IRC log of #schooltool for Wednesday, 2013-10-30

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th1ahi guys... just a sec, I have to unload my groceries.15:31
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th1ahi replaceafill, yvl, menesis.15:39
replaceafillgood afternoon15:39
yvlgood morning / afternoon15:39
th1aHow are you feeling replaceafill?15:40
replaceafilli made a mistake yesterday, i went to the grocery store :(15:40
replaceafillthe stairs killed me15:40
replaceafillbut i'm ok15:40
th1aYeah... easy to have a setback.15:41
replaceafilli just learned i'm not ready yet15:41
replaceafilli have a question about steven's data15:41
replaceafillthey made a mistake (i think) setting up their terms15:41
replaceafilli think you can see it yourself:15:42
replaceafillgoes from april 2013 to june 201415:42
replaceafillcan anyone think of any side effect if we just edit the term to the right year?15:42
replaceafilli mean, before they create the new 2013-2014 year15:43
replaceafillthey don't have any timetable15:43
th1aI can't think of one.15:44
replaceafillah ok15:44
replaceafilli'll tell steven about the data error and let him fix it15:44
replaceafilli ran the new evolution script (improved one)15:45
replaceafilland it took less time15:45
replaceafilland less swap15:45
replaceafillin my laptop15:45
th1aOK.  Great.15:45
replaceafillso i made some progress there15:45
replaceafilli got dwelsh xls ready15:45
replaceafillto deprecate the custom courses15:46
replaceafilli'll do that today15:46
replaceafillfinally, jelkner contacted me, we're meeting tomorrow15:46
replaceafillto re-take the tasks we were working on15:46
replaceafilli guess that's it15:47
replaceafillah no15:47
replaceafilli have a question about bzr15:47
replaceafillfor yvl or menesis15:47
replaceafillor anyone ;)15:47
replaceafillis it possible to have a buildout setup15:47
replaceafillthat contains the same exact revisions that the deb packages have15:48
replaceafilli mean, i want to branch trunks that match the branches that were packaged15:48
replaceafilli remember there's a way, but i can't remember how it's done :(15:49
replaceafilli just wanted to make sure i'm not using more advanced stuff than what the ACC is using15:49
replaceafillbut it's not urgent anyway, so that's it from me :)15:50
th1aOK, thanks replaceafill.15:50
th1amenesis: I was wondering if you'd like to try to fix the 'm' and 'f' bug.15:51
th1aThis one:
menesisth1a: ok15:52
menesisI have been looking at it yesterday15:52
th1aSomething is slipping through the importer's checks, or something...15:52
menesisbut could not figure out how m/f got into the xls in the first place15:53
menesisimporter checks were added later15:53
menesisthat 2.1.1 release that is in precise ppa15:54
th1aOK, so it is has been fixed in later versions?15:55
menesisa check was added to importer15:55
th1aOK.  realistically we should just encourage a new user to use 2.6 then.15:55
th1aAnd presumably new users are the one hitting this bug.15:56
menesisit is strange, sample data contains male/female15:56
menesisbut the check would catch users entering m/f15:57
menesisso I should make a new release of 2.1 branch15:57
menesisbut it is missing so many bugfixes...15:58
menesisbut apparently people are using it15:59
menesissince it is still the latest lts15:59
th1aWell, the next is coming.15:59
menesisso probably it is worth backporting what I can16:00
menesiswithout too much effort16:00
menesisreplaceafill: bzr branch lp:schooltool -r tag:2.6.016:02
replaceafillthanks menesis16:02
menesisbzr tags16:03
menesisor they are clearly visible if you use 'bzr vis' or 'bzr qlog'16:03
replaceafilli wish tags were sorted chronologically :D16:05
menesisI have found one report that is not flourish-styled: ID Card16:06
menesisare there plans to change it?16:07
menesisat least change the footer16:08
th1aIt should be updated.16:08
menesisme or replaceafill?16:08
th1aYou're welcome to have a crack at it.16:09
th1areplaceafill is a bit swamped...16:09
menesisok, will try16:09
menesisI had a problem that reports were not generated at all16:10
menesistoday found out that  sandbox tries to use system schooltool's redis server16:11
menesisfixed Makefile to extract redis port from config file16:12
menesisfinished removing calwidget16:13
menesisupdated versionator for saucy release and made a copy to track trusty and unstable16:14
menesisand that's it16:15
th1aOK.  Thanks menesis!16:15
yvladded Completed Courses to person accordeon16:16
yvlwrote evolution for students / instructors16:17
yvlnow tweaking instructor membership dialogs16:17
yvlit's helpful, because it's in both cases a section-person relationship16:18
yvlso checking that I did not hard-code something somewhere16:18
yvlalso looked at the old relationship catalog branch16:18
yvlthat's that for now16:19
th1aHow far along was the old branch?16:19
yvlit worked, was speeding up stuff, but was inefficient in evolution speed and link duplication16:20
yvlI'll use some of it, will make some things different though16:21
yvland I'm still not settled on temporal part of relationships16:21
yvlshould we do temporal querying?16:22
* yvl is rambling16:22
th1aWhat do you mean exactly?16:22
yvlsay, we collect section-student relationships16:23
yvlthey are different depending on what date is today16:23
yvlinitially I was just cataloging role / type URIs and objects themselves16:24
yvlzc.catalog has something like date normalizer16:24
yvlbut then again, there's timezones16:25
yvlalso, as I go along, there are more places that need thought16:25
yvllike importers16:25
th1aOK, I don't think this is going to end up with a question I can answer better than you.  ;-)16:27
yvlhmm, not yet16:27
yvlbut we'll be there soon16:27
yvlbtw, we also have levels16:28
yvlthey're unused16:28
th1aThey need to be used!16:28
yvlbut if we could assign them to courses16:28
yvlwe could display Completed Math (level 2)16:28
th1aCourses should have levels, correct.16:29
menesisCourses, not sections?16:30
th1aI mean, it is essentially inherited by the section.16:32
th1a(the level is inherited)16:32
yvlwell, courses are the things taught16:33
yvlsection is where teaching happens16:33
yvlso yes :)16:33
th1aSo... is doing that somehow related to the relationship work?16:36
th1aJust because of the completed course thing?16:36
yvljust noticed it could be used there16:37
yvlcompleted courses look lonely now16:37
yvlbtw, we can also show other non-enrolled states there16:37
yvllike... pre-enrolled Math in 201316:38
th1aAh, yes.16:38
th1aIt is worth an accordion.16:38
th1aWell, if you feel like throwing that in now, I won't complain.16:40
yvlso I'll put it all out for your input early next week16:40
th1aOK, cool.16:42
th1aMy friend was impressed by the CanDo demo I set up for her.  She's going to show it to her principal.16:43
th1aOK, thanks guys.16:44
th1aHave a good week/end.16:44
th1aHappy All Saints Day!16:44
replaceafillth1a, nice :)16:44
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replaceafillthanks everybody16:44
yvlthanks guys16:45
yvlsee you soon!16:45
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