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| alfredoparisi | hi, is it possible to view the full calendar for the user without login? | 10:42 |
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| th1a | hi replaceafill, aelkner, yvl, menesis. | 16:31 |
| replaceafill | good morning/afternoon | 16:31 |
| th1a | How was your flight home replaceafill? | 16:31 |
| replaceafill | good, no problems at all :) | 16:31 |
| replaceafill | slept from 4 pm - 6 am :D | 16:32 |
| replaceafill | i didn't sleep the night before... | 16:32 |
| replaceafill | th1a, just sent you an email about labels | 16:33 |
| th1a | Oh, so it is everything BUT the gradebook? | 16:34 |
| replaceafill | i think so | 16:34 |
| th1a | I don't think Glenda actually said anything about the gradebook. | 16:34 |
| replaceafill | right | 16:34 |
| th1a | I think that was my interjection. | 16:34 |
| replaceafill | but the gradebook "looks" wrong | 16:34 |
| th1a | OK, so basically a bunch of views need to be fixed. | 16:34 |
| replaceafill | because it's showing "old" sorting | 16:34 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:34 |
| replaceafill | and i have to confirm the sections skills not being updated | 16:34 |
| replaceafill | (but i think that's the case) | 16:35 |
| replaceafill | i'll work on all of this today, ok? | 16:36 |
| replaceafill | ah, and check the traceback dwelsh reported | 16:36 |
| replaceafill | about the one teacher | 16:36 |
| th1a | Yes. | 16:36 |
| replaceafill | i'm copying dwelsh latest Data.fs right now | 16:36 |
| replaceafill | ok | 16:36 |
| th1a | Anything else replaceafill? | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | ah | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | one question | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | i think aelkner can help me | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | i'll need to update dwelsh skills | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | i'm not sure, but i think we have only imported the first ones (with wrong verso sorting) | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | do i need to run your script aelkner? | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | i don't remember that procedure very well | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | or maybe lee created a new xls that can be used? | 16:41 |
| th1a | aelkner? | 16:44 |
| replaceafill | well, i'm done | 16:46 |
| th1a | You could check what lee has on the CTE site now. | 16:46 |
| th1a | Thanks replaceafill. | 16:46 |
| th1a | Do you have anything new menesis? | 16:46 |
| menesis | new? not really | 16:47 |
| menesis | I have tried trystack on Monday | 16:47 |
| menesis | but after many tries could not deploy a charm there | 16:48 |
| menesis | I get a 404 error somewhere | 16:48 |
| menesis | I suspect problem on their side. using openstack connector. there is also ec2 connector, but download config times out | 16:49 |
| th1a | I'm feeling like JuJu is too raw at this point. | 16:49 |
| menesis | I only missed documentation what a control-bucket is | 16:50 |
| menesis | but the problem I had is more with trystack than juju | 16:50 |
| menesis | in local container it works | 16:51 |
| th1a | I think if you wanted to use it now you'd pretty much need to stick with Amazon. | 16:51 |
| menesis | I should try to set up a personal cloud | 16:52 |
| menesis | but haven't yet | 16:52 |
| th1a | You mean, other than just the local container? | 16:52 |
| menesis | yes | 16:53 |
| menesis | I have submitted a bug to register schooltool in the charm store | 16:54 |
| menesis | https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+bug/1077951 | 16:55 |
| th1a | Well... I'd say if you aren't ready to give up and let JuJu marinate for six months, the thing I'd be curious about would be setting up a connector. | 16:55 |
| menesis | but no comments yet | 16:55 |
| menesis | connector to? | 16:56 |
| menesis | sendmail? ldap? | 16:56 |
| th1a | I'd say whatever makes the most sense and is straightforward to you. | 16:57 |
| th1a | This is more a technology exploration than anything else. | 16:59 |
| menesis | okay.. | 16:59 |
| menesis | yes I explored some | 16:59 |
| menesis | many command line tools and terms that I didn't know | 17:00 |
| replaceafill | on my way home i tried to create a webapp for unity + schooltool :D | 17:00 |
| menesis | :) | 17:01 |
| menesis | webapp? the new thing in ubuntu 12.10? | 17:01 |
| replaceafill | yes | 17:01 |
| replaceafill | to integrate the dash | 17:01 |
| th1a | Ah... | 17:01 |
| th1a | Hm... | 17:01 |
| replaceafill | they have some for lp | 17:01 |
| replaceafill | gmail, yahoo, etc | 17:02 |
| th1a | Well, that would be good for a tablet. | 17:02 |
| menesis | I haven't seen webapps yet | 17:02 |
| menesis | my main browser is google chrome that is not supported | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | ah | 17:03 |
