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| th1a | Sorry I ran behind today. | 16:36 |
| th1a | Hi aelkner_, replaceafill. | 16:37 |
| replaceafill | good morning | 16:37 |
| th1a | I guess it is morning for everyone. | 16:37 |
| aelkner_ | morning | 16:37 |
| th1a | OK... what's up gentlemen? | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | th1a http://69.164.203.135:6660/settings | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | i added the calendar settings to the index page and removed the sidebar link | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | i also started Errors | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | doesn't fully work yet | 16:40 |
| th1a | Put Calendar at bottom and make a link instead of pencil. | 16:40 |
| th1a | Actually, put server information at top. | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | Server, mail, calendar | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | i have a question for the Pack database modification | 16:41 |
| th1a | If we're going to go this far, we might as well put the hostname under email on /settings | 16:41 |
| replaceafill | ah | 16:41 |
| replaceafill | will do | 16:41 |
| th1a | Where are we with journal? | 16:42 |
| * th1a senses replaceafill is trying to dodge the journal... | 16:42 | |
| replaceafill | ah, i finished the sync and fixed keyboard navigation | 16:42 |
| replaceafill | th1a no, not at al | 16:42 |
| replaceafill | l | 16:42 |
| replaceafill | :) | 16:42 |
| replaceafill | it works now | 16:42 |
| th1a | Hm... why don't I have a tab for it? | 16:43 |
| replaceafill | we only need a way to get to the appropriate section from the Journal tab | 16:43 |
| replaceafill | th1a it's because it doesnt work yet | 16:44 |
| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135:6660/schoolyears/2010/q1/sections/1/journal | 16:44 |
| replaceafill | (the tabe) | 16:44 |
| replaceafill | (the tab) | 16:44 |
| replaceafill | tom:tom | 16:44 |
| replaceafill | for the url | 16:44 |
| th1a | OK... lets finish the journal first. | 16:46 |
| replaceafill | i think popup menus is the last thing missing, correct? | 16:46 |
| replaceafill | compared to the gradebook | 16:46 |
| replaceafill | i only could think of Sort by' options for the columns | 16:47 |
| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135:6660/schoolyears/2010/q1/sections/1/activities/Worksheet/gradebook | 16:47 |
| replaceafill | also the gradebook sets 0's for the absences and tardies | 16:48 |
| replaceafill | the journal sets empty cells | 16:48 |
| replaceafill | and N/A for the average | 16:48 |
| th1a | The formatting is all screwed up for me. | 16:49 |
| th1a | So I don't know. | 16:49 |
| replaceafill | th1a did you reload? | 16:49 |
| replaceafill | the resources have changed | 16:49 |
| th1a | Well, you and I should spend a couple hours tuning this then. | 16:50 |
| replaceafill | sure | 16:50 |
| th1a | OK, we'll come back to that. | 16:50 |
| th1a | aelkner_? | 16:50 |
| aelkner_ | http://69.164.203.135:36660/schoolyears/2010-2011/20102011/sections/1/activities/Worksheet/gradebook | 16:50 |
| aelkner_ | i didn't come up with clever css/js for the average score system menu, but the feature works | 16:51 |
| aelkner_ | also, i added menus for absences and tardies | 16:51 |
| aelkner_ | with sort options and hide options for each column | 16:52 |
| aelkner_ | also, i added Create Summary Worksheet to the Worksheets view | 16:52 |
| aelkner_ | so we could remove Preferences | 16:52 |
| aelkner_ | i left it there until you look over everything and give me the thumbs up to remove it | 16:52 |
| aelkner_ | replaceafill, Worksheets has a css issue with the buttons | 16:52 |
| aelkner_ | i saw that the timetable wizard has the same problem | 16:53 |
| aelkner_ | it seems that the buttons overlay the content that comes before them | 16:53 |
| replaceafill | aelkner_ ah ok, i'll check | 16:53 |
| th1a | You can get rid of the preferences page. | 16:53 |
