IRC log of #schooltool for Monday, 2010-11-22

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aksreplaceafill: hello06:15
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aksmenesis: hellop09:47
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aksyvl: hello11:16
yvlhi aks11:16
yvlI'll update the packages in a sec11:17
aksyvl: thank you11:17
aksyvl: remember there are Fedora 9 and Fedora 13 repos. so you'll need to update both of them11:18
yvlaks, done11:46
yvlplease check :)11:46
aksyvl: thankyou11:47
aksyvl: lets see the results from replaceafill11:50
yvlsure :)11:50
aksyvl: F9 builds worked fine for me11:50
aksyvl: for OLPC XS systems it also adds a config entry (vhost) for apache11:50
aksyvl: so that schooltool is available at http://schoolserver/schooltool on the OLPC XS system11:51
yvlI noticed... nice :)11:51
aksyvl: after we decide the RPMs as stable, I'll update the specs and the sources11:53
aksyvl: at the git repo11:53
yvlare you planning to switch from dev to a released version11:54
aksyvl: also I was wondering if we could get the "data.fs" file from a populated system so that we can use it for demonstration and training11:54
aksyvl: the current one is the released version 1.511:55
aksyvl: it's not dev11:55
yvlbut you released 1.5.1 version11:57
yvlnot 1.5.211:57
yvl( )11:59
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aksyvl: yes, by the time I fetched the source, it was 1.5.112:04
aksyvl: later on I'll build for successive versions as well12:04
yvlah, cool12:04
aksyvl: my build system is 90-95% ready and stable, so that I just need to run the script, and it will fetch the specs, sources for the required version, run a rpm build against it, and notify if there are any errors12:05
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th1ahi replaceafill, aelkner, yvl, menesis.16:30
yvlgood morning16:30
replaceafillgood morning/afternoon16:30
th1aI have a conference today with Vivian's teacher, so we need to wrap this up -- at least the part I'm useful for -- in the official hour.16:31
th1aSo... replaceafill: GO!16:31
replaceafilllast week i worked in the database exporter, i added a sheet writer for person details16:32
replaceafillunfortunately that wasn't what Trevor (the user) needed16:32
th1aYes... it was very confusing.16:32
replaceafilli spent a few days chasing old demographics code in schoolbell/schooltool code16:32
replaceafilli even installed K12LTSP 4.1 and 4.416:33
replaceafillbut both of them had schoolbell code with no demographics16:33
* menesis hi16:33
replaceafillso, we'll have to wait for feedback from him16:33
replaceafillin the gradebook side i made little progress with the preferences work, i hope to finish that today16:34
replaceafill(i took friday off to visit the parents btw)16:34
replaceafilland i tried to help aks with his dns/apache problem16:34
replaceafillfortunately, yvl got it right16:34
replaceafilland it seems like there are new fedora 9 packages that i will test too16:35
yvltrue, released today16:35
replaceafilli have fedora 9 installed already16:35
yvlalso, on the topic:16:35
yvl<aks> yvl: yes, by the time I fetched the source, it was 1.5.116:35
yvl<aks> yvl: later on I'll build for successive versions as well16:35
yvljust so you know :)16:36
replaceafillyvl, but theyre testeable, right?16:36
yvljust 1.5.1, not 1.5.216:36
replaceafillah ok16:36
yvlapologies for interruption...16:37
replaceafillth1a, i also hope we hear back from javier this week16:37
th1areplaceafill:  Indeed.16:37
replaceafillthat's pretty much what i have to report16:38
replaceafillth1a, i plan to move to statuses once preferences work is done16:38
th1aWe'll plan on giving them time through next year, but we have plenty of other things to do if they fall over.16:38
replaceafillthat's enrollment statuses16:38
th1areplaceafill:  Sounds good.16:38
th1athanks replaceafill.16:38
th1aMiss Donovan McNabb?16:39
replaceafillaelkner, go michael vick!16:39
aelknernot in the least16:39
aelkneryeah babay16:39
aelkneryvl, did you get my note?16:39
yvlyou just need an absolute URL adapter there16:40
yvl(from the first glance)16:40
aelknerok, we can go further after we let th1a go, but in summary:16:41
aelkneri worked on the resource demos last week, then mid-week, yvl made some helpful suggestions16:42
aelknerand i realized that the same setting, limit_keys, could be used both for basicperson demos16:42
aelknerand resource demos, just using a different set of keys16:42
yvl(and we should stop calling them "demographics" later on :) )16:42
aelknerwell, that would be a bugger project, just changing all the references to the word demographics16:43
aelkneranyway, i created the resource demos data model, app init and startup16:44
aelknerand i started working on the browser side of things16:44
aelkneri got stuck on some action links issues, but yvl will help me with that after the meeting16:45
aelknerth1a, i heard from david, and he told me you communicated with him, s thanks for that16:45
th1aJust let me know if he gives you a *date* for his meeting.16:46
aelknerheopfully we can have everything ready for is meeting early december16:46
aelknerwill do16:46
aelknerthat's all for me today16:46
th1aWe can quickly fake anything necessary.  ;-)16:47
aelkneronce the resource demos are ready, there won't be anything left on the census front16:47
aelknerbut yeah, anyway, we'll do whatever he needs for the meeting16:48
th1aWell, actually creating a printed census report.16:48
aelkneri hadn't thought that we would be doing that16:49
aelknerafter all, the census reprt was for gathering info, but we will have forms for that16:49
