IRC log of #schooltool for Friday, 2014-09-12

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th1ahi replaceafill.16:32
replaceafillhey th1a16:32
th1a(menesis, mobert, mgedmin)16:32
th1aHow are we doing on the report, replaceafill?16:33
replaceafillmostly done16:33
replaceafilli just discovered a glitch adding a couple of duplicate columns16:33
replaceafillnothing major though16:34
replaceafilland the xls works16:34
replaceafilli'll just clean it up a little (the code)16:35
replaceafillth1a, should i update the dashboard package?16:35
th1aI guess we'll be able to move onto other schooltool work.16:35
th1aIt doesn't really matter.16:35
replaceafillah ok16:35
th1aI'll send ARK an email just confirming we're all on the same page regarding the delay.16:35
replaceafillis anyone actually running the dashboard?16:36
replaceafilli guess not, right?16:36
replaceafilli mean, i never heard Sunesh asking questions besides the initial configuration files16:36
th1aPlus the release date is almost a month away anyhow.16:36
th1aSo... whatever is convenient for you.16:37
replaceafillwhat'll be next?16:37
replaceafill(schooltool work)16:37
th1aI'd say:16:38
th1a1) smarten the importer;16:38
th1a(pretty much just for demographics)16:38
replaceafillah right16:38
th1aI guess you might as well do "resource demographics" at the same time as long as it is quick.16:38
th1aEven though nobody uses them...16:38
th1aPresumably you can just copy/paste your changes...16:39
th1aDON'T get hung up on the resources though.16:39
replaceafillyou mean, add ability to import resource demographics?16:39
th1aOh, can you not do that at all now?16:39
th1aIf so, just skip it.16:39
replaceafillnot sure, let me look16:39
th1a2) Do most of those simple reports we discussed with someone last week.16:40
th1a(the labels, etc.)16:40
replaceafillthe resource importer doesn't look at demographics fields16:40
replaceafilljust title, description16:40
th1aI think that one complicated paper form we should just make sure there is a sane way to copy/paste lists of students in a section into your complex word document or whatever.16:41
th1aOK, don't worry about resources at all.16:41
th1aLet me backtrack a little.16:41
th1aOK, so they have that grid that they want people to fill out just on paper.16:41
th1aAnd it would be a pain in the ass in reportlab considering it doesn't actually plug in schooltool data beyond names.16:42
th1aANd they apparently already have it laid out in Word or whatever.16:42
th1aFor something like that, they might as well just use Word or whatever, and they really just need to paste in the names from SchoolTool.16:43
th1aIf you are following me.16:43
th1aSo I'll take that up with them.16:43
th1aDo you know what I am talking about?16:43
replaceafillyou mean the reports richard bychowski requested, right?16:43
th1a There was one that was just like a grid with a student per rows and a bunch of boxes for people to check.16:44
replaceafillah, let me check them16:44
th1aIt would take at least several hours of RML wanking I'd think to do the form in RML.16:44
replaceafillggrr, can't find the email with the attachment...16:45
replaceafillfound it16:45
replaceafilli assume you're referring to the Monthly Student Progress report16:47
replaceafilli think that if it's just the names16:49
replaceafilli mean, if we're not filling every column16:49
replaceafillit shouldn't take that long16:50
replaceafillall i can see as complicated is the table header16:50
th1aI'd almost rather have a system for telling people how to do this themselves.16:50
th1aAnyhow, I'll ask about it.16:51
replaceafillbut we're doing some of the other reports, correct?16:51
replaceafilli mean, from richard attachments?16:51
th1aYeah, definitely.16:51
th1aThe labels, etc.16:51
replaceafillusing the avery specific sheets he described?16:52
th1aYeah, those are pretty standard.16:52
replaceafilli mean, this is custom for him16:52
replaceafillah ok16:52
th1aI would consider those the "industry standard."16:52
th1aOr close enough.16:52
th1aConsidering the time necessary to implement them.16:53
th1aSo I'll look up the details on those while you do the importer.16:53
replaceafillah ok16:53
th1aAnd we could release the importer fix.16:53
replaceafillso the importer16:53
replaceafillhow are we going to do the match?16:53
replaceafillby title?16:53
replaceafillah ok16:53
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replaceafilljust for the demographics fields right?16:54
th1aDoes the column header already use ID, I hope!?16:54
replaceafillno, it uses the title16:54
replaceafillit just uses position, so it doesn't need the id16:54
th1aOK, well, that makes it a little messier.16:54
th1aIt probably should use both.16:55
th1aAnd throw errors if there is too much ambiguity.16:55
th1aAlso the exporter should switch to using ID.16:55
replaceafillusers can control both when they're creating the demo field16:56
replaceafillbut they can't edit the id16:56
th1aYou could have duplicate titles.16:56
replaceafillafter the field has been created16:56
th1aBasically if you use a title that applies to multiple fields, it should throw an error and tell you to use the ID.16:56
replaceafillgot it16:57
th1aAnd we should essentially be deprecating titles there by taking them out of the export and samples.16:57
th1aUnless you have a better idea.16:57
replaceafillno, i'm +1 on using IDs16:57
replaceafillmy question was, IDs just for the demo fields?16:58
replaceafillor every column, including standard person fields16:58
th1aI'd say we'd want to move toward every column.16:58
th1aAt least for that sheet.17:00
replaceafillso, basically you could create any kind of spreadsheet17:00
replaceafillwith just a couple of columns17:00
replaceafillas long as the username is there17:00
replaceafilland the importer should work17:00
replaceafillinstead of expecting all of them17:01
replaceafillgot it17:01
th1aWe could even make it ask if you want to create new demographics right from the importer.17:01
th1aBut there's no rush on that.17:01
replaceafillhow would you define the type and other attrs?17:01
th1aIt would have to pop a dialogue.17:02
th1aDo you want to create a new field...17:02
th1aBut, we can hold off on that.17:02
th1aOK, that should do it for now.17:04
replaceafillquick question17:04
replaceafilldid you set up a meeting with Steven?17:04
th1aI sent him an email... I'll call him today.17:04
replaceafillah ok17:05
th1aI haven't forgotten about paying you.17:05
th1aI don't want to do it in such a way that inspires even more scrutiny by the government.17:05
th1aThere tends to be limits on transaction sizes for that kind of thing.17:05
th1aIf you wire more than $10,000 or whatever.17:05
th1aI'll get that invoice to jelkner too.17:06
replaceafillany idea how expensive is to do he wiring?17:06
th1aOh, like $40-50 I think.17:06
replaceafilli mean, could it be possible to do multiple wires?17:06
th1aWe'll probably have to.17:06
th1aBut 2 or 3 I'd think, not 20.17:07
th1aIt is just the cost of doing business.17:07
replaceafillin fact, i'd appreciate if you could keep them under $5k17:07
th1aWe actually NEED some business expenses.17:07
th1aOh, ok.17:07
replaceafillbecause that's what i've told the bank i make17:07
replaceafilland anything above that always brings MY government on me17:07
replaceafillfilling forms, etc17:07
th1aRight.  Yes.17:08
th1aOK, thanks replaceafill.17:09
replaceafillthanks th1a17:09
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