| aelkner_ | ok | 16:54 |
| th1a | Why is the formatting in the summary section of worksheets screwed up? | 16:54 |
| th1a | Actually, that doesn't need to be a box at all. | 16:54 |
| th1a | Put a header above the first table: | 16:55 |
| th1a | "Reorder or Hide Worksheets" | 16:55 |
| th1a | Header above summary description | 16:55 |
| th1a | "Summary Worksheet" | 16:55 |
| th1a | Also the button should say Worksheet, not Worksheets. | 16:56 |
| th1a | Also, I don't think Summary and Worksheets should be caps in the button. | 16:56 |
| th1a | The summary explanation can just be a p. No box. | 16:57 |
| aelkner_ | Create summary worksheet | 16:57 |
| th1a | Also, what do you see if there already is a summary worksheet? | 16:57 |
| th1a | Same thing? | 16:57 |
| aelkner_ | you should click on it to try it out | 16:57 |
| aelkner_ | replaceafill, it's only when you have a summary worksheet already that the button overlays the checkbox | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 16:58 |
| aelkner_ | i should make the changes th1a just suggested first | 16:58 |
| aelkner_ | then i can ping you to discuss style | 16:58 |
| th1a | Can you do the breadcrumbs for gradebook, aelkner_? | 17:00 |
| aelkner_ | th1a, i still have to fix the wwights view to use widget rows | 17:00 |
| aelkner_ | th1a, sure | 17:00 |
| aelkner_ | also, we have the management views to go over | 17:00 |
| aelkner_ | yesterday you suggested that maybe replaceafill should work on that with you | 17:00 |
| aelkner_ | while i move onto intervention, but he has the journal, too, so... | 17:00 |
| aelkner_ | do you want to decide monday | 17:01 |
| aelkner_ | i still have stuff to do until then | 17:01 |
| th1a | We'll probably shift you over to interventions. | 17:01 |
| aelkner_ | ok, but i'll make the other changes today that i have on my plate | 17:02 |
| th1a | replaceafill: Can we switch the +/-/0 buttons to jquery-ui zoom in out icons. | 17:03 |
| th1a | Also, is that persistent now? | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | i was going to do it, but i didnt know what to use for '0' | 17:03 |
| th1a | I think the empty magnifying glass. Or just don't use it at all. | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | ah | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | no, it's not a preference yet | 17:04 |
| th1a | OK. That's a priority too. | 17:05 |
| th1a | I want to put gradebook and journal to bed. | 17:06 |
| replaceafill | understood | 17:06 |
| aelkner_ | i guess the journal doesn't have as many non-grid views to worry about | 17:06 |
| aelkner_ | actually, none, right? | 17:06 |
| th1a | Both journal and gradebook need double row headers. | 17:06 |
| replaceafill | right | 17:07 |
| aelkner_ | that's good | 17:07 |
| th1a | I have to think about how to format that. | 17:07 |
| aelkner_ | no activities or worksheets to maintain, no preferences | 17:07 |
| th1a | Probably just with an arrow. | 17:08 |
| th1a | The summary sheet in aelkner_'s example seems to be formatted differently than the others. | 17:12 |
| th1a | With a gap where there are no activities. | 17:12 |
| th1a | We can't have a gap there. | 17:13 |
| replaceafill | url please | 17:13 |
| aelkner_ | yeah, i noticed that | 17:13 |
| aelkner_ | replaceafill, you had filled out the empty space at one point | 17:13 |
| replaceafill | yes | 17:13 |
| th1a | http://69.164.203.135:36660/schoolyears/2010-2011/20102011/sections/1/activities/Worksheet-2/gradebook | 17:13 |
| replaceafill | ah no, that scenario is still in the TODO | 17:14 |
| replaceafill | "fewer columns than grades width" | 17:14 |
| replaceafill | i'm still thinking how to solve it | 17:14 |
| replaceafill | i was thinking of putting an extra empty column and use jquery to expand it | 17:15 |
| th1a | That would be ok. | 17:18 |
| th1a | aelkner_: You all set? | 17:19 |
| aelkner_ | yeah, i'm making the changes to the worksheets view, pushing now... | 17:19 |
