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| th1a | hi replaceafill. | 16:00 |
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| replaceafill | hey th1a | 16:01 |
| th1a | How is it going? | 16:01 |
| replaceafill | good | 16:01 |
| replaceafill | i almost finish the xls | 16:02 |
| replaceafill | we can now convert table formatters to xls | 16:02 |
| replaceafill | i just converted everthing to text though | 16:02 |
| replaceafill | but adding a column for formatting content as numbers shouldn't be difficult | 16:03 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:03 |
| replaceafill | it's basically done | 16:03 |
| replaceafill | i'll update the instance | 16:03 |
| replaceafill | so you can see it | 16:04 |
| replaceafill | later today | 16:04 |
| replaceafill | and do some QA ;) | 16:04 |
| replaceafill | attainment next, right? | 16:04 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:04 |
| th1a | I'll go back over that. | 16:04 |
| th1a | hrm... | 16:05 |
| th1a | Let me log into my instance. | 16:05 |
| replaceafill | oh and i have the fees left-overs | 16:05 |
| replaceafill | (reports and delete views) | 16:05 |
| replaceafill | i mean, i need to work on those | 16:05 |
| replaceafill | the views should be quick | 16:06 |
| replaceafill | not sure about the report, but we'll see | 16:06 |
| th1a | Is there anything we can do to make the attainment info show up in a different section (fieldset, whatever) in Personal Info? | 16:07 |
| replaceafill | mark the fields with prefixes? | 16:08 |
| replaceafill | that's what we did for the fields for leaving the school | 16:08 |
| replaceafill | to filter them | 16:08 |
| th1a | Whatever it takes. | 16:09 |
| replaceafill | sure | 16:09 |
| th1a | It will just look like a mess otherwise. | 16:09 |
| th1a | Does the person import page look just at column numbers or is it smart enough to look at the header? | 16:09 |
| replaceafill | the importer still doesn't filter anything | 16:10 |
| th1a | By? | 16:11 |
| replaceafill | it just looks at column numbers | 16:11 |
| th1a | We should probably change that soonish -- then we'll be able to do things like just let them make a spreadsheet for importing the attainment scores. | 16:11 |
| replaceafill | after the password column looks for the demographics container | 16:11 |
| replaceafill | i think the importer should use column ids instead of titles | 16:12 |
| th1a | I assume it would not be difficult to make that change. | 16:12 |
| replaceafill | or a combination | 16:12 |
| th1a | That importer was just done as quickly as possible at some point... | 16:12 |
| replaceafill | that's one thing i complained over time | 16:13 |
| replaceafill | that every time we inserted a new column | 16:13 |
| replaceafill | in cando for example | 16:13 |
| replaceafill | we needed to change all the other numbers | 16:13 |
| replaceafill | columns 4 to 10 | 16:14 |
| replaceafill | became 5 to 11 | 16:14 |
| replaceafill | and so on | 16:14 |
| replaceafill | and if you missed one change, chaos | 16:14 |
| replaceafill | not sure how long it'd take | 16:14 |
| th1a | Yeah, it should be fixed, and unless I'm missing something, shouldn't be rocket science. | 16:14 |
| replaceafill | but we should do it | 16:14 |
| th1a | I mean, these things have ID's presumably. | 16:14 |
| replaceafill | yeah | 16:15 |
| replaceafill | and that's what we should use | 16:15 |
| replaceafill | and the user has the change to set the ID for demographics | 16:15 |
| replaceafill | chance* | 16:15 |
| th1a | Anyhow, that's not an immediate concern, but probably something they'll immediately ask about. | 16:16 |
| replaceafill | yeah | 16:16 |
| replaceafill | so, what goes in the attainment accordion? | 16:19 |
| th1a | I'll go back over those emails. | 16:19 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 16:19 |
