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| replaceafill | good morning/afternoon | 16:31 |
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| replaceafill | sorry i'm late (i'm at the mall) | 16:31 |
| th1a | Are you late? | 16:31 |
| th1a | hi replaceafill, menesis, yvl. | 16:31 |
| replaceafill | i'm not? :) | 16:31 |
| menesis | hi | 16:32 |
| yvl | good morning | 16:32 |
| th1a | I'm looking right now at an email from Aubrey in South Africa -- she's the person with the mobile app. | 16:35 |
| th1a | I should get you guys caught up with that... | 16:35 |
| th1a | So they actually have a working prototype. | 16:36 |
| th1a | I'll forward you some screenshots. | 16:36 |
| th1a | Having a nice Android app UI would be great ofc. | 16:37 |
| th1a | We're getting a sense of where each side is coming from. | 16:37 |
| th1a | They have Java developers (as opposed to, say, PHP guys), so helping them get started doing some API work themselves seems like a reasonable idea. | 16:39 |
| th1a | The next step, essentially. | 16:39 |
| th1a | If this really gets rolling it would certainly be worth some of our time. | 16:39 |
| th1a | Anyhow, I'll forward the latest email, and expect that we might need some emails and/or a chat explaining essentially the REST branch yvl just made. | 16:40 |
| yvl | ok | 16:42 |
| th1a | That's what I've got. | 16:43 |
| th1a | yvl? | 16:43 |
| yvl | umh | 16:44 |
| yvl | not much happened since yesterday | 16:44 |
| yvl | talking with you actually cleared things up a lot | 16:44 |
| th1a | Good. | 16:45 |
| th1a | Done? | 16:47 |
| th1a | (with your report?) | 16:47 |
| yvl | yes :) | 16:47 |
| th1a | OK. We want this to be *close* to finished in a week to fit it in the next release. | 16:48 |
| th1a | It is by its nature a loose-endy kind of task. | 16:48 |
| th1a | Are we plausibly on track for that? | 16:49 |
| yvl | I'd say yes | 16:50 |
| yvl | very plausable | 16:50 |
| th1a | OK. Good. | 16:50 |
| th1a | So let's aim for that. | 16:50 |
| yvl | finished - no, but close to finished makes sense | 16:50 |
| th1a | Yes. | 16:50 |
| th1a | OK. Thanks yvl. | 16:51 |
| th1a | replaceafill? | 16:51 |
| replaceafill | ok | 16:52 |
| replaceafill | please bear with me, i kind of feel a delay in the messages appearing here | 16:52 |
| replaceafill | th1a: i have a question for you | 16:52 |
| th1a | Sure. | 16:53 |
| replaceafill | last time when we said we were going to revisit the layout view | 16:53 |
| replaceafill | you said you wanted some journal options hard-wired there | 16:53 |
| replaceafill | can you give some details on that? | 16:53 |
| th1a | Ah, yes. | 16:54 |
| replaceafill | or do you want me to set up something so we can discuss looking at it? | 16:54 |
| * replaceafill listens | 16:54 | |
| th1a | Remind me exactly where you are in your queue? | 16:55 |
| th1a | Finished everything else and back to report card? | 16:55 |
| replaceafill | ah yes sorry | 16:55 |
| replaceafill | i finished jelkner's request on images | 16:56 |
| replaceafill | we're going to meet this afternoon | 16:56 |
| replaceafill | and i'm going to show him that | 16:56 |
| replaceafill | but i'm pretty much done with it | 16:56 |
| replaceafill | and i'm back to the report card work, on my notes, the next thing was the layout view | 16:56 |
| replaceafill | and i have that comment about the journal options there | 16:57 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:57 |
| th1a | One issue is that we need to probably just have a checkbox to include homeroom ("Day") attendance. | 16:57 |
| th1a | i.e., not per-course. | 16:58 |
| th1a | And we have to decide where to put that in the layout. | 16:58 |
