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| th1a | hi replaceafill, menesis. | 16:31 |
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| replaceafill | good afternoon | 16:31 |
| th1a | replaceafill: I've not yet cancelled the server we got for Telly. | 16:32 |
| th1a | I'm hoping we'll need it soon! | 16:32 |
| th1a | For someone. | 16:33 |
| replaceafill | ah | 16:33 |
| th1a | Although I did get a cryptic chat from her last week which I guess I should follow up on. | 16:33 |
| replaceafill | either i totally forgot about it or i just didn't know about it :D | 16:33 |
| replaceafill | ah, i was wondering about her | 16:33 |
| th1a | She may need to pay us to extract her competencies from those PDF's, even thought it may literally be a matter of cutting and pasting. | 16:35 |
| replaceafill | let's do it! | 16:36 |
| th1a | i.e., We may actually subcontract most or all of it to someone just doing data entry. | 16:36 |
| th1a | Yes, I'll email her. | 16:36 |
| th1a | She chatted to me on Google Chat and then was like "Just a sec, let me finish this email..." and never came back. | 16:36 |
| th1a | So... | 16:37 |
| replaceafill | at least she's still in contact | 16:37 |
| replaceafill | that's good | 16:37 |
| th1a | It had been a while. | 16:38 |
| th1a | Hm... are we expecting yvl to be back from the country? | 16:41 |
| th1a | No Lithuanian holidays until November 1. | 16:41 |
| menesis | yvl left for vacation in Italy a few hours ago | 16:43 |
| menesis | pushed batch retiring of skills in the morning :) | 16:43 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:43 |
| th1a | I thought he was going away but couldn't remember exactly when. | 16:44 |
| th1a | Do you know when he's returning menesis? | 16:44 |
| menesis | let me check | 16:44 |
| menesis | September 16 | 16:45 |
| menesis | two weeks vacation | 16:45 |
| th1a | OK, so how are we doing, menesis? | 16:46 |
| menesis | I have to admit that I have done very little in the last few days | 16:47 |
| th1a | Well, did you get the packages updated for the feature freeze? | 16:48 |
| th1a | It seemed like it. | 16:48 |
| menesis | looked at what has been done last week, wrote changelogs, updated milestones, and similar small things | 16:49 |
| menesis | yes, I have uploaded 2.5.2 releases done on Aug 23rd | 16:49 |
| menesis | but there are quite a few bug fixes in trunks already | 16:49 |
| th1a | OK, so, you just need to catch up with this torrent of fixes. | 16:50 |
| menesis | yes. I have reviewed them already | 16:51 |
| th1a | What's our drop dead date for fixes in the Saucy release? | 16:51 |
| menesis | there are many tests failing now, though. started looking at them | 16:52 |
| th1a | Yes, that's a real headache at this point. | 16:52 |
| menesis | October 10th is Final freeze | 16:52 |
| th1a | replaceafill is itching to get to them. | 16:52 |
| replaceafill | actually, it's not as bad as i thought | 16:52 |
| replaceafill | after the last commit adding the default manager user to the admin groups | 16:53 |
| replaceafill | but i'm only running the stests, not ftests or unit tests | 16:53 |
| th1a | Oh GOOD. | 16:53 |
| th1a | So really, when all those tests were failing, we should have seen that as an overarching bug in manager permissions! | 16:54 |
| replaceafill | in core iirc, we just have problem with the new Generate in request dialogs | 16:54 |
| menesis | ftests fail on remote reports/exports, they need some sort of celery bypass | 16:55 |
| menesis | th1a, yes, many tests failed on addCourse | 16:55 |
| menesis | and really, manager have lost permissions to create courses | 16:55 |
| menesis | fixed now | 16:56 |
| th1a | So we essentially have a month to tidy up. | 16:58 |
| th1a | Mostly with you and replaceafill. | 16:58 |
| th1a | And to write documentation. | 16:58 |
| menesis | yes | 16:58 |
| th1a | I'm going to do a Saucy version of the book I think. | 16:59 |
| * th1a just plugged in his new laptop cooler. | 17:02 | |
| menesis | I have made bugfix releases of a few zope packages. but nothing important. haven't reached zope.html/ckeditor yet. | 17:02 |
| menesis | don't have anything more to report | 17:02 |
| th1a | OK. How's your schedule look for the rest of the week? | 17:02 |
| menesis | I will try to fix some tests. merge basicperson cleanup. | 17:04 |
| th1a | I mean, do you have much non-SchoolTool work for PoV at this point? | 17:04 |