aelknerand we can send the info to the state using an export of some kind16:49
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th1aWe need to print out the data in the report.16:50
th1aWe don't need an end-user customizable Census generating system.16:51
th1aBut we should be able to make a custom report.16:51
aelknerwe need to create a pdf that looks like their census form?16:51
th1aI would like to.16:51
th1aIt shouldn't be that hard.16:51
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aelknerthat's it for me16:52
th1aThanks aelkner.16:53
th1amenesis, I was looking at your email query about filing new packages.16:53
th1aThe upshot of which was "do I have to follow this procedure for all the packages?"16:53
th1aPerhaps we should just assume the answer to that is "yes" and get going on it.16:54
menesisthat, and "who will be sponsoring my work"16:54
th1aWell, there is a set of steps leading up to that right?  Can we get a batch of things up to that point?16:54
th1aNot focus everyone's attention on "OK, I have this massive pile of crap to dig through."16:55
th1aJust start moving one shovelfull at a time.16:55
menesisyes, since I got no reply, I will start uploading to REVU this week16:56
menesislast time I got a handful packages uploaded through it16:56
th1aDid others get stuck?16:57
th1aRegardless, it seems like a better point to nag people about -- once we've followed the official procedure.16:57
menesisit was March and the freeze kicked in, they were never touched afterwards16:57
menesisbut now I have to reupload everything built for natty16:57
th1aSo essentially the process worked up to that point.16:57
menesisit was slow16:58
th1aYes, well, that's why we're paying you.  If it was fun you could volunteer.  ;-)16:58
menesisbut now I was waiting for no reason, so I should just follow the procedure and maybe random people will help16:59
th1aWe have some leverage to get things through, but you need the authority of saying "OK, I've followed your rules, not it is your turn."16:59
th1aAnd it is easier to get shortcuts approved AFTER you've done a few the long way (although we did this once before in Lucid, we kind of lost our cred by not finishing).17:00
th1amenesis:  Anything else?17:01
menesislast week I got back to backporting fixes to lucid17:03
menesisI have redone the backport using proper merge from trunk, to not miss anything17:03
menesisI've got to a point that everything is merged to 1.417:03
menesisnow I only need to update translations for both branches and I would like to release 1.5.3 and 1.4.317:04
menesis1.5.3 contains one bugfix and updated translations17:04
th1aOK... can you send out an announcement to schooltoolers when you do that?17:05
th1aOr send me the release notes beforehand?17:05
menesissince there are no new features, I guess I can send an announcement with a list of bugfixes myself17:06
th1aOK.  We just need to make sure we're warning people.17:08
th1aAnything else?17:08
menesisthat's it17:08
th1ayvl:  How are you feeling?17:09
yvlstill sick, getting better17:09
yvlshould be ok mid week17:10
yvlso nothing to upddate17:10
yvlbeen tracking emais, but that's it...17:10
th1aOK.  Get well.17:10
th1aThis is Thanksgiving week in the USA, so I'll be in Maine Thursday and Friday.17:11
th1aThe plan is to send the 2010 report and 2011 proposal to Mark on Wednesday.17:11
aelknerth1a, btw forgot to mention something in my email17:12
aelkneralthough you asked for mpelembe-specific work17:12
th1aI also have a phone meeting with the Critical Links guys tomorrow, so hopefully we'll take some planning steps forward on that end.17:12
aelkneri did  work on overhauling the XLS import which i did in tandom with the FET work17:12
aelkneralthough the two are not connected per se17:13
th1aYes, I remember.  Thanks.17:13
th1aAll right.  Thanks, guys.17:15
th1aHave a great week!17:15
* th1a drops the bag of gravel.17:15
replaceafillthanks everybody17:15
aelknerth1a, have fun in Maine17:15
aelknergreat week everyone17:15
yvlgreat week to you all17:15
yvland happy holidays :)17:15
aelkneryvl, your absoluteurl suggestion worked like a charm!17:16
yvlglad to hear :)17:16
aelkneri will work on the resource edit forms next17:16
aelkneryvl, could we pre-arrange a time to meet here in say a day or two?17:17
aelknersince you're the one who's not feeling well, i'll let you name the time of day17:17
yvlis the default meeting time ok?17:18
yvl9:30 EST?17:18
aelknerideally, for me, a couple of hours later would be better17:18
aelkneri tend to stay up late at night17:18
aelkneri could meet around midnight my time17:18
aelkneror any time until say 3:00 am17:18
aelknerwould any of those times be ok?17:19
yvl(I'm thinking about time differences... slowly :) )17:20
yvlwell, once I'm healthy enough, 0:30AM - 3:00AM looks good17:21
aelknerok, cool, could you send me a note if you are feeling better to let me know that you'll be here in that time range?17:22
aelknerif not, i'll assume you are still not feeling well, ok?17:22
yvlby the way, which day do you want to meet?17:22
yvlI assume Wed?17:22
aelknerin the time range suggested, Wed?17:23
yvlit's a deal17:23
aelknergreat, thanks17:23
yvland if you have questions or anything17:24
yvldon't hesitate to email :)17:24
aelknerbtw, when we say wed, we mean late tuesday night that become wed morning for me, right?17:25
aelknerthat would be wed morning for you17:25
aelkneryvl, is that right?  i get confused by time differences, too17:26
yvllate Tue night :)17:26
aelknerok, i'll let you go17:26
aelknerfeel better!17:27
yvlif anything, we can move to late Wed night - just email ;)17:27
yvlthanks aelkner17:27
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