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| ignas | menesis, yvl: any of you tried building PIL using buildout on Ubuntu 11.4 ? | 14:30 |
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| menesis | ignas: probably. I have changed PILwoTk to PIL everywhere. Using Ubuntu 11.4 for more than three weeks | 14:31 |
| ignas | did you try making a clean build? | 14:32 |
| menesis | don't know | 14:32 |
| ignas | I am having problems with /usr/lib/zlib.so being moved to /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu | 14:32 |
| menesis | but yes I have been removing eggs from buildout cache | 14:33 |
| menesis | can try again | 14:33 |
| ignas | just wondered maybe you hit that problem already | 14:33 |
| ignas | or maybe it is not present in PIL | 14:33 |
| ignas | will try PIL now, maybe that will help | 14:33 |
| ignas | the problem being - pil gets built without support for anything | 14:34 |
| ignas | no zlib/png, no jpeg | 14:35 |
| ignas | yeah, PIL is giving me the: | 14:39 |
| ignas | /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu | 14:39 |
| ignas | too | 14:39 |
| ignas | *** ZLIB (PNG/ZIP) support not available | 14:39 |
| ignas | i mean | 14:39 |
| menesis | yeah, I get the same.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/602224/ | 14:40 |
| * ignas has no clue how to fix that yet | 14:42 | |
| menesis | :( | 14:56 |
| ignas | got it | 14:57 |
| ignas | http://paste.ubuntu.com/602230/ | 14:57 |
| ignas | works on my machine certified :) | 14:58 |
| menesis | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-April/033049.html | 15:00 |
| menesis | and http://launchpad.net/bugs/738213 | 15:01 |
| menesis | :( | 15:01 |
| ignas | ow | 15:05 |
| ignas | well, hope they'll fix it in 6 months | 15:05 |
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| th1a | hi replaceafill, aelkner, menesis, yvl. | 16:32 |
| th1a | & ignas. | 16:32 |
| yvl | hi guys | 16:32 |
| replaceafill | good morning/afternoon | 16:32 |
| aelkner | morning | 16:32 |
| menesis | hi | 16:33 |
| th1a | menesis: I pushed some changes to schooltool.org to bzr. | 16:33 |
| th1a | If you'd like to take a look and deploy them. | 16:34 |
| th1a | aelkner: Why don't you start us off. | 16:34 |
| aelkner | so i finished the score systems container changes | 16:35 |
| aelkner | i sent a note to the list about the new branch i pushed | 16:37 |
| yvl | Sorry, haven't replied to that yet | 16:37 |
| yvl | in short - it's fine | 16:37 |
| yvl | it would be nice to create the score system container on app satrtup | 16:38 |
| yvl | instead of trying to do that on adapter lookup | 16:38 |
| yvl | that's the only comment I got now :) | 16:38 |
| aelkner | app startup is always run AFTER all evolution is done, tight? | 16:39 |
| yvl | yes | 16:39 |
| aelkner | well, then i could make that small change | 16:40 |
| yvl | thanks | 16:40 |
| yvl | on a related note, there's a bug in Zope on utility unregistration | 16:41 |
| yvl | but I'm working around that now | 16:41 |
| yvl | as in - works, but need to finish tests | 16:42 |
| yvl | sorry for interruption, please continue | 16:43 |
| th1a | Is that related to the bug discussed last week? | 16:43 |
| th1a | OK, so are you moving on then, aelkner? | 16:44 |
| yvl | yes, th1a it's that bug | 16:45 |
| aelkner | besides the app startup change which i can make today, yes | 16:46 |
| th1a | OK, so you're all set? | 16:47 |
| aelkner | well, i need to choose which thing to do next | 16:48 |
| aelkner | i have two gradebook tasks related to the journal | 16:48 |
| aelkner | 1) add 'Jornal Average' to drop-down in Add External Activity view | 16:49 |
| aelkner | 2) create Abs. and Trd. columns in gradebook preferences | 16:49 |
| aelkner | which would you prefer done first | 16:49 |
| th1a | It doesn't matter. | 16:50 |
| th1a | OK, I think we're good. | 16:50 |
| aelkner | after i do the app startup fix, i'll pick one and send you a time estimate | 16:51 |
| th1a | How about you send me an estimate for both. | 16:51 |
| aelkner | ok | 16:52 |