| th1a | Understand the point? | 16:59 |
| replaceafill | yes | 16:59 |
| replaceafill | checkbox below the items maybe? | 16:59 |
| th1a | I'm worried more about the REPORT layout. | 17:00 |
| th1a | I'm sure you can find a place in the form. ;-) | 17:00 |
| replaceafill | ah, you mean where to put it in the pdf | 17:01 |
| th1a | Yeah, not quite sure how to lay it out. | 17:01 |
| replaceafill | a new table is all i can think of right now | 17:02 |
| th1a | I guess partly because I kind of want to put it near the top but I don't want it to be that promenent. | 17:02 |
| th1a | Prominent. | 17:02 |
| th1a | It could just have a subhead and a line of data at the end after the courses. | 17:03 |
| th1a | Attendance | 17:03 |
| th1a | ------------------------- | 17:03 |
| th1a | Days: 90; Absent/Excused: 3; Absent/Unexcused etc. | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | got it | 17:04 |
| th1a | Try that. | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | same format we use for the grades table, right? | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | i mean, style | 17:05 |
| th1a | Yeah, but I don't think it needs a table header. | 17:05 |
| th1a | Well, maybe each row is a term? | 17:05 |
| replaceafill | and we show the term title? | 17:06 |
| replaceafill | in the first column? | 17:06 |
| th1a | Makes sense. | 17:07 |
| replaceafill | ok, i get it | 17:07 |
| replaceafill | i'll start with something and ping you to see it | 17:07 |
| th1a | OK. I don't know if we have to update the per-course journal choices in the layout. | 17:08 |
| th1a | I don't think that's changed. | 17:08 |
| replaceafill | i was thinking if you want the excused/unexcused parts there? | 17:09 |
| replaceafill | right now it only has absent (which should be absences btw) and tardies | 17:09 |
| th1a | Ah, yes. | 17:10 |
| th1a | Right. | 17:10 |
| replaceafill | ok, i'll add those | 17:11 |
| replaceafill | that's all i had | 17:12 |
| th1a | Well, I'm still mulling over attendance... | 17:12 |
| th1a | I guess let's just keep it simple. | 17:13 |
| replaceafill | let's at least see how it looks | 17:13 |
| th1a | For each course just have the option of total absences/class meetings. | 17:13 |
| th1a | It seems like we can only offer a simple option or the choice of a whole row for attendance. | 17:13 |
| th1a | Because the way it is laid out, it won't work to just add a bunch more attendance data to the row with the grade data. | 17:14 |
| th1a | This report is groaning under the weight of data... | 17:15 |
| replaceafill | so, the hardcoded tardies/absences move out of the grades part, correct? | 17:15 |
| th1a | Maybe it just needs an attendance row. | 17:15 |
| replaceafill | above or below the comments? | 17:15 |
| th1a | Well, we're mulling. | 17:15 |
| th1a | I think we should keep this minimal and stick with Vinny's concept. | 17:18 |
| th1a | Which would mean the option of a single field per course that would be total attendances for the year. | 17:18 |
| th1a | Erh. | 17:19 |
| th1a | Eh. | 17:19 |
| th1a | bleh. | 17:19 |
| replaceafill | :D | 17:19 |
| th1a | Actually, the problem here is that people don't put this much attendance data in a report card. | 17:19 |
| replaceafill | i don't have vinny's pdf at hand, but i remember him just put days_present/days_total, riht? | 17:20 |
| th1a | Yeah, but it isn't even that easy for us to calculate days_total. | 17:20 |
| th1a | Let's just keep the option for one field of total absences. | 17:21 |
| th1a | For the year for the (linked) sections. | 17:21 |
| th1a | Abs: 4 | 17:21 |
| th1a | If anyone wants more they can complain. ;-) | 17:21 |
