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| th1a | replaceafill: We should get an example of the roster report to Ismael: https://answers.launchpad.net/schooltool/+question/197286 | 17:58 |
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| replaceafill | ah ok | 17:58 |
| replaceafill | i'll set up an instance with it and paste the url in the question page | 17:58 |
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| replaceafill | th1a, zyt? | 23:24 |
| th1a | hi replaceafill. | 23:27 |
| replaceafill | hey th1a | 23:27 |
| replaceafill | good meeting today | 23:27 |
| replaceafill | i'll send you an email with the details | 23:27 |
| replaceafill | i have a cando gradebook question | 23:27 |
| th1a | I have one for you too. | 23:27 |
| replaceafill | yesterday, David asked for the Skills Gradebook to be the default | 23:28 |
| replaceafill | i was thinking that if the course doesn't have skills assigned, we send the user to the Projects Gradebook | 23:28 |
| replaceafill | i guess that's ok? | 23:29 |
| th1a | That is sensible. | 23:29 |
| replaceafill | but my question is more related to the navigators | 23:29 |
| replaceafill | the dropdowns | 23:29 |
| replaceafill | on the left | 23:29 |
| replaceafill | if you're in the skills gradebook | 23:29 |
| replaceafill | they should take you only to other skills gradebooks? | 23:29 |
| replaceafill | i think they should follow the same logic, right? | 23:30 |
| th1a | I would imagine... | 23:30 |
| replaceafill | (the one i explain above) | 23:30 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 23:30 |
| th1a | Unless there is another reason. | 23:30 |
| replaceafill | just checking | 23:30 |
| replaceafill | :) | 23:30 |
| replaceafill | i'll change that | 23:30 |
| replaceafill | what's your question? | 23:31 |
| th1a | Mine is harder. | 23:31 |
| th1a | Perhaps impossible. | 23:31 |
| th1a | So I was wondering if changes in the project gradebook could show up in the skills gradebook view, but not vice versa. | 23:31 |
| th1a | That is changes to the skills gradebook would not automatically show up in the project view. | 23:32 |
| th1a | So if you scored a project, and then subsequently assigned a score in the skills gradebook, it wouldn't be reflected in the project gradebook. | 23:32 |
| replaceafill | so far, in the project gradebook, the user has to create the skill to grade | 23:33 |
| replaceafill | i think we're going to change that so the user only selects | 23:33 |
| replaceafill | instead of creating | 23:33 |
| replaceafill | right? | 23:33 |
| th1a | oh, yes. | 23:33 |
| replaceafill | we could duplicate the skill? | 23:33 |
| replaceafill | in the project worksheet | 23:34 |
| replaceafill | based on the skills assigned | 23:34 |
| th1a | My assumption is that it would be common to appear in both. | 23:34 |
| th1a | I guess that's not necessarily Welsh's view. | 23:34 |
| th1a | But that's the way we would have done it in our school. | 23:35 |
| replaceafill | i was looking at projects only as a way to organize course skills | 23:35 |
| replaceafill | that the teacher has control on | 23:35 |
| th1a | Skills that are already in the course? | 23:35 |
| replaceafill | yes | 23:35 |
| th1a | OK, we're saying the same thing. | 23:35 |
| replaceafill | that's not David's view? | 23:36 |
| replaceafill | at some point i thought of this: | 23:36 |
| replaceafill | do you remember the "Add activity" form in the gradebook? | 23:36 |
| th1a | OK, never mind what his view is. | 23:36 |
| replaceafill | it has a third-nav | 23:36 |
| replaceafill | where you can create a regular activiy, a linked column or an external activity | 23:37 |
| th1a | Basically, can we have those two views show separate scores? | 23:37 |
| replaceafill | the evaluation stores the activity that you're grading | 23:38 |
| replaceafill | you want two different evaluations | 23:38 |
| replaceafill | so you'd need two different skills | 23:38 |
| replaceafill | or "objects" | 23:38 |
| replaceafill | that was aelkner's point yesterday | 23:39 |
| replaceafill | about two sections sharing skills | 23:39 |
| th1a | Do you know how the history keeps the sequence of scores? | 23:39 |
| replaceafill | let me see | 23:41 |
| replaceafill | it's a list on the Evaluations adapter | 23:42 |
| replaceafill | everytime you set something on the adapter (you evaluate something) the history is modified | 23:42 |
| th1a | OK, but you can't really connect a cell to one of those scores though. | 23:43 |
| replaceafill | actually, it's a tree of lists | 23:45 |
| replaceafill | because you need to store different activities | 23:45 |
| th1a | Uh... | 23:49 |
| th1a | Yeah this isn't something that VA is concerned with but I think it is a pretty serious mis-feature. | 23:50 |
| th1a | Could we beef up the history so that a cell could be associated with a specific score in the history? | 23:51 |
| th1a | Or... something. | 23:51 |
| th1a | The main idea here is that a score in the context of a project should not be overwritten by other scores in other contexts. | 23:52 |
| th1a | Whereas the skillset gradebook doesn't have that restriction. | 23:52 |
| * th1a goes to put dinner in the oven. | 23:52 | |
| replaceafill | :) | 23:52 |
| * replaceafill wonders if the location proxies could help here... | 23:55 | |
| replaceafill | even though it's the same skill, somehow lying about its path (different parent worksheet)... | 23:56 |
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