| aelkner_ | http://69.164.203.135:36660/schoolyears/2010-2011/20102011/sections/1/activities/ | 17:20 |
| aelkner_ | th1a, besides the button css issue, what do you think? | 17:21 |
| th1a | Looks fine. | 17:22 |
| aelkner_ | ok, i have that weights change that is small | 17:22 |
| aelkner_ | otherwise, i could start with interventions | 17:22 |
| aelkner_ | oh, and i'll get rid of Preferences now | 17:23 |
| th1a | aelkner_: Yeah, it doesn't seem like there is enough to keep you busy. | 17:23 |
| th1a | Breadcrumbs for gradebook. | 17:23 |
| replaceafill | shouldn't tabs in the gradebook have tooltips? | 17:24 |
| aelkner_ | ah, yes, breadcrumbs, ok | 17:25 |
| th1a | replaceafill: Yes. | 17:26 |
| th1a | Do the worksheet labels get truncated if you've got too many worksheets. | 17:27 |
| th1a | ? | 17:27 |
| replaceafill | in the Summary worksheet, the two grade columns display popups with one empty row | 17:28 |
| aelkner_ | replaceafill, what's that? | 17:31 |
| replaceafill | go to Summary, click on the noob column | 17:31 |
| replaceafill | i see: title, Edit, emtpy row, Sort by | 17:32 |
| replaceafill | (in the popup) | 17:32 |
| aelkner_ | ah, the popup menus | 17:34 |
| th1a | Hm... I suppose you shouldn't be able to edit that like an activity. | 17:34 |
| th1a | Maybe it doesn't matter. | 17:35 |
| aelkner_ | yes, that should not come up in the menu | 17:35 |
| aelkner_ | sort, sure, but edit, no | 17:35 |
| aelkner_ | i can hide that option if the column is not scorable | 17:35 |
| aelkner_ | wait, edit is for the label, right | 17:37 |
| aelkner_ | Edit needs to stay | 17:37 |
| aelkner_ | Score is already conditional on scorable, but | 17:37 |
| aelkner_ | the condition needs to be on the <li>, not the <a> | 17:38 |
| aelkner_ | so i'll fix that to get rid of the dumb empty menu option | 17:38 |
| aelkner_ | http://69.164.203.135:36660/schoolyears/2010-2011/20102011/sections/1/activities/Worksheet-2/gradebook/index.html | 17:39 |
| aelkner_ | fixed | 17:40 |
| th1a | Edit doesn't really need to stay. | 17:40 |
| aelkner_ | are you sure, the activity title can be changed | 17:41 |
| aelkner_ | isn't that a feature? | 17:41 |
| aelkner_ | also, due date | 17:41 |
| aelkner_ | category, etc. | 17:41 |
| th1a | Are we talking about just in the summary sheet? | 17:42 |
| aelkner_ | no, it's a linked column | 17:42 |
| th1a | Linked columns. | 17:42 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:42 |
| th1a | It would be nice to change the title and label but the other things are irrelevant and confusing. | 17:43 |
| th1a | So you'd basically need a different form. | 17:43 |
| * replaceafill just noticed we're not using "show only activities due in past..." checkbox anymore :) | 17:43 | |
| aelkner_ | when a user creates a linked column, they would want the same kind of control over it as any other column, right? | 17:43 |
| th1a | Well, especially since we can scroll now replaceafill. | 17:43 |
| replaceafill | ah | 17:44 |
| th1a | It doesn't make sense for it to have a due date. | 17:44 |
| replaceafill | shouldn't we remove the field from the form? | 17:44 |
| th1a | More choices/decisions are not always better. | 17:44 |
| aelkner_ | btw, we don't have due date filtering in the new ui | 17:44 |
| th1a | This is also less of an issue since we handle space better (scrolling, etc). | 17:45 |
| aelkner_ | yeah, so we don't even need it anymore, right? | 17:45 |
| aelkner_ | we don't have to remove it from the data model, but we can remove it from the activity forms | 17:46 |
| aelkner_ | th1a, what do you think? | 17:46 |
| th1a | It is not the only reason to have a due date, if that's what you mean. | 17:47 |
| aelkner_ | i'm asking you, do we need it? | 17:47 |
| aelkner_ | i'd be fine with getting rid of it from the forms | 17:48 |
| th1a | We should keep it. | 17:48 |
| aelkner_ | especially since we don't use it in the views | 17:48 |
| th1a | We should be using it more. | 17:48 |
