IRC log of #schooltool for Monday, 2015-01-26

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th1ahi replaceafill.16:31
replaceafillhey th1a16:31
th1aI'm re-reading Fran's last email.16:33
th1aOK, so at some point we have to calculate the "division" which is essentially a score system used for overall result?16:35
th1aAcross all sections?16:35
replaceafilli think so16:37
replaceafillwith this form i have the same feeling i initially had with the assesment report xls files16:38
replaceafillit looks like a lot of work16:39
th1aWhich form?16:40
replaceafillthe uce input16:40
th1aYeah, it is a bit of a job.16:41
th1aOK, so these aren't really in alphabetical order.16:43
th1aYou have other stuff to do for a while, right?16:44
th1aHm.  OK, these have 10 pairs of scores.16:47
th1aI'm kind of thinking we should just use a dynamic search widget with the form to find the next one.16:48
th1aAt least until the candidate numbers are entered.16:49
th1aI was waiting for a response.16:55
replaceafilloh sorry i thought you were brainstorming16:55
replaceafilland didnt want to interrupt :D16:55
th1aWhile checking the weather.16:55
replaceafillwhy don't you like the grid approach again?16:55
th1aWe're supposed to get 20-30 inches of snow between now and Wednesday.16:55
replaceafillnot sure if you mentioned it16:55
replaceafillthat's a lot of snow!16:55
th1aI think it is too busy and I think it is essential to give some per student confirmation.16:56
th1aI mean, it is possible, to be sure.16:56
th1aBut for one thing, we can't even replicate the order until we have the candidate numbers correct.16:57
replaceafillwhy do we need student confirmation?16:57
th1aI mean to double check each row as they are entered.16:57
replaceafillwe could hightlight the row?16:57
th1aConfirm the course numbers are right, confirm that the aggregate result is correct.16:57
th1aThere are other ways of doing it.16:58
th1aI'm just thinking that a custom single person entry form is not that hard.16:58
th1aIt depends on how hard it is to create a very customized version of the gradebook grid16:59
th1aI'm assuming that could get hairier.16:59
replaceafillin my head it's just a different way to layout the activities17:00
replaceafillnot per worksheet17:00
th1aThere is a lot of logic.17:01
th1aAnd everything has to be positioned correctly.17:01
th1aAnd we would like it to fit on the screen horizontally.17:01
replaceafilli think it would fit if we don't use any left sidebar17:02
th1aAlso, you're not saving as you go.17:02
th1aI don't know, it seems like a lot of issues.17:02
replaceafilli just think a grid is way faster to fill than individual forms17:02
th1aNot if you get messed up.17:03
th1aGo straight to the wrong person, etc.17:03
th1aAnd saving each person as you go is a big deal in this case.17:03
th1aI'm very dubious about these CAND-NO's.17:04
th1aAre they even the same every time you take the test.  I doubt it.17:04
th1a101 does not look like a unique ID.17:04
replaceafillare they even tied to the student?17:05
replaceafillmaybe they're just a # column17:05
th1aThat's what I mean.17:05
replaceafillonly a sequential number17:05
th1aSo essentially these are probably just unsorted.17:05
th1aSo I'm thinking:17:07
th1a1) you get just a simple search student widget17:07
th1a2) either submit/reload or ajaxify a form which has:17:08
th1aa) Sex, EC(what is that?), Full name for confirmation (probably skip age because we don't know from what date it is calculated (when was the test given));17:09
th1ab) basically a row of ten text entry widgets17:10
th1ac) submit.17:10
th1a3) Confirm screen that highlights any obvious errors and displays the whole row, including aggregate score and result.17:10
* replaceafill is checking the xls17:14
replaceafillwe'd need a division text widget17:14
th1aFor the result?17:16
replaceafillfor the "extra" columns17:16
replaceafilllike Check, Best 817:16
replaceafillthe auto-calc columns as Fran calls them17:17
th1aWell, I'm just worrying about the data entry side of this form.17:19
th1aAt this point.17:20
th1aSo my basic approach makes sense to you?17:21
th1aOK, I'll mock this up, bounce it over to you, and we'll come up with an estimate to send to Fran?17:23
replaceafilli don't think this way will take much time17:23
th1aNo, 2-3 days I'd think.17:23
replaceafillit's definitely easier than making a smart grid17:23
th1aOK, I thought so.17:23
th1aI don't have anything else new.17:24
replaceafilli still have to go through the teacher attendance reports17:25
replaceafilli mean, before getting to assesment17:26
replaceafilloh, i'll also help jelkner with his instance17:26
replaceafillthat's it from me17:26
th1aOK, I have to go buy groceries before it starts dumping down snow.17:27
replaceafillgood luck17:27
th1aWe've got no food in the house.17:27
replaceafillgo go go!17:27
th1aLater, replaceafill.17:27
replaceafillthanks th1a17:27
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th1areplaceafill:  sent you a mockup.21:00
th1aGoing out for some final errands.21:06
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replaceafillth1a, kk21:09
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replaceafillth1a, replied21:31
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th1a ayt replaceafill?23:26
replaceafillth1a, back23:45
* replaceafill went to the bank23:45
th1aI just sent the email to Fran (cc:ed you).23:45
th1aI don't think this storm is going to miss us.23:46
th1aSince we're on the coast, a lot of times big scary storms either just turn into rain or miss us out to sea.23:48
th1aOr it just melts on the ground for a few hours.23:48
th1aIt was under 25F most of the day though, so it started sticking immediately.23:49
th1aAlways a bad sign.23:49
th1aOK, I'm going to go make dinner.23:49

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