| th1a | Searching for a student from the dash, that's the kind of thing you're referring to, replaceafill? | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | well, you can do a lot of things, but yes | 17:04 |
| th1a | Unity works nicely with multiple monitors in Quantal, btw. | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | i was trying to just logging in in my first try | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | i was able to install it :D | 17:04 |
| th1a | More than just making an icon for the dock. | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | right, that's pretty simple (the icon part) | 17:05 |
| menesis | so what you tried to create? a scope? | 17:05 |
| replaceafill | is that what they're called? | 17:06 |
| replaceafill | the one you get in the HUD | 17:06 |
| replaceafill | when you type commands | 17:06 |
| replaceafill | ALT + start typing | 17:06 |
| th1a | Hm. So we could send notifications? | 17:07 |
| replaceafill | to me, they're mostly shortcuts | 17:08 |
| menesis | oh, for the HUD | 17:08 |
| replaceafill | you type SchoolTool -> Persons | 17:08 |
| replaceafill | and you got to persons automatically | 17:08 |
| replaceafill | go* | 17:08 |
| menesis | interesting | 17:09 |
| replaceafill | i really like those :) | 17:09 |
| replaceafill | and they're all JS | 17:09 |
| replaceafill | so really easy to code | 17:09 |
| menesis | :) | 17:09 |
| replaceafill | and you can test them! | 17:09 |
| replaceafill | i didn't get that far ;) | 17:10 |
| th1a | In practice, what it would be for is jumping straight to looking up a specific kid (if you're an administrator, say, getting ready for a meeting with parents) | 17:10 |
| th1a | or quickly getting to a specific form for a teacher to enter data. | 17:10 |
| replaceafill | th1a, i was thinking of that | 17:10 |
| menesis | don't think search for content goes into the HUD | 17:10 |
| replaceafill | and we could use the same approach we use for tests in selenium | 17:11 |
| menesis | it is an alternative for menu | 17:11 |
| replaceafill | like searching text | 17:11 |
| replaceafill | but i have to try, not sure if it's possible | 17:11 |
| th1a | I don't think it is very important until we have Ubuntu tablets. | 17:11 |
| replaceafill | or free time on another flight :D | 17:11 |
| th1a | Messaging could be useful though. | 17:11 |
| menesis | yeah whatever integration in ubuntu we can do | 17:12 |
| th1a | On the other side of things, I may have to order one of these: https://www.miniand.com/products/MK803%20Android%20Mini%20PC#specifications | 17:13 |
| replaceafill | messaging + background processing + reports :D | 17:13 |
| menesis | I guess mobile view will be needed shortly | 17:13 |
| th1a | They have an ubuntu image. | 17:13 |
| th1a | Right, "Your report is done." | 17:13 |
| menesis | with tablets in the schools getting popular | 17:13 |
| th1a | Yes, eventually. | 17:14 |
| th1a | Or just apps. | 17:14 |
| th1a | OK. Thanks menesis. | 17:15 |
| menesis | :) | 17:15 |
| menesis | I have also looked at the cando code (for the sorting problem) | 17:15 |
| menesis | but I see replaceafill is on it | 17:16 |
| * menesis done | 17:16 | |
| th1a | Thanks menesis. :-) | 17:16 |
| th1a | OK, aelkner, did yvl's email help? | 17:17 |
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| th1a | aelkner, ayt? | 17:20 |
| * th1a is calling... | 17:23 | |
| replaceafill | if case someone wants to throw up with a lousy presentator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC6SYGtW9Go | 17:23 |
| replaceafill | :D | 17:23 |
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| th1a | Ah. | 17:24 |
| th1a | OK, I guess aelkner isn't feeling well. | 17:24 |
| th1a | Thus we are done. | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | feel better aelkner | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | :) | 17:24 |
| th1a | Hopefully aelkner and yvl are going to meet without me on reports tomorrow. You might want to get in on that replaceafill if you can get up early again. | 17:27 |
| th1a | And we'll let you know about Friday. | 17:27 |
| replaceafill | th1a, ah sure | 17:27 |
| th1a | Basically you're just going to have to follow along with the discussion until we get all the CanDo loose ends fixed. | 17:27 |
| replaceafill | got it | 17:28 |
| * replaceafill is getting lots of spam from send2@list.webbuilding.ru | 17:29 | |
| th1a | oh... | 17:35 |
| * th1a drops the bag of gravel. | 17:35 | |
| th1a | ;-) | 17:35 |
| th1a | Have a good week/end, replaceafill & menesis. | 17:35 |
| replaceafill | thanks guys | 17:35 |
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| aelkner | th1a, hey | 18:13 |
| th1a | hi aelkner. | 18:14 |
| aelkner | so i read yvl's instructions and i'll try them out today | 18:15 |
| th1a | OK. | 18:15 |
| th1a | Let me know how it goes. | 18:15 |
| aelkner | sure | 18:15 |
| aelkner | replaceafill, do you still need help with the xls file? | 18:15 |
| th1a | Did you make any progress on a core report yesterday? | 18:15 |
| aelkner | i started, but nothing to show yet | 18:16 |