| aelkner_ | ok, so keep it in the Activity form, but not in the Linked Column or LInked Activity forms? | 17:49 |
| aelkner_ | the latter are non-scorable activities | 17:49 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:49 |
| th1a | I think we should add linked and external categories to the defaults. | 17:50 |
| aelkner_ | to the default categories? | 17:51 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:51 |
| th1a | And put each type in their respective category by default. | 17:52 |
| aelkner_ | is that something that should be added to live instances via evolution? | 17:52 |
| th1a | No. | 17:52 |
| aelkner_ | so only new databases will have the two new categories, yes? | 17:53 |
| th1a | It just popped into my head so maybe just add it to the list and see if I still think it is a good idea next week. | 17:53 |
| aelkner_ | ok | 17:53 |
| aelkner_ | and set the category of the newly added cols as you suggested | 17:53 |
| th1a | Well, that would be the idea. | 17:54 |
| aelkner_ | ok | 17:54 |
| th1a | I don't know if I have the right solution, but having them come up as "assignment" is not correct. | 17:55 |
| aelkner_ | ah, but adding them without evolution means losing all the data we set up in the instance | 17:55 |
| aelkner_ | in order to test it out, we would need to clear the Data.fs | 17:56 |
| th1a | You're getting too wrapped up in this aelkner_. | 17:56 |
| th1a | Let's just table it. | 17:56 |
| aelkner_ | ok | 17:56 |
| th1a | I guess it comes down to linked and external columns don't have due dates. | 17:57 |
| aelkner_ | right | 17:57 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:58 |
| th1a | So why don't you get started on these things aelkner_ and ping me if you get done today. | 17:58 |
| aelkner_ | sure | 17:58 |
| aelkner_ | already starting... | 17:58 |
| th1a | ok. | 18:00 |
| * th1a drops the bag of gravel. | 18:00 | |
| th1a | replaceafill: Journal? | 18:00 |
| replaceafill | let's go! | 18:00 |
| th1a | OK, first off, I guess you got rid of auto-save in the Journal? | 18:00 |
| replaceafill | th1a yes | 18:00 |
| replaceafill | should i put it back? | 18:01 |
| th1a | Probably. | 18:01 |
| replaceafill | i removed the ajax part of it | 18:01 |
| replaceafill | well, not removed, just not used it | 18:01 |
| th1a | I mean, we really want that to be in the gradebook soon too. | 18:01 |
| th1a | (soonish) | 18:01 |
| replaceafill | ah | 18:01 |
| replaceafill | we could get rid of the "unsaved changes messages" with it | 18:02 |
| th1a | And in particular the journal you peck at while distracted. | 18:02 |
| th1a | Yes. | 18:02 |
| th1a | And Save becomes Update. | 18:02 |
| replaceafill | ok, i'll enable it again | 18:02 |
| th1a | Or whatever it was. | 18:02 |
| replaceafill | yes | 18:02 |
| replaceafill | yes, Update | 18:02 |
| th1a | kk | 18:02 |
| replaceafill | can we find out why you see it screwed up? | 18:02 |
| replaceafill | th1a also about the pack database action: | 18:05 |
| replaceafill | 1. we need a message for the dialog | 18:05 |
| replaceafill | 2. i think the dialog should display the success/error message on it right | 18:06 |
| replaceafill | so it's self-submitting | 18:06 |
| replaceafill | but if we show buttons Pack | Cancel | 18:06 |
| replaceafill | what should we show after the user hits Pack and get the success message | 18:07 |
| replaceafill | Close? | 18:07 |
| th1a | oh... | 18:08 |
| th1a | Let's make the link go to a regular page and then keep the dialog the same. | 18:09 |
| th1a | (as confirmation) | 18:09 |
| replaceafill | ah, ok | 18:09 |
| th1a | And we can redirect back to /settings right? | 18:09 |
| replaceafill | from the dialog, yes | 18:10 |
| th1a | OK. | 18:10 |
| th1a | Text... | 18:10 |
| th1a | Header "Packing SchoolTool's Database" | 18:10 |
| th1a | SchoolTool's database file should be periodically "packed" to reduce its filesize. Doing so | 18:11 |
| th1a | Hm... | 18:11 |
| th1a | Does packing actually affect performance? | 18:12 |
| th1a | Startup time? | 18:12 |
