IRC log of #schooltool for Friday, 2015-08-14

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th1ahi replaceafill.17:29
replaceafillhey th1a17:29
th1aOK, so it seems to me at this point that the easiest way to do remote updates is to just download all the .debs from the relevant PPA's.17:30
th1aI'm trying to test that now.17:30
replaceafillhhmm ok17:30
th1aAll the various tools just introduce so much complexity.17:30
th1aDo you have any other thoughts.17:30
replaceafilldon't we need some kind of index to do that?17:30
replaceafilli don't think i have ever tried it so...17:31
th1aThis would just deal with things where there is no changes in outside dependencies.17:32
replaceafillthey may be dependencies between schooltool packages17:33
th1aYeah, but they would have to be in the ppa?17:33
replaceafillsure, but you propose to install them individually?17:33
th1awell, I'm going to try apt-get install * in a minute.17:34
replaceafilli guess you could if you do it in the right order17:34
replaceafillah ok17:34
replaceafilli think it should be dpkg or something else17:34
replaceafillbut again17:34
replaceafillnever done it17:34
th1aI almost have the files...17:35
replaceafillwhat's the complexity of the other tools?17:35
replaceafilli thought this was a solved problem17:35
th1aWell the cube server seems like a ton of work to only do the same thing.17:35
th1aNot a ton, but more trouble than it is worth.  It is confusing.17:36
replaceafillafter being set up?17:36
th1aThe older tools are set up to perhaps make an archive specifically on CD-ROM.17:36
th1aYes after being set up, and I don't think it is really doing anything other than downloading debs.17:37
th1aThat doesn't work at all.17:37
th1aP O cpi;dm17:37
th1aI couldn't get it to.17:37
th1aOK, trying open all with Ubuntu Software Center...17:39
replaceafilli'd rather a terminal based solution17:40
th1aYou would rather...17:41
th1aI'm just checking.17:41
replaceafillalthough we have schooltool logs i guess17:41
replaceafillin case something goes wrong17:41
th1aoh yea, dpkg...17:42
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th1aOK, that handles sequencing, USC does not.17:42
th1aoop womething went wrong.17:43
th1aThis make any sense to you: python-zc.zrs : Depends: python-twisted but it is not going to be installed.17:44
replaceafillwell schooltool depends on zrs17:45
replaceafillyou're trying to upgrade?17:45
th1aThe easiest thing to simulate is installing peas on a stock schooltool using the files from the ARK ppa?17:46
replaceafillnot sure if it's the easiest thing17:47
replaceafillbut it should work17:47
th1aEasiest to set up.17:47
th1aEh... somehow twisted is messed up in this install entirely.17:48
th1aHow did it install schooltool without twisted?17:49
replaceafilli don't think 2.8 depends on twisted17:50
replaceafillwhy don't you just install twisted separately?17:50
replaceafillthat's what apt-get does for you i think17:50
replaceafillthat's why i think you need an index17:50
replaceafillto avoid that kind of problem (unhandled dependencies)17:51
th1aWell, yes.17:51
th1aMore importantly, you have to also have downloaded all those things.17:51
th1ais twisted in the 2.8 repo?17:52
replaceafilltwisted is not a dependency for 2.817:53
replaceafillit's just a dependency for zrs17:53
th1aI'm just not able to get twisted -- its dependencies are failing (conch, etc)17:53
replaceafilli wonder if you package index got messed up17:54
th1aThat would be the concern with this approach...17:55
replaceafillfwiw, "sudo apt-get install python-twisted" works for me17:56
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th1aWell, it is wedged trying to install python-zc.zrs.17:56
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th1aIt doesn't want to stop.17:56
th1aOK, for some reason I was reluctant to try apt-get -f install, but that's what it needed.17:57
th1aI thought that meant "force" not "fix"17:57
replaceafillcommon mistake17:58
th1aOK, let me give this a minute to start...18:00
replaceafillin the meantime18:00
replaceafilli finished the student add view18:00
replaceafilli'm adding the post secondary intentions form now18:01
replaceafilli *think* i have the JS figured out18:02
replaceafillfor hiding/showing the dropdonws18:02
replaceafilla question i'm not sure we have discussed18:02
replaceafilladvisor should be able to add advisors, right?18:02
th1aI'd say no.18:02
th1aThere will be clerks for that.18:03
replaceafilland there's no councelor role18:03
replaceafillthey're all advisors?18:03
th1aThey would like that but I explained it is a lot more complicated.18:03
replaceafillto have a councelor role?18:04
replaceafillhhmm well18:04
replaceafillthey're all advisors for now18:04
replaceafillafter finishing these add/edit forms18:05
replaceafillwe just need to "copy" the custom export from peas, right?18:05
th1aIt may need a few tweaks just to deal with the demographic changes (I surmise).18:06
th1aBut basically, yes.18:06
replaceafillbut i mean18:06
replaceafilland that would be it?18:06
replaceafillno custom reports or anything18:06
th1aRIght, she hinted there probably would be eventually.18:07
th1ast takes a long time to start on this puny swapping vm...18:07
replaceafilli feel like i'm behind on schedule18:07
replaceafillbut we're in an ok shape18:07
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th1areplaceafill: ayt?19:05
replaceafillth1a, yes19:05
th1aAh... still an error.19:05
th1aUnable to evolve 45.19:05
th1aAny thoughts?19:13
th1aWell, I'm looking at it.19:14
th1aWhat do you want to know?19:14
replaceafillthe traceback19:14
replaceafillbefore the unable to evolve19:14
replaceafilldid you start with a fresh vm for this?19:20
th1aIt just had the universe ST installed.19:21
th1aOh, yeah.19:21
replaceafillwhy don't you blow the db?19:21
th1aAh, right.19:21
* replaceafill imagines th1a in Uganda after a 6 hour drive doing this ;)19:22
th1aYeah, no shit.19:23
th1aWell, this is a weird case.19:23
th1aSo do you think that's some how from skipping from 2.6 to2.9?19:24
replaceafillno idea19:24
replaceafillyou could try a new vm with 2.819:24
replaceafillbut evolve 4519:25
replaceafillis the first custom peas evolve19:25
replaceafilland there's no error in the evolution script in your traceback19:25
th1aOK, so they should be past it anyhow.19:25
th1aI'm going to send the email.19:26
th1aThanks replaceafill.  I'm off to get my permanent crown.19:27
replaceafilllater th1a19:28
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