| aelkner | did you see matt's email? | 18:16 |
| aelkner | i asked him to talk to welsh about the issue as well, but i don't know if he has | 18:17 |
| aelkner | the question is: is it ok to have different settings for the passing scores? | 18:18 |
| th1a | I'll reply. | 18:19 |
| aelkner | i mean, does the state recognize the value of the reports on competency completion | 18:19 |
| aelkner | if the standard for which scores are passing varies from county to county | 18:19 |
| aelkner | then, if it is in fact ok to have a different standard, how do we support that | 18:20 |
| th1a | replaceafill: Can you set the cutoff in the text version of the report? | 18:20 |
| th1a | (as you can in the graphical) | 18:20 |
| replaceafill | no | 18:20 |
| replaceafill | cuttoff = 80%, right? | 18:20 |
| aelkner | anyway, thanks for replying to the email, and we'll see what welsh and glenda have to say | 18:20 |
| th1a | I mean, passing score. | 18:21 |
| replaceafill | th1a, then yes | 18:21 |
| th1a | ok. | 18:21 |
| replaceafill | by default uses minimum passing score | 18:21 |
| replaceafill | do they want to "save" the value? | 18:21 |
| replaceafill | as in, use the same every time you access the report? | 18:22 |
| replaceafill | (i remember that was a question at some point) | 18:22 |
| aelkner | this discussion sounds related to matt's email | 18:22 |
| th1a | Well, we need to let you set custom score systems in CanDo. That's the real issue. | 18:22 |
| aelkner | yeah, well have that scoresystems branch out there that i created a while back | 18:23 |
| th1a | Yes, that needs to be finished. | 18:23 |
| th1a | Look, Matt doesn't understand that it isn't a problem in the current CanDo for him. | 18:24 |
| th1a | It's ok. | 18:24 |
| replaceafill | aelkner, i still need your help | 18:25 |
| aelkner | replaceafill, sure | 18:25 |
| aelkner | th1a, i'll let you advance the points in the email thread | 18:25 |
| replaceafill | hold on, let me check something :) | 18:25 |
| aelkner | perhaps welsh and glenda can add to a concenss on the subject | 18:25 |
| aelkner | concensus | 18:25 |
| th1a | aelkner: It is under control. | 18:26 |
| aelkner | i'm not nervous, i'm just trying to support matt | 18:26 |
| aelkner | i'm sure you have it under control | 18:26 |
| replaceafill | aelkner, ok, confirmed | 18:27 |
| aelkner | replaceafill, do you have the link to their apache server handy, where they post the xls file? | 18:27 |
| replaceafill | dwelsh server is using the first xls import | 18:27 |
| replaceafill | ah i just closed that tab :D | 18:28 |
| replaceafill | let me get it | 18:28 |
| aelkner | so dwelsh server still has skills with unsorted labels? | 18:28 |
| replaceafill | http://cando.cteresource.org/Import_Templates/ | 18:28 |
| replaceafill | aelkner, right | 18:28 |
| replaceafill | aelkner, is it a matter of just importing the latest xls? | 18:28 |
| replaceafill | or do i need to run the script you wrote? | 18:28 |
| aelkner | i'm currently downloading the xls file so i can check it | 18:29 |
| replaceafill | kk | 18:29 |
| aelkner | ok, it seems that lee has not pdated the site to have the new xls file with the skilllset external ids | 18:30 |
| aelkner | he has already run the script, so i don't know why he hasn't posted the results | 18:31 |
| replaceafill | right, i saw glenda mentioned some new_...xls file that is not there | 18:31 |
| aelkner | yeah, we need to get an update on the status of their use of the xls files | 18:31 |
| replaceafill | "I have re-imported both the current online verso_skills.xls file (dated 10/19), one dated 10/22/12 called new_verso_skills.xls, and one dated 11/13/12 called new_verso_skills.xls" | 18:32 |
| replaceafill | i'll ask glenda where to get the new ones | 18:32 |
| aelkner | right, ask her | 18:33 |
| replaceafill | kk | 18:33 |
| aelkner | i'll talk to them later to see about getting the new xls file to be the current | 18:33 |
| replaceafill | once i have the new_...xls, i just have to reimport, correct? | 18:33 |
| aelkner | that's right, please backup the Data.fs just in case, but the idea is that reimport must work | 18:34 |
| aelkner | because people have already imported the old file | 18:34 |
| replaceafill | ah ok, will do | 18:34 |
| aelkner | the new file should not change any existing skills except their labels | 18:34 |
| aelkner | and it adds the external ids to the skillsets so that future runs of getverso.py would be able to match on external id | 18:35 |
| aelkner | though i need to update getverso.py to use the external ids | 18:42 |
| aelkner | i just need them to make the new file current before i can do that | 18:42 |
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| th1a | replaceafill: Just sent you an email. | 21:46 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 21:46 |
| replaceafill | th1a, looks good to me | 21:51 |
| th1a | Right tone? | 21:52 |
| replaceafill | yeah, i think it's moderate :D | 21:52 |
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