| replaceafill | so, no excused/unexcused difference then | 17:22 |
| replaceafill | just absences | 17:22 |
| th1a | The way this is laid out, there isn't room to start explaining data. | 17:23 |
| replaceafill | true | 17:23 |
| th1a | We can allow more in the grid-oriented version. | 17:23 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | i'll see some iterations coming, so i'll be bugging you with updates again :) | 17:24 |
| th1a | Please. | 17:25 |
| replaceafill | and since i'm in the mall, i'll go look for buying an external monitor ;) | 17:25 |
| * replaceafill done | 17:25 | |
| th1a | PLEASE! | 17:25 |
| th1a | Thanks! | 17:26 |
| th1a | menesis? | 17:26 |
| menesis | I was busy with another project, and have not yet started releasing | 17:26 |
| th1a | OK. Have you talked to Laurynas about having time for SchoolTool for the next month or so? | 17:28 |
| menesis | yes, I am sharing between two projects | 17:29 |
| menesis | he promised to press me to work on schooltool because deadlines are close | 17:30 |
| th1a | OK, good. | 17:31 |
| th1a | Thanks menesis. | 17:32 |
| th1a | Thanks guys. | 17:32 |
| th1a | See you Monday. | 17:32 |
| th1a | Have a good week/end. | 17:32 |
| * th1a drops the bag of gravel. | 17:32 | |
| replaceafill | thanks everybody | 17:33 |
| yvl | thanks guys | 17:33 |
| yvl | see you Mon | 17:33 |
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| jelkner | pgulley, to speed things up, i'll go and paste the agenda items now... | 21:54 |
| pgulley | alright | 21:55 |
| jelkner | 1. Teacher updated scores should not be overwritten by machine generated ones. | 21:55 |
| jelkner | 2. Gradebook worksheet improvement - who does it and when? | 21:56 |
| jelkner | 3. Rolling out the students can request individual practice feature. | 21:56 |
| jelkner | 4. Chrome js bug preventing skills associations to quiz items. | 21:57 |
| jelkner | 5. Work flow for evaluating students who take a quiz long after the | 21:57 |
| jelkner | rest of the group. | 21:57 |
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| replaceafill | good afternoon jelkner pgulley | 21:58 |
| pgulley | afternoon replaceafill! | 21:58 |
| jelkner | 6. Loading new skills sets brakes all previous skills associations. | 21:58 |
| jelkner | Good afternoon replaceafill! | 21:58 |
| jelkner | I just pasted the agenda, to help me focus. | 21:58 |
| replaceafill | ok | 21:59 |
| jelkner | The first 5 items were loaded before you joined | 21:59 |
| jelkner | can you see them? | 21:59 |
| jelkner | or should i paste them again? | 21:59 |
| replaceafill | hhmm no, let me get the logs | 21:59 |
| jelkner | 1. Teacher updated scores should not be overwritten by machine generated ones. | 21:59 |
| jelkner | 2. Gradebook worksheet improvement - who does it and when? | 21:59 |
| jelkner | 3. Rolling out the students can request individual practice feature. | 21:59 |
| jelkner | 4. Chrome js bug preventing skills associations to quiz items. | 21:59 |
| jelkner | 5. Work flow for evaluating students who take a quiz long after the | 21:59 |
| jelkner | rest of the group. | 21:59 |
| jelkner | 6. Loading new skills sets brakes all previous skills associations. | 21:59 |
| replaceafill | ok, thanks :) | 21:59 |
| jelkner | we should aim to keep this short | 22:00 |
| jelkner | (there is work to be done! ;-) | 22:00 |
| replaceafill | ah ok, sure | 22:00 |
| jelkner | but we need to figure out how to prioritize | 22:00 |
| jelkner | quick question on 4. | 22:00 |
| jelkner | is that something pgulley should just do? | 22:00 |
| jelkner | since it is the only thing that makes this not usable from chrome | 22:01 |
| replaceafill | no, that one is done | 22:01 |