| menesis | do some more cleanup, e.g. remove calwidget | 17:04 |
| menesis | but it would be good to have more tests working | 17:04 |
| menesis | no | 17:05 |
| menesis | I don't have other projects currently | 17:05 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:05 |
| menesis | help colleagues with a question or two, but no tasks assigned to me. | 17:06 |
| th1a | OK. Sounds good. | 17:06 |
| th1a | We may have to move the Monday meeting, I think to Friday might be best. | 17:06 |
| th1a | It looks like I'm going to be responsible for the kids Monday afternoon. | 17:07 |
| menesis | pov has bought me a new laptop :) | 17:07 |
| replaceafill | congrats menesis! | 17:07 |
| th1a | Also, I'm going to send a draft of my narrative preview release. | 17:07 |
| menesis | so will have some fun installing it and moving stuff over | 17:07 |
| th1a | I'm living off my seven year old X60s. | 17:08 |
| th1a | It is doing fine driving an external monitor that would have probably cost a fortune when the laptop was new. | 17:08 |
| th1a | I'm just worried that I'm baking it, so I ordered the external cooler, which seems to be working quite well. | 17:09 |
| th1a | Especially when I'm working and running YouTube so Julia can watch Swan Lake over my shoulder. | 17:09 |
| replaceafill | :D | 17:09 |
| th1a | What did you get menesis? | 17:09 |
| menesis | Thinkpad T430 | 17:10 |
| menesis | with a 180GB SSD drive | 17:10 |
| menesis | :) | 17:10 |
| replaceafill | :| | 17:10 |
| th1a | Ooh! | 17:10 |
| th1a | It is The Ultimate 14" Business Laptop, I see. | 17:10 |
| menesis | :D | 17:11 |
| th1a | At this point I guess I'm sold on the value of getting a solid Lenovo. | 17:11 |
| th1a | Especially if you're running Ubuntu. | 17:11 |
| menesis | everyone in the office uses a Thinkpad. | 17:12 |
| menesis | I was very unhappy with my Dell. | 17:12 |
| th1a | I wanted to replace this a couple years ago but jacking up the memory and adding an SSD was just a much, much better deal than anything else. | 17:12 |
| menesis | mostly because of NVidia graphics, artefacts on the screen and flickering on scrolling in vim | 17:13 |
| menesis | and it gets very hot | 17:13 |
| th1a | Adding an SSD was like buying a new laptop. | 17:13 |
| menesis | yes, I asked Marius „what about SSD you have?“. he said „makes you never want to go back to a spinning drive“ | 17:14 |
| th1a | Yeah. | 17:15 |
| th1a | On my home PC I think I just have /usr on SSD. | 17:15 |
| th1a | I happened to have a small one lying around. | 17:15 |
| th1a | OK, we should move on. ;-) | 17:16 |
| th1a | Thanks menesis. | 17:16 |
| th1a | replaceafill? | 17:16 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:16 |
| replaceafill | worked on several things last week | 17:16 |
| replaceafill | fixed some issues with the cando reports | 17:16 |
| replaceafill | i spent some time cleaning the overview viewlets and Done buttons in administrative views | 17:17 |
| replaceafill | menesis, i have a question | 17:18 |
| replaceafill | is there any side effect to do "bzr push --overwrite" | 17:18 |
| replaceafill | i mean, with builds in LP for example | 17:18 |
| menesis | well | 17:19 |
| replaceafill | it's just that i noticed i commited a weird message in the gradebook | 17:19 |
| menesis | If you do a mistake and notice quickly, then nothing | 17:19 |
| replaceafill | usually i do small commits with dumb comments like "CI" | 17:20 |
| menesis | not sure what LP builds do | 17:20 |
| replaceafill | and then revert everything | 17:20 |
| menesis | maybe they do fresh checkouts every time | 17:20 |
| replaceafill | and then do a big "serious" commit | 17:20 |
| menesis | buildbot fails | 17:20 |
| replaceafill | it's not that i have to do it right now, i just was wondering | 17:20 |
| menesis | but then I login and do pull --overwrite to fix it | 17:21 |
| replaceafill | ah got it | 17:21 |
| replaceafill | well, good to know, thanks :) | 17:21 |
| replaceafill | th1a, i also worked again in the report card | 17:22 |
| replaceafill | sorry that has taken so long | 17:22 |
| replaceafill | but switching contexts have been difficult lately for me | 17:22 |
| th1a | Yeah, I know. | 17:22 |
| replaceafill | hopefully this week we'll have less requests from cte | 17:22 |
| th1a | I've had you putting out fires all over the place. | 17:22 |
| th1a | Yes... although that was invaluable for finding bugs! | 17:22 |