| th1a | Thanks aelkner. | 16:52 |
| th1a | replaceafill? | 16:52 |
| replaceafill | ok | 16:52 |
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| replaceafill | after our meeting last week i investigated how to make a "landscape" page in rml | 16:53 |
| replaceafill | i "kind of" succeded: http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/9564/pantallazoh.png | 16:53 |
| replaceafill | however i don't think that's useful for reading the data in the reprots.... | 16:53 |
| replaceafill | *reports | 16:53 |
| th1a | hm? | 16:54 |
| replaceafill | i mean, i was expecting a landscape view like the one you get in openoffice | 16:54 |
| replaceafill | the image above rotated -90 degrees | 16:55 |
| th1a | You should be able to rotate it in your viewer. | 16:55 |
| replaceafill | ah | 16:55 |
| replaceafill | crtl + left!!! | 16:56 |
| replaceafill | excellent :) | 16:56 |
| replaceafill | ok, now i can live with it | 16:56 |
| replaceafill | i also worked in the second issue i had last week related to the khmer fonts | 16:56 |
| th1a | I imagine there is some way to signal to the viewer how to orient it, but I wouldn't get hung up on that now. | 16:57 |
| replaceafill | basically i reproduced schooltool.app.pdf.setUpLiberationFonts | 16:57 |
| replaceafill | register the khmer ttf directory in the search path | 16:57 |
| replaceafill | and added a mapping for the khmer basic font | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | and it works, the font gets embeded in the pdf | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | so, i think i'm ready to show the reports to chandara | 16:58 |
| th1a | Good. Can you mix them in the same pdf? | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | mix them? | 16:59 |
| th1a | Khmer and latin? | 16:59 |
| replaceafill | ah, no i couldnt do that, because we have only one mapping | 16:59 |
| replaceafill | if i do addMapping('Arial_Normal', 0, 0, 'Arial_Normal') | 17:00 |
| replaceafill | hhmm | 17:00 |
| th1a | Can you mix them in the same SchoolTool instance (different reports)? | 17:00 |
| replaceafill | th1a i can use the khmer fonts as base | 17:00 |
| replaceafill | i mean, the khmer font has latin and khmer | 17:00 |
| replaceafill | in it | 17:00 |
| th1a | Oh, ok. | 17:01 |
| th1a | Cool. | 17:01 |
| replaceafill | i'll merge all these little changes and set an instance for them to see | 17:01 |
| replaceafill | in other news, i'll leave tomorrow for uruguay | 17:01 |
| replaceafill | to edujam 2011 | 17:01 |
| th1a | Excellent. Looking forward to seeing it. | 17:01 |
| th1a | Ah yes, we need to discuss that. | 17:01 |
| replaceafill | th1a correct, maybe after the meeting? | 17:02 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:02 |
| th1a | So let's move on. | 17:02 |
| th1a | menesis: Anything to report? | 17:02 |
| th1a | or... yvl? | 17:05 |
| menesis | me | 17:05 |
| * yvl poked menesis :) | 17:05 | |
| menesis | last week I was finalising 1.6 release | 17:06 |
| menesis | created 1.6 dir on ftp, stable series in launchpad, branched tools for 1.6 | 17:07 |
| menesis | updated older series as well | 17:07 |
| menesis | trunk is now open for development | 17:08 |
| menesis | I still have brave branches to merge | 17:08 |
| menesis | first is intervention refactoring | 17:08 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:09 |
| th1a | I don't need a super-detailed report since we last met on Wednesday. | 17:09 |
| menesis | also, was discussing things with debian pkg-zope developers | 17:09 |
| menesis | there is some activity on debian | 17:09 |
| th1a | Interesting. | 17:09 |
| menesis | they are taking my changes, doing their own work | 17:09 |
| menesis | asked why I did some things | 17:10 |
| menesis | etc. | 17:10 |
| menesis | oneiric is now open for development | 17:10 |
| menesis | I already have some changes in it | 17:10 |
| aelkner | menesis, how soon will the journal independence branch you made be in tuunk? | 17:10 |
| menesis | sync from debian has also started | 17:10 |
| menesis | so I will have to handle merges from debian soon | 17:11 |