| jelkner | really? | 22:01 |
| replaceafill | i just need to look for that branch | 22:01 |
| jelkner | ahh | 22:01 |
| jelkner | cause it was still there a few minutes ago | 22:01 |
| jelkner | when i tried it | 22:01 |
| replaceafill | i mean, i have to deploy it in your instance | 22:01 |
| replaceafill | and commit the fix to trunk | 22:01 |
| replaceafill | but 4 is done | 22:02 |
| jelkner | ok how about we talk about 1 | 22:02 |
| jelkner | i need that next | 22:02 |
| replaceafill | ok | 22:02 |
| jelkner | and pgulley wants to run something by you. | 22:02 |
| replaceafill | sure | 22:02 |
| pgulley | replaceafill, we had spoken about this one, I just wasn't sure | 22:02 |
| replaceafill | yes | 22:02 |
| pgulley | It would be as simple as setting the evaluator on auto-updated evaluations to "None", or some such | 22:03 |
| replaceafill | what about using the last evaluator to compare? | 22:03 |
| pgulley | right | 22:03 |
| replaceafill | if the last evaluator is not None, the feature skips that cell | 22:03 |
| pgulley | that's what I thought | 22:03 |
| pgulley | I was just uneasy about setting that to None- | 22:03 |
| pgulley | I've had nightmares about the bugs it could cause | 22:04 |
| replaceafill | well, it is right now | 22:04 |
| pgulley | Currently, the logged in user is set as the evaluator when 'update skills' is run. | 22:04 |
| pgulley | unless that's changed? | 22:04 |
| pgulley | regardless, it's a simple thing to fix, if you don't think it would break things. | 22:04 |
| replaceafill | what happens when a student answers a quiz deployed to a section? | 22:05 |
| replaceafill | have you seen the evaluator then | 22:05 |
| pgulley | No- | 22:05 |
| replaceafill | i mean, in the answered evaluation | 22:05 |
| replaceafill | it's set to None iirc | 22:05 |
| pgulley | yes, that part is true. | 22:05 |
| pgulley | but the evaluation we'd be checking isn't the answered evaluation, it's the evaluation containing the skill data | 22:06 |
| replaceafill | imho it's the same thing | 22:07 |
| replaceafill | and gradebook history supports that | 22:07 |
| pgulley | alright | 22:07 |
| replaceafill | i'd say is the fastest route to that | 22:07 |
| replaceafill | and a good/strong test for that would allow refactoring later | 22:08 |
| replaceafill | if any issue comes up | 22:08 |
| pgulley | okay, perfect. That's that. | 22:08 |
| replaceafill | kk | 22:08 |
| jelkner | cool | 22:08 |
| jelkner | next issue... | 22:08 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, can you describe what the improvement means? | 22:09 |
| jelkner | 6. Loading new skills sets brakes all previous skills associations. | 22:09 |
| replaceafill | oh sorry | 22:09 |
| replaceafill | never mind | 22:09 |
| jelkner | which improvement? | 22:09 |
| jelkner | gradebook? | 22:09 |
| replaceafill | never mind | 22:09 |
| replaceafill | i thought we were going to 2. | 22:09 |
| jelkner | i'm not sure what order to take these in | 22:09 |
| jelkner | and some of them are related | 22:09 |
| jelkner | let me back up a minute... | 22:10 |
| jelkner | when we started this Summer's work, we said the "big story" was student initiated practice. | 22:10 |
| jelkner | while i would still love to see that at some point, i'm realizing there are even more pressing matters that may have to be resolved first. | 22:11 |
| jelkner | the success of our effort depends on expanding the pilot next year. | 22:11 |
| replaceafill | i understand | 22:11 |
| jelkner | so i've been talking to my colleagues a lot about what they need to use ST as their SIS. | 22:11 |
| jelkner | that's where the gradebook story comes from | 22:12 |