| th1a | Memory consumption? | 18:12 |
| replaceafill | hhmm dont know | 18:12 |
| * th1a googles. | 18:12 | |
| * replaceafill too | 18:12 | |
| th1a | Pretty much just file size. | 18:15 |
| replaceafill | yes | 18:15 |
| replaceafill | http://www.zodb.org/zodbbook/introduction.html#packing implies larger database = slower | 18:15 |
| th1a | OK, that first sentence is fine, then: | 18:15 |
| replaceafill | ok | 18:15 |
| th1a | I'm sure it is a little slower. | 18:15 |
| th1a | Packing removes old transactions from the database. It can take a long time on a large database, so packing should be done in off-peak times. | 18:17 |
| th1a | Before packing, a backup file will be saved as Data.fs.old | 18:17 |
| th1a | Then make a little table with the path to the current database and size and the path to the backup. | 18:18 |
| replaceafill | we should check the .old name against a ubuntu deb instance | 18:18 |
| th1a | Description | Database | Size | 18:19 |
| th1a | Description is Live/Backup | 18:19 |
| th1a | Description | Path | Size, I mean. | 18:19 |
| replaceafill | i dont think the application control settings have access to .old files | 18:20 |
| replaceafill | but i'll check | 18:20 |
| th1a | No... we'll just tell you where it will be. | 18:21 |
| th1a | Do they overwrite each other? | 18:21 |
| th1a | old-1 etc? | 18:21 |
| * replaceafill is checking the code | 18:22 | |
| replaceafill | oldpath = self._file_name + ".old" | 18:26 |
| replaceafill | if os.path.exists(oldpath): | 18:26 |
| replaceafill | os.remove(oldpath) | 18:26 |
| replaceafill | if self.blob_dir and os.path.exists(self.blob_dir + ".old"): | 18:26 |
| replaceafill | ZODB.blob.remove_committed_dir(self.blob_dir + ".old") | 18:26 |
| replaceafill | th1a it doesnt seem like it creates several old files | 18:26 |
| replaceafill | i'll test it though | 18:27 |
| replaceafill | nope, just one .old file | 18:28 |
| replaceafill | (at least in sandboxes) | 18:28 |
| th1a | So we can guess where it will be. | 18:29 |
| replaceafill | ok, i'll work on that | 18:31 |
| replaceafill | can we check the journal? | 18:31 |
| replaceafill | sorry for distracting you with the pack database action | 18:31 |
| th1a | Yes. | 18:31 |
| th1a | The columns need to be more narrow. | 18:31 |
| replaceafill | ok | 18:32 |
| th1a | Is 23 the most days in a month? | 18:33 |
| th1a | School days. | 18:33 |
| replaceafill | it depends on how you set the term and the schedule | 18:33 |
| th1a | Anyhow, maybe just make them the width they were before for starters. | 18:33 |
| replaceafill | ok | 18:33 |
| replaceafill | just enough space for 0-10 grades | 18:33 |
| replaceafill | and 'a' and 't' | 18:34 |
| th1a | You need two full digits in the headers. | 18:34 |
| th1a | And that is Date above period? | 18:34 |
| replaceafill | yes, "day of the month" (above), "period title" (below) | 18:35 |
| th1a | OK, so basically we need to put labels for those at right in the "Name" header cell. | 18:36 |
| th1a | And split day and period into two rows. | 18:36 |
| th1a | A sketch would help here... | 18:36 |
| replaceafill | th1a no, i get it | 18:38 |
| replaceafill | labels: Day/Period, right? | 18:38 |
| th1a | y | 18:42 |
| replaceafill | ok, anything else? | 18:42 |
| replaceafill | what about the zoom buttons | 18:42 |
| replaceafill | we have no preferences in the journal | 18:42 |
| replaceafill | we need grid preferences in core :) | 18:43 |
| replaceafill | th1a we still need the legend | 18:43 |
| replaceafill | ah, we said sidebar, yes? | 18:44 |
| * replaceafill checks his TODO | 18:44 | |
| replaceafill | "Can we make it a dialog from the sidebar?" | 18:45 |
| replaceafill | this could be a non-modal dialog... | 18:46 |
| th1a | yes | 18:51 |
| replaceafill | but we don't have those yet | 18:51 |
| replaceafill | i'll ask yvl for them though | 18:51 |
| replaceafill | th1a http://69.164.203.135:6660/schoolyears/2010/q1/sections/1/journal | 19:14 |