| th1a | It is essentially just a set of scores by subject. | 16:19 |
| replaceafill | right | 16:19 |
| replaceafill | attainment should be the only thing left, right? | 16:19 |
| * replaceafill checks the calendar | 16:20 | |
| th1a | Yes. | 16:20 |
| th1a | Do you want to try a multi-school filtered report if there is time? | 16:20 |
| replaceafill | ah | 16:21 |
| replaceafill | yes | 16:21 |
| replaceafill | what should be the report about? | 16:21 |
| th1a | I mean, maybe you should do the main package first. | 16:21 |
| th1a | Well, the same xls layout. | 16:21 |
| replaceafill | :| | 16:21 |
| replaceafill | the custom export? | 16:21 |
| th1a | Yeah. ;-) | 16:21 |
| replaceafill | hhmm | 16:21 |
| th1a | It might need to be simpler. | 16:21 |
| th1a | Like, maybe you don't get a preview. | 16:22 |
| replaceafill | a sheet per school? | 16:22 |
| replaceafill | i mean, per instance | 16:22 |
| th1a | No, in aggregate. | 16:22 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 16:23 |
| th1a | That would be the point? | 16:23 |
| th1a | Or maybe it doesn't make any sense if we think about it... | 16:23 |
| th1a | It is plausible. | 16:24 |
| replaceafill | what i'm afraid of is that we don't have all these services available in the dashboard | 16:24 |
| replaceafill | like table formatters, etc | 16:24 |
| th1a | Yeah, it would be pretty different. | 16:24 |
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| th1a | At least doesn't sound like a quickie. ;-) | 16:24 |
| th1a | Never mind. | 16:25 |
| th1a | (for now) | 16:25 |
| replaceafill | definitely | 16:25 |
| replaceafill | ok | 16:25 |
| th1a | You could add voiding credits and debits. | 16:25 |
| replaceafill | voiding? | 16:25 |
| th1a | I was thinking that's how we should implement it. | 16:26 |
| th1a | "Void" | 16:26 |
| replaceafill | like not delete, but don't take into account? | 16:26 |
| replaceafill | in the balance | 16:26 |
| th1a | Yes. | 16:26 |
| replaceafill | ah | 16:26 |
| replaceafill | ok | 16:26 |
| th1a | That's the way you think of it in accounting, more or less. | 16:26 |
| th1a | Right? | 16:26 |
| replaceafill | yeah, i think so | 16:26 |
| replaceafill | do we keep the Delete action? | 16:27 |
| th1a | I'd say delete IGA's, yes. | 16:27 |
| th1a | IGA's are just not going to be as high stakes as personal accounts. | 16:27 |
| replaceafill | true | 16:28 |
| replaceafill | but i meant, the delete action for student fees, for credits/debits | 16:28 |
| replaceafill | currently you can delete them | 16:28 |
| th1a | Oh! | 16:29 |
| th1a | Yes, that would be instead of. | 16:29 |
| replaceafill | oh, cross-schools reports are scheduled for next week | 16:29 |
| th1a | Or maybe just leave it then. | 16:29 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 16:29 |
| th1a | We're going to take a break from ARK. | 16:29 |
| th1a | Until September. | 16:30 |
| th1a | Flip the next two months. | 16:30 |
| th1a | And as it goes we may delay the whole thing more, frankly. | 16:30 |
| replaceafill | ah true | 16:30 |
| replaceafill | ok | 16:30 |
| th1a | If we aren't going to get more feedback, we just can't write reports from the air. | 16:30 |
| replaceafill | so, you'll work on defining the attainment fields | 16:31 |
| replaceafill | meanwhile | 16:31 |
| replaceafill | i'll work on these fixes | 16:31 |
| replaceafill | voiding, new fee report, etc | 16:32 |
| th1a | If we have delete, I'm not sure I care about voiding. | 16:32 |
| th1a | I thought we didn't have either for credits and debits. | 16:32 |
| replaceafill | we do | 16:32 |
| replaceafill | it's in the credit/debit view | 16:33 |
| replaceafill | iirc | 16:33 |
| replaceafill | :) | 16:33 |
| replaceafill | the link for deleting is in the credit/debit *edit* view | 16:34 |
| th1a | Ah, ok. | 16:34 |
| replaceafill | so, no voiding? | 16:34 |