| jelkner | Sean mentioned it to me on Monday when I met with him. | 22:12 |
| jelkner | We are using worksheets to separate quizzes from homework from projects, etc. | 22:12 |
| jelkner | We need a more powerful summary sheet | 22:12 |
| jelkner | that allow us to produce a final grade from weighted worksheets | 22:13 |
| replaceafill | but if i understand your request correctly, weightable worksheets are not enough? | 22:13 |
| jelkner | we need that by Fall. | 22:13 |
| jelkner | weightable worksheets are enough | 22:13 |
| jelkner | but we don't have them, right? | 22:13 |
| replaceafill | right | 22:13 |
| jelkner | so that's the issue | 22:13 |
| jelkner | we need them by september | 22:14 |
| replaceafill | i started on that story though | 22:14 |
| jelkner | cool | 22:14 |
| replaceafill | i even remember showing it in a devs meeting | 22:14 |
| jelkner | so maybe we don't need to discuss it here | 22:14 |
| jelkner | i'm only asking because sean brought it up | 22:14 |
| replaceafill | but from your google doc, i understood differently | 22:14 |
| jelkner | and it is very important to him | 22:14 |
| jelkner | (me too) | 22:14 |
| jelkner | differently how? | 22:14 |
| replaceafill | i understood you wanted to produce a final grade based on "a rule" | 22:15 |
| replaceafill | i focused on the "rule" part i guess | 22:15 |
| jelkner | ahh yes | 22:16 |
| replaceafill | that meant custom scoresystem in my head | 22:16 |
| jelkner | that's because of this use case: i have quizzes that get a percent | 22:16 |
| jelkner | and projects that get 4, 3, 2, 1, 0 | 22:16 |
| jelkner | A, B, C, D, E | 22:16 |
| jelkner | so yes, that's an issue | 22:17 |
| replaceafill | right | 22:17 |
| jelkner | let's say tests and quizzes are 50 percent | 22:17 |
| jelkner | and you have a combined "average" of 75 percent | 22:17 |
| jelkner | that's a C | 22:17 |
| jelkner | but if you also have a "C" on projects | 22:18 |
| jelkner | your "average" will be 50 | 22:18 |
| jelkner | a 2 | 22:18 |
| jelkner | of 4 | 22:18 |
| jelkner | we want a C to be the result | 22:18 |
| jelkner | not a D | 22:18 |
| jelkner | Anyway, that is less important | 22:19 |
| replaceafill | ok | 22:19 |
| jelkner | let's move on | 22:19 |
| jelkner | i'll talk to you more about this later | 22:19 |
| replaceafill | i still *think* a custom score system will solve it | 22:19 |
| jelkner | it will | 22:19 |
| replaceafill | but i'd have to try it and see | 22:19 |
| replaceafill | ok | 22:19 |
| jelkner | i'll be more than willing to help you think that through | 22:19 |
| jelkner | ok, now the biggest issue... | 22:20 |
| jelkner | evaluations are not "sticky" | 22:20 |
| jelkner | i mean skills | 22:20 |
| replaceafill | you mean, when you "reload" they're gone? | 22:20 |
| replaceafill | that's correct | 22:20 |
| jelkner | this is even more important to solve this summer than student initiated quizzes | 22:20 |
| jelkner | i've already had the unpleasant experience this summer of having to reassociate my quiz items with skills on several occassions | 22:21 |
| replaceafill | i know what you mean | 22:21 |
| replaceafill | and unfortunately, i can't explain the how, not the why :( | 22:22 |
| jelkner | i'm glad now for this unpleasantness, since it helped me focus on the even bigger problem | 22:22 |
| jelkner | the power of what we are building is in the data | 22:22 |
| replaceafill | i got used to the 2011 way of assigning skills | 22:22 |
| replaceafill | but it's not like that anymore | 22:22 |
| jelkner | a good geometry skills list combined with a rich set of assessment items linked to those skills. | 22:22 |
| jelkner | we need to somehow "package" that | 22:23 |