| menesis | I should commit my changes to debian now | 17:11 |
| aelkner | menesis, sorry to interrupt | 17:11 |
| th1a | To Zope packages? | 17:11 |
| menesis | yes | 17:12 |
| menesis | packages that are in debian already | 17:12 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:12 |
| menesis | I would like to work on this this week | 17:12 |
| th1a | So at some point we can think about getting SchoolTool into Debian, I guess? | 17:12 |
| menesis | sometime in the future | 17:13 |
| th1a | Yes. It is not a high priority. | 17:13 |
| menesis | I only need to merge my changes to debian packages back to debian | 17:13 |
| menesis | that's all from me | 17:15 |
| th1a | Thanks menesis. | 17:15 |
| th1a | yvl? | 17:15 |
| aelkner | can i ask something | 17:15 |
| menesis | btw, I will work only 3 days this week | 17:15 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:15 |
| menesis | flying for a weekend in London Wed night | 17:16 |
| aelkner | menesis, my next tasks involve gradebook/journal integration | 17:16 |
| th1a | menesis: OK. | 17:16 |
| aelkner | should i branch your branch? | 17:16 |
| menesis | aelkner | 17:16 |
| aelkner | lp:~menesis/schooltool.gradebook/attendance | 17:16 |
| menesis | this one is merged | 17:16 |
| menesis | into trunk | 17:17 |
| aelkner | so i can branch schooltool.gradebook trunk? | 17:17 |
| menesis | and released as 0.9.0 | 17:17 |
| menesis | to clarify, yes, lyceum.journal is now optional in gradebook | 17:17 |
| aelkner | ok, cool, thanks | 17:17 |
| menesis | what task is it? | 17:18 |
| menesis | ok I see in the log | 17:19 |
| th1a | OK, yvl? Anything to report? | 17:21 |
| yvl | took 3 days off + 1 day Easter holiday last week | 17:21 |
| yvl | apart from that, I worked a bit on UI | 17:21 |
| yvl | and debuged the local adapter registry persistance today | 17:22 |
| yvl | came up with a hack, so ST starts without gradebook | 17:22 |
| yvl | that's that. | 17:22 |
| th1a | OK, thanks yvl. | 17:23 |
| th1a | I'm thinking that when we do the website design/branding we should just go ahead and get a design for buttons, menus, (the visual design) etc. at the same time. | 17:25 |
| th1a | Since that'll be happening at roughly the same time, and the exchange rates are favorable. | 17:25 |
| th1a | Consistent color palette. | 17:25 |
| th1a | Also, send invoices. | 17:26 |
| yvl | do you mean button/menu design for ST? | 17:26 |
| th1a | yvl: Yes. | 17:27 |
| yvl | ok | 17:27 |
| th1a | yvl, menesis: Actually, don't send invoices until I send an email about bonuses. | 17:27 |
| yvl | we should have working mockups first though | 17:27 |
| yvl | I meant mockups :) | 17:27 |
| th1a | You've got at least a month. | 17:27 |
| yvl | oh... ok :))) | 17:27 |
| th1a | They're busy. | 17:28 |
| th1a | Which I take as a good sign. | 17:28 |
| * yvl agrees | 17:28 | |
| th1a | OK, let's finish on time! | 17:29 |
| th1a | Have a great week gentlemen! | 17:29 |
| * th1a drops the bag of gravel. | 17:29 | |
| replaceafill | thanks everybody | 17:30 |
| th1a | replaceafill: back in five minutes. | 17:30 |
| replaceafill | th1a cool | 17:30 |
| aelkner | great week everyone | 17:30 |
| yvl | great week to you all :) | 17:31 |
| th1a | Hi replaceafill. | 17:36 |
| replaceafill | hey th1a | 17:36 |
| th1a | So... I basically see this as a way to raise our profile w/OLPC folks and do some networking. | 17:36 |
| replaceafill | got it | 17:37 |
| th1a | Do you have anything more specific in mind? | 17:37 |
| th1a | Certain people you want to talk to? | 17:38 |
| replaceafill | i was thinking of looking for people we already know are interested in schooltool | 17:38 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:38 |
| replaceafill | i remember tony anderson was interested | 17:38 |
| replaceafill | there's a chance people from nepal come | 17:38 |
| th1a | I think it might be good to mention SchoolTool is being used in Classmate deployments. | 17:38 |
| replaceafill | also, matt gallagher ported aks work to fedora 14 | 17:39 |