| th1a | You could move the divider further to the right. | 19:15 |
| replaceafill | th1a like that? | 19:21 |
| replaceafill | refresh | 19:21 |
| replaceafill | or to its own column? | 19:21 |
| th1a | Like that. | 19:21 |
| th1a | You could put arrows in... do you think it is necessary? | 19:21 |
| replaceafill | why not row borders? | 19:21 |
| replaceafill | between the day and the period | 19:22 |
| replaceafill | refresh | 19:23 |
| th1a | Well, yes. | 19:24 |
| th1a | That's good. | 19:24 |
| replaceafill | i'll match the height of the gradebook header | 19:24 |
| replaceafill | there, refresh | 19:25 |
| th1a | Actually, make them both shorter. | 19:26 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 19:27 |
| replaceafill | we're doing the same layout in the gradebook, right? | 19:28 |
| replaceafill | i mean, activity title/points | 19:28 |
| th1a | y | 19:29 |
| replaceafill | k, i'll wait for aelkner_ to finish that to change the gradebook styles | 19:29 |
| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135:6660/schoolyears/2010/q1/sections/1/journal seems like a good height for the header | 19:30 |
| replaceafill | not too tight, not too loose | 19:31 |
| th1a | y | 19:31 |
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| th1a | replaceafill: ayt? | 22:20 |
| replaceafill | th1a yes | 22:20 |
| th1a | Can we update old databases yet? | 22:20 |
| replaceafill | hhmm i havent tried lately | 22:21 |
| replaceafill | th1a it seems to work | 22:23 |
| replaceafill | i took one from core | 22:23 |
| th1a | Yeah, trying now. | 22:23 |
| replaceafill | and the evolution runs fine | 22:23 |
| replaceafill | 2011-08-12 13:22:55,136 main db: evolving in mode EVOLVEMINIMUM | 22:23 |
| replaceafill | 2011-08-12 13:22:55,137 main db/schooltool: currently at generation 35, targetting generation 36 | 22:23 |
| replaceafill | 2011-08-12 13:22:55,250 main db/schooltool.gradebook: currently at generation 2, targetting generation 3 | 22:23 |
| replaceafill | 2011-08-12 13:22:55,255 main db/schooltool.lyceum.journal: currently at generation 1, targetting generation 2 | 22:23 |
| replaceafill | Starting server in PID 5434. | 22:23 |
| th1a | I get zope.app.generations.interfaces.UnableToEvolve: (36, u'schooltool', 36) | 22:23 |
| replaceafill | did you get the Data.fs from natty? or core sandbox? | 22:24 |
| th1a | natty. | 22:24 |
| th1a | Would my selenium scripts run on core sandbox? | 22:24 |
| * replaceafill starts natty | 22:24 | |
| replaceafill | is it me or the init.d script in natty has dpkg-new at the end? | 22:35 |
| th1a | ? | 22:35 |
| replaceafill | i just installed schooltool in natty using the ubuntu software center | 22:36 |
| replaceafill | and wanted to start the service | 22:36 |
| replaceafill | i get /etc/init.d/schooltool-dpkg.new | 22:36 |
| replaceafill | no, /etc/init.d/schooltool.dpkg-new | 22:37 |
| replaceafill | ah! sudo service schooltool ... | 22:38 |
| th1a | Do you get the error? | 22:41 |
| replaceafill | yes | 22:41 |
| replaceafill | PicklingError: Can't pickle <class 'schooltool.lyceum.journal.term.LyceumTermDataContainer'>: it's not the same object as schooltool.lyceum.journal.term.LyceumTermDataContainer | 22:41 |
| replaceafill | i'll try with the journal disabled | 22:42 |
| th1a | Oh... I see. I missed the earlier parts of the traceback. | 22:43 |
| replaceafill | :) | 22:43 |
| replaceafill | yes, disabling the journal works | 22:45 |
| replaceafill | i wonder what's the problem with the journal | 22:45 |
| replaceafill | maybe the timetable changes? | 22:46 |
| th1a | Probably we should make Justas fix the generations. | 22:47 |
| replaceafill | i could turn the journal back on | 22:49 |
| replaceafill | i mean, after running evolution | 22:49 |
| th1a | I'm more concerned with fixing it. | 22:51 |
| replaceafill | of course | 22:51 |
| th1a | OK, later replaceafill. | 23:13 |
| th1a | Have a good weekend. | 23:13 |
| replaceafill | u 2 th1a | 23:13 |
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