| jelkner | i can't have to reassociate the items with the skills each time | 22:23 |
| replaceafill | but that's basically what happens to your section | 22:23 |
| jelkner | in fact, i need to be able to distribute this work to my colleagues pre-packaged | 22:23 |
| replaceafill | quiz is just following that model | 22:23 |
| replaceafill | i mean, cando is the one resetting the skill | 22:24 |
| jelkner | well, i'm saying i can't think of anything more important than fixing that somehow | 22:24 |
| jelkner | even if it means we put off student initiated quizzes for another year | 22:24 |
| jelkner | again, i'm thinking of the pilot | 22:24 |
| jelkner | i go to the arlington mill teachers next year | 22:24 |
| replaceafill | i think you'll need to address th1a on this one | 22:24 |
| pgulley | jelkner, with all due respect, I'm not sure this problem is really within my scope | 22:25 |
| pgulley | replaceafill- when you export quiz items, are skills saved in the exported file? | 22:27 |
| replaceafill | pgulley, no | 22:27 |
| pgulley | alright | 22:28 |
| pgulley | could they be? | 22:28 |
| replaceafill | that feature was developed way before we attach skills | 22:28 |
| pgulley | right right, yes. | 22:28 |
| pgulley | Because there could be some shuffling around | 22:28 |
| pgulley | that could preserve those things? | 22:28 |
| pgulley | I feel like I'm grasping at straws. | 22:29 |
| replaceafill | the problem with import/export is that assumes you're starting fresh in the *other* system | 22:29 |
| replaceafill | the original intent of import/export (quiz side) was just to take items from one instance to another | 22:30 |
| replaceafill | to recreate the quiz | 22:30 |
| replaceafill | things have changed lately | 22:30 |
| replaceafill | we have skills and images | 22:30 |
| pgulley | So, what's to be done? | 22:32 |
| pgulley | if we change the import/export feature to include skills (and images?) | 22:32 |
| replaceafill | the problem is that you can't assume anything from the other instance | 22:32 |
| pgulley | then include a failsafe- | 22:33 |
| replaceafill | unless you are willing to say "sorry, i can't import this because you don't have this skill set" | 22:33 |
| replaceafill | or "you need this skill set for this quiz items to work" | 22:33 |
| replaceafill | and how do you identify the skill set? | 22:33 |
| replaceafill | by label | 22:33 |
| replaceafill | by title | 22:33 |
| replaceafill | by id? | 22:33 |
| pgulley | id? | 22:33 |
| replaceafill | right | 22:34 |
| replaceafill | what if it doesn't exist? | 22:34 |
| pgulley | 'oops!' | 22:34 |
| replaceafill | how does the user in the second instance knows what exact skill set to import | 22:34 |
| pgulley | perhaps, set the quizitem's skill to None by default? | 22:34 |
| replaceafill | see my point? | 22:35 |
| pgulley | right | 22:35 |
| pgulley | I understand completely the issues here. | 22:35 |
| pgulley | it's a rats nest. | 22:35 |
| replaceafill | +1 | 22:35 |
| jelkner | a steaming pile of dung! | 22:35 |
| replaceafill | :D | 22:35 |
| pgulley | but at the same time- something needs to give, no? | 22:35 |
| replaceafill | i mean, it's possible, this is software :) | 22:35 |
| jelkner | but wade into it we must | 22:35 |
| replaceafill | but it wouldn't be 100% reliable | 22:36 |
| jelkner | well, i'm in favor of the unix philosophy here | 22:36 |
| jelkner | if it works for 90% of the cases and its simple enough, let's do it | 22:36 |
| replaceafill | i'd vote for checking ids | 22:36 |
| jelkner | because honestly, without skills associted, quiz items don't have much use in this system | 22:37 |