| replaceafill | i was thinking of doing a demo if i have the chance | 17:39 |
| replaceafill | i mean, showing that schooltool already works in f14 | 17:40 |
| th1a | What's your sense of the state of OLPC server in general? | 17:40 |
| th1a | I mean, is there a functioning official version? | 17:40 |
| replaceafill | no, i sense after talking to jelkner and the theehouse guys (bernie, dogi, etc) that it's been abandoned for some time | 17:41 |
| replaceafill | there was a thread started by jelkner with this issue | 17:41 |
| th1a | That's what I thought. | 17:42 |
| replaceafill | and it seems like they're moving to a version of redhat, but no timelime was mentioned | 17:42 |
| th1a | btw, Vivian started asking last week about the green computers sitting on my shelf, so it looks like I'm going to be updating my XO's soon... | 17:42 |
| replaceafill | :D | 17:43 |
| replaceafill | i'm taking mine with me to uruguay | 17:43 |
| replaceafill | also matt wrote some instructions to have the services running in fedora 14, i'll try to set that up | 17:43 |
| replaceafill | (identity, backup, etc) | 17:43 |
| replaceafill | + schooltool | 17:43 |
| th1a | So basically you're talking to individual deployments rather than one entity. | 17:43 |
| replaceafill | ? | 17:44 |
| th1a | There is not one OLPC server to get added to. | 17:45 |
| replaceafill | ah, right | 17:45 |
| th1a | But presumably each country is doing something on their servers. | 17:45 |
| replaceafill | correct | 17:45 |
| th1a | I guess finding out what they're doing for a SIS would be another important goal. | 17:46 |
| replaceafill | by "they" you mean...? | 17:46 |
| replaceafill | (i assume people interested in schooltool dont use a SIS) :p | 17:47 |
| th1a | "They" meaning different OLPC deployments. | 17:48 |
| replaceafill | got it | 17:48 |
| replaceafill | th1a silly question | 17:48 |
| replaceafill | can schooltool be defined as "educational software" | 17:48 |
| replaceafill | (if that's the right term...) | 17:48 |
| replaceafill | ah yes, it's "educational software" http://ceibaljam.org/edujam2011_en | 17:49 |
| replaceafill | because to me, educational software is the one you use to learn... | 17:49 |
| replaceafill | i think ours is administrative... | 17:50 |
| th1a | I would not call it "educational software." | 17:50 |
| yvl | isn't it supposed to be administrative? ;) | 17:51 |
| replaceafill | yvl :P | 17:51 |
| replaceafill | th1a so, to sum up, networking and findings about their SIS's would be a positive outcome | 17:52 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:52 |
| replaceafill | great! wish me luck :) | 17:52 |
| th1a | Good luck! | 17:52 |
| th1a | Did you end up flying direct? | 17:52 |
| replaceafill | i'll leave at 1pm to panama and then to montevideo, i'll arrive at 4am... | 17:53 |
| th1a | Sounds like fun. | 17:56 |
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| fsufitch | aelkner: ping | 21:11 |
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| aelkner | fsufitch, hey | 21:25 |
| aelkner | are you available today? | 21:25 |
| fsufitch | aelkner: yes, we agreed on this | 21:25 |
| aelkner | i thought so, but you didn't get back to me before leaving friday, so i wasn't sure | 21:26 |
| aelkner | in any event, you were in the middle of creating the z3c form, using the gradebook example | 21:27 |
| fsufitch | yes | 21:27 |
| fsufitch | and i got right back to that | 21:27 |
| fsufitch | i didn't really have anything significant at the end of fri to send you, sorry | 21:28 |
| aelkner | that's ok, i just thought i'd focus you in on copying the example structure over | 21:28 |
| aelkner | but, you can pick it up today any way you want | 21:29 |
| aelkner | i'm ust trying to make sure the tasks are always broken up into small enough chunks | 21:29 |
| aelkner | anyway, just let me know if you have any questions | 21:30 |
| fsufitch | yup, will do | 21:32 |
| fsufitch | :) | 21:32 |
| th1a | replaceafill: zyt? | 22:01 |
| replaceafill | th1a yes | 22:01 |
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