IRC log of #schooltool for Friday, 2014-10-31

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th1ahi replaceafill.16:26
th1aSorry for you loss.16:26
replaceafillhey th1a16:26
th1aOK.  Sorry.16:32
th1aHad to make sure our gas didn't get cut off Monday.16:32
th1aOur utility is confusing because gas and electric are the same company but they don't really make clear which is which when you're interacting with them.16:33
th1aWith their automated systems.16:33
th1aSo apparently I had setup the electric account but not the gas.16:33
th1aDid you get that evolution bug that Glenda passed along?16:34
replaceafilli just looked16:34
replaceafillit seems evolution went fine16:34
replaceafillprobably after the upgrade16:35
th1aWhat does it look like to you?16:36
replaceafilli'd like to ask Rob for the status of the four services16:36
replaceafillif all of them are listed as RUNNING16:36
replaceafillmaybe evolution just took a while and he was expecting the service back earlier16:37
replaceafillafter the 08:17:13 error16:38
replaceafilleverything seems normal16:38
th1aNow I can't find the bug...16:39
th1aWhat's the url?16:39
replaceafillfor the log16:39
replaceafillfor the bug16:39
th1aDoes it ignore that error?16:40
replaceafillyeah, we fixed that part when evolving relationships16:40
replaceafillgroups specifically16:41
th1aOK, so it logs the error and moves on.16:41
th1aIs that a deleted something?16:41
replaceafillyeah, the problem was old removed terms being taken into account16:41
th1aSo you explicitly fixed that.16:41
replaceafillGlenda found it a while ago16:42
replaceafillif you see a few lines below16:42
th1aI mean, the log would have stopped at that point anyhow.16:42
replaceafillcurrently at generation 42, targetting generation 4416:42
replaceafillwith no error anymore16:42
th1aIf you hadn't.16:42
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th1aWhat's the bug url so I can respond?16:42
replaceafilland at 08:17:13, the evolution was still targetting 4316:43
th1aHe gets that error over and over...16:46
th1aWhy would that be?16:46
replaceafillbut if you see it's the same key16:46
th1aIt takes an hour to get to the bug after trying to start.16:46
replaceafillyeah, the bigger the Data.fs the longer it takes16:47
th1aI does say it is failing to evolve.16:47
replaceafillbasically that evolution does string replacement on the file16:47
replaceafillyeah, but not after the upgrade (08:17:22)16:48
replaceafillagain, check the generation targetted each time16:48
replaceafillwhen he was getting the error16:49
replaceafillthe target was generation 4316:49
th1aWould that be the upgrade to 2.8.2?16:49
replaceafillhe hadn't upgraded yet16:49
th1aI'm missing something here.16:49
th1aI guess he was at least getting that error for several days.16:51
th1aWas it running without completing the upgrade, or was it just not working all that time?16:51
th1ayeah what?16:51
replaceafillyeah, he was getting the error for several days16:52
th1aWhen would it have shifted to targeting 44?16:53
replaceafillafter upgrading to 2.8.116:53
replaceafillthat change landed in 2.8.116:54
th1aWhich would have required switching to the 2.8 ppa?  Or something?16:54
th1a43 was 2.6.x to 2.8.0?16:54
th1aI'm just trying to reconstruct this.16:54
th1aWhat you're saying is that he getting blocked by this bug up to some change which actually would have fixed the problem if he'd waited a couple hours for the evolution to happen?16:55
replaceafillall of this, just from looking the log :)16:56
th1aDo you know why he would have had 2.8.0 instead of 2.8.1?16:57
replaceafill2.8.0 was released on may 8th16:57
replaceafill2.8.1 on august 26th16:58
replaceafillmaybe he had not upgraded since may?16:58
th1aAh, ok.16:58
th1aOK, thanks.  I'll reply.17:00
replaceafillth1a, do you mind if we review ark on Monday?17:00
replaceafilli still have a couple of small tasks to do17:00
th1aThat's fine.17:01
th1aI'll note that to Sunesh.17:01
th1aDid you get my rsync comment this morning?17:01
replaceafillwe're meeting with them on Tuesday, right?17:01
replaceafillah yes, i just saw it17:01
replaceafillwe'll design a new way17:01
replaceafillto transfer things17:01
th1a9:00 your time I think.17:02
th1aIt would be the same difference, right?  Just rsync the data.fs and blobs?17:02
th1a(don't literally sync, keep in one directional)17:02
replaceafilland we're going to sync repozo deltafs?17:03
replaceafillat least for BAIA, some of those can get to 13 or 20 MB17:04
th1aWell... there are a variety of ways we could do it -- I don't see why it would take any more bandwidth than zrs.17:05
th1aWe might want to just rsync the whole Data.fs.17:06
replaceafillah ok17:06
th1aI mean, it might get a little jerry-rigged.17:06
th1aThere is a reason we just tried zrs first.17:06
th1aWe could just nightly do a full repozo backup and sync that, for example.17:07
th1aI'm not sure I'd want to be dealing with deltafs's and reconstructing on the other end.17:07
replaceafillif i understand Sunesh email correctly, they're still building the vpn, right?17:07
th1aI mean, that SHOULD work too.17:07
replaceafillthey haven't tried zrs yet17:07
th1aIt sounds like they're going to try and get the vpn working.17:07
th1aBut the basic point is still just that they're all ways to copy the Data.fs, and they all should work.17:09
th1aAll right, my parents are arriving for a visit shortly and I have a little more cleaning to do.17:11
th1aThanks replaceafill.17:12
replaceafillthanks th1a17:12
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