| replaceafill | if the stuff the importer needs doesn't exist, it fails | 22:37 |
| replaceafill | simple | 22:37 |
| pgulley | right. | 22:37 |
| replaceafill | then the user in the second instance can ask the original user "what do i need to import" | 22:37 |
| pgulley | It sort of raises the question of managing imports | 22:37 |
| replaceafill | and jelkner helps the second instance user ;) | 22:37 |
| pgulley | haha. Schooltool.jelkner.help() | 22:38 |
| jelkner | i'll be here next year to do just that ;-) | 22:38 |
| replaceafill | ok, skill sets have ids | 22:38 |
| replaceafill | skillsets contain skills | 22:38 |
| replaceafill | skills have ids (or at least __name__s) | 22:38 |
| jelkner | this is sounding good | 22:38 |
| replaceafill | pgulley, could put that logic in place imho? | 22:38 |
| jelkner | it means later we can evolve skills sets | 22:39 |
| pgulley | yes- it should be simple. | 22:39 |
| jelkner | but doing some transformation | 22:39 |
| pgulley | (not touching images, I presume...) | 22:39 |
| jelkner | right | 22:39 |
| pgulley | So when new skill sets are loaded into the system | 22:39 |
| replaceafill | images could use the same logic | 22:39 |
| replaceafill | there's now a link between an image object | 22:40 |
| replaceafill | and a quiz item | 22:40 |
| pgulley | we export those quizzes, then import the new skills, then reimport the old quizitems (with skill associations still intact). | 22:40 |
| replaceafill | yes, something along those lines | 22:41 |
| pgulley | then deployed quizzes and answered evaluations also keep those associations? | 22:42 |
| replaceafill | answered evaluations?!?! | 22:43 |
| pgulley | well | 22:43 |
| pgulley | right? | 22:43 |
| replaceafill | wait, we're not exporting grades, right? | 22:43 |
| pgulley | no no no | 22:43 |
| pgulley | no | 22:43 |
| pgulley | no no | 22:43 |
| pgulley | I was speaking before thinking | 22:44 |
| pgulley | that connection is entierly in code, not in data | 22:44 |
| jelkner | gentleman, am i dismissed? | 22:45 |
| replaceafill | jelkner, so, what's the plan? :) | 22:46 |
| replaceafill | 1 is decided | 22:46 |
| replaceafill | 2. not so much | 22:46 |
| jelkner | the plan is that the ability to save all the work teacher's do creating these resources trumps all other concerns | 22:46 |
| replaceafill | 3 is deferred i think | 22:47 |
| replaceafill | 4. i need to deploy that | 22:47 |
| jelkner | so we don't need to talk about student initiated assessments or the other work flow issues until such time as we address this more important story | 22:47 |
| replaceafill | 5 we didn't discuss | 22:47 |
| jelkner | 5 and 3 are related | 22:47 |
| jelkner | so we defer that too | 22:47 |
| pgulley | well, sort of | 22:47 |
| pgulley | but it can still be deferred | 22:47 |
| replaceafill | so i think pgulley should start asap on 1. | 22:48 |
| jelkner | yup | 22:48 |
| jelkner | agreed | 22:48 |
| pgulley | I'll jump into that stinking pile of dung tomorrow morning | 22:48 |
| jelkner | thanks, gentleman | 22:48 |
| replaceafill | thanks jelkner pgulley | 22:49 |
| jelkner | let's check in again next week | 22:49 |
| pgulley | thanks, all. | 22:49 |
| replaceafill | pgulley, let me know if you need anything from me | 22:49 |
| jelkner | to see how this shit unfolds | 22:49 |
| pgulley | replaceafill, oh don't worry. I will. | 22:49 |
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| replaceafill | pgulley, it's not entirely clear in my head either, so... :) | 22:49 |
| pgulley | haha, we'll see how it goes. | 22:50 |
| replaceafill | see you pgulley | 22:50 |
| pgulley | likewise, have a good evening! | 22:51 |
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