| th1a | We can just see if they complain, yeah, skip for now. | 16:34 |
| replaceafill | cool | 16:34 |
| th1a | OK, I'll read back through the attainment thread and send you an email. | 16:35 |
| replaceafill | ok | 16:35 |
| replaceafill | thanks | 16:35 |
| replaceafill | i'll go get something to eat | 16:35 |
| th1a | Thanks replaceafill. | 16:36 |
| replaceafill | thanks th1a | 16:36 |
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| th1a | I sent you an email, replaceafill. | 17:21 |
| replaceafill | th1a, ah ok | 17:22 |
| th1a | It seems pretty simple. | 17:22 |
| th1a | Just took a while to figure that out. | 17:22 |
| replaceafill | looking | 17:22 |
| replaceafill | th1a, so we have Year of sitting PLE and PLE aggregate score | 17:23 |
| replaceafill | and we're adding the PLE subjects | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | one text field for each subject? | 17:25 |
| replaceafill | PLE English, PLE Maths, PLE Sciences and PLE Social Studies? | 17:25 |
| th1a | Yeah. | 17:25 |
| replaceafill | kk | 17:25 |
| replaceafill | same for the UCE ones | 17:25 |
| th1a | We can convert them to ints easily enough when necessary. | 17:25 |
| replaceafill | UCE Math, and so on | 17:26 |
| th1a | I guess. | 17:26 |
| replaceafill | can you explain the 1-9 pop-ups part? | 17:26 |
| replaceafill | you mean accordions? | 17:26 |
| replaceafill | or 1-9 dropdowns? | 17:26 |
| th1a | Dropdown... menu... | 17:27 |
| replaceafill | PLE scores as text fields and UCE scores as dropdown (1-9) values? | 17:27 |
| th1a | I mean.... | 17:27 |
| th1a | dropdowns, ideally int values. | 17:28 |
| th1a | As opposed to just fields. | 17:28 |
| th1a | text fields. | 17:28 |
| replaceafill | i think, currently, demographics enum fields just store text | 17:28 |
| replaceafill | but i'll check | 17:28 |
| replaceafill | enum fields are the ones that produce the dropdown menues | 17:29 |
| replaceafill | and we present them in a different accordion in the index page for students, right? | 17:29 |
| replaceafill | i mean, in a separate accordion | 17:30 |
| th1a | They don't necessarily need a whole new accordion, but definitely not just mixing them in with no divider. | 17:30 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 17:31 |
| replaceafill | their own section maybe in the Personal Info accordion_ | 17:31 |
| replaceafill | same way we split general info (name, last name) from demographics fields | 17:31 |
| replaceafill | and for editing these? | 17:32 |
| replaceafill | same person edit view? | 17:32 |
| replaceafill | or a separate edit view? | 17:32 |
| th1a | Yeah, just like that should be fine. | 17:33 |
| th1a | Just the split should be ok. | 17:33 |
| th1a | I don't want it to be too high maintenance. | 17:33 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:33 |
| replaceafill | and it should be possible to import these values, right? | 17:33 |
| replaceafill | that's where the IDs change come in play | 17:34 |
| replaceafill | ok, i have enough to start | 17:34 |
| th1a | Yeah. | 17:36 |
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| th1a | replaceafill: ayt? | 19:03 |
| replaceafill | th1a, yes | 19:03 |
| th1a | Can you throw up an empty 2.8 instance for David Ally? | 19:04 |
| replaceafill | ok | 19:04 |
| replaceafill | empty db? | 19:04 |
| replaceafill | or sample data? | 19:04 |
| replaceafill | oh | 19:04 |
| replaceafill | sorry | 19:04 |
| replaceafill | :D | 19:04 |
| replaceafill | i just saw the 2.8 part :P | 19:04 |
| replaceafill | on it | 19:04 |
| th1a | Thanks. | 19:04 |
| th1a | Email david and I the link. | 19:05 |
| replaceafill | kk | 19:06 |
| replaceafill | th1a, is trunk ok? | 19:07 |
| replaceafill | or do you want 2.8 exactly? | 19:07 |
| th1a | Uh... | 19:10 |
| th1a | I'd think 2.8 exactly. | 19:10 |
| replaceafill | kk | 19:11 |
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