |
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| th1a | replaceafill: does that database work for you? | 21:38 |
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| replaceafill | th1a, i can extract it, yes | 22:12 |
| replaceafill | haven't checked it yet | 22:12 |
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| replaceafill | th1a, found the issue, sigh... | 22:30 |
| replaceafill | fixed | 22:30 |
| th1a | Ah... was it just one thing replaceafill? | 23:00 |
| replaceafill | i mean, the problem she just reported with the students group | 23:01 |
| replaceafill | i also fixed the attendance filter | 23:01 |
| th1a | OK. | 23:01 |
| replaceafill | a couple of reports will take longer to be fixed | 23:02 |
| replaceafill | they're working off the active year | 23:02 |
| replaceafill | not taking into account level dates, but just the current level | 23:02 |
| th1a | OK, yeah. | 23:03 |
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