| th1a | Just a little hectic. | 17:22 |
| replaceafill | true | 17:23 |
| replaceafill | i'm glad when i read glenda's latest emails saying "everything looks good" | 17:23 |
| th1a | I should have a crack at Glenda's sheets & the new auto-deprecate. | 17:23 |
| th1a | I know. She's great. | 17:23 |
| th1a | Didn't completely freak out on us. | 17:23 |
| replaceafill | at one point i thought that was coming! | 17:23 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | ah | 17:24 |
| th1a | Dave was getting a bit itchy. | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | i also met with jelkner | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | and Sean Kinnard | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | and set up instances for their HILT | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | and AMHS schools | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | ah | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | take a look | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | not sure if th1a will like it... but: | 17:25 |
| replaceafill | http://schooltool.arlingtonmill.net/calendar | 17:25 |
| replaceafill | Sean asked me if it was possible to change the color of the top bar | 17:25 |
| replaceafill | because some students got confused | 17:25 |
| replaceafill | using both instances | 17:25 |
| th1a | Oh, I see. | 17:25 |
| replaceafill | so i told him about colors.css | 17:25 |
| th1a | As long as it doesn't frighten them. ;-) | 17:25 |
| replaceafill | jelkner said "i'm glad we have the teal now" :D | 17:26 |
| replaceafill | oh | 17:26 |
| th1a | There are other colors in the spectrum. ;-) | 17:26 |
| replaceafill | i noticed something about security | 17:26 |
| replaceafill | we have this security options under Server -> Security | 17:27 |
| replaceafill | about the admins/clerks having the ability to edit the gradebooks/journals | 17:27 |
| replaceafill | but the gradebook doesn't allow you, as a manager, to edit it even if the option is set | 17:28 |
| replaceafill | and the journal allows clerks to change grades even if the option is not set | 17:28 |
| replaceafill | so, a few loose ends there | 17:28 |
| th1a | Site Managers shouldn't be able to change grades. | 17:29 |
| th1a | But yes, the switch should work for admins/clerks. | 17:29 |
| replaceafill | finally, i've been helping someone in LP: | 17:30 |
| replaceafill | https://answers.launchpad.net/schooltool/+question/234939 | 17:30 |
| replaceafill | he's asking basic questions | 17:30 |
| th1a | btw, I'm going to make it clear in the documentation that since Site Managers and Clerks can elevate their own group memberships, the limitations of those roles are more to prevent accidents than provide airtight security. | 17:30 |
| replaceafill | and i'm mostly referring him to the book | 17:30 |
| th1a | OK. Did you hear anything else from the guy interested in Quiz? | 17:31 |
| replaceafill | one thing he asked about is how to customize the school logo | 17:31 |
| replaceafill | which i think is not in the book yet? | 17:31 |
| replaceafill | th1a, ah not yet | 17:31 |
| th1a | Yeah, I need a whole new pass through the book. | 17:32 |
| th1a | Which is the plan at this point. | 17:32 |
| replaceafill | cool | 17:32 |
| replaceafill | ok, i guess that's it from me | 17:32 |
| th1a | OK. Hm... should yvl's last checkins be in the PPA, menesis? | 17:33 |
| menesis | th1a, not yet | 17:34 |
| menesis | expected in two hours | 17:34 |
| replaceafill | "waiting to build" | 17:34 |
| th1a | OK. thanks. | 17:35 |
| th1a | All right. Same time Wednesday. | 17:35 |
| replaceafill | kk | 17:35 |
| th1a | Thanks guys! | 17:35 |
| * th1a drops the bag of gravel. | 17:35 | |
| replaceafill | thanks everybody | 17:35 |
| menesis | only the batch retire skills feature has not reached the ppa yet | 17:36 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:36 |
| replaceafill | not workrelated comment: i got 93% in french level 2 | 17:36 |
| replaceafill | level 3 starts today ;) | 17:36 |
| th1a | Ah, great. | 17:36 |
| th1a | lol | 17:36 |
| replaceafill | can't talk s**t still :P | 17:37 |
| replaceafill | damn french R | 17:37 |
| th1a | You may eventually be convinced to move to the US. ;-) | 17:41 |
| replaceafill | true! | 17:42 |
| replaceafill | but there's always toronto :P | 17:42 |
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