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| replaceafill | yvl, u around? | 17:33 |
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| ryanpg | hi all... I will be presenting schooltool to our staff tomorrow (or possibly next week) | 17:49 |
| ryanpg | there's one question I know will arise: can individual calendars be "shared" | 17:49 |
| ryanpg | our school does a lot of scheduling, due to the fact that each student sees at least one therapist each week, the staff would like to be able to check the calendars of therapy staff to see when sessions are scheduled... possible? | 17:51 |
| th1a_ | Hi ryanpg. | 18:16 |
| ryanpg | hi th1a_ | 18:22 |
| ryanpg | how are you doing? | 18:22 |
| th1a_ | Good. Back from pre-school open house. | 18:22 |
| ryanpg | wow, for your kid(s) | 18:22 |
| th1a_ | Yes. | 18:23 |
| ryanpg | exciting! | 18:23 |
| th1a_ | OK, so you need calendars of therapists that are viewable *only* by teachers and administrators? | 18:24 |
| th1a_ | Have you found this, by the way: http://localhost:7080/@@security.html | 18:24 |
| ryanpg | that would be cool, checking the link now | 18:25 |
| ryanpg | oops, schooltool not running atm | 18:25 |
| th1a_ | That's not necessarily localhost for you. ;-) | 18:25 |
| ryanpg | argh... I'm not on our VPN | 18:25 |
| ryanpg | is that the list of access privileges ? | 18:26 |
| th1a_ | Yes. | 18:26 |
| ryanpg | yeah, I've looked that over previously | 18:26 |
| th1a_ | Just checking. | 18:26 |
| ryanpg | I would like to learn to adjust access privileges actually, I reviewed the xml files | 18:27 |
| ryanpg | ultimately, a nice "checkbox" web interface would be cool, though I understand you guys decided against something like that for the sake of simplicity | 18:27 |
| th1a_ | Well, here's one semi-workaround I'd propose -- the therapist's schedule could be handled as a resource. | 18:28 |
| th1a_ | And we make those (by default) visible to teachers. | 18:28 |
| ryanpg | hmm | 18:28 |
| ryanpg | I'm just brainstorming - but wouldn't it be useful if staff (i.e. non-students) could select to "share" their calendars, so that there would be a (potentially very long) list of viewable calendars on the left? | 18:29 |
| ryanpg | I mean individual calendar overlays (sorry I don't have the correct nomenclature down) | 18:30 |
| th1a_ | Yes, and we used to have that. | 18:32 |
| th1a_ | We re-did a lot of the calendar code (it was hairy and buggy) and didn't have time to put everything back in. | 18:33 |
| th1a_ | So it is really just a question of time, money and priorities for us. | 18:33 |
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| ryanpg | ahh | 18:33 |
| ryanpg | ok, well I can tell that to the staff | 18:33 |
| socket | hi ! | 18:33 |
| th1a_ | hi socket. | 18:33 |
| ryanpg | th1a_, one of the "selling points" of schooltool | 18:34 |
| ryanpg | was that I could "talk with the developers" :D | 18:34 |
| socket | hi, I am new here, how to i change my username ? :) | 18:34 |
| th1a_ | ryanpg: For the therapist use case in particular, I do think the resource workaround would be viable. | 18:34 |
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| th1a_ | In fact, let me double-check something in the application... | 18:35 |
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| Karcamo[x] | hi, | 18:35 |
| th1a_ | Um... /nick ? | 18:36 |
| th1a_ | Hik Karcamo[x]. | 18:36 |
| Karcamo[x] | th1a_, thanks, I was socket :) | 18:36 |
| th1a_ | I figured you knew each other. ;-) | 18:36 |
| Karcamo[x] | :) | 18:36 |
| Karcamo[x] | i have a problem with schooltool, | 18:36 |
| Karcamo[x] | sorry, but i speak spanish, and my english isn't good :( | 18:37 |
| th1a_ | replaceafill: zyt? | 18:37 |
| th1a_ | replaceafill is our Vice President for Latin American Affairs. | 18:37 |
| replaceafill | Karcamo[x], sebastian? | 18:37 |
| Karcamo[x] | replaceafill, yeas . | 18:37 |
| Karcamo[x] | yes | 18:37 |
| replaceafill | hola que tal? | 18:38 |
| replaceafill | th1a_, we need schooltool-es :P | 18:38 |
| Karcamo[x] | replaceafill, ohhh ? bien y tu ? | 18:38 |
| Karcamo[x] | replaceafill, exacto .. | 18:38 |
| ryanpg | th1a_, I'l look into that... thanks much | 18:38 |
| Karcamo[x] | th1a_, where you are from ? | 18:38 |
| Karcamo[x] | replaceafill, de donde eres ? yo soy de chile | 18:38 |
| replaceafill | de el salvador | 18:38 |
| th1a_ | ryanpg, Just a sec... | 18:39 |
| Karcamo[x] | replaceafill, te cuento mi duda, | 18:39 |
| replaceafill | Karcamo[x], dime | 18:39 |
| Karcamo[x] | th1a_, thanks :) | 18:39 |
| Karcamo[x] | replaceafill, en el libro de notas -gradebook- quiero mostrar el promedio. | 18:39 |
| Karcamo[x] | pero no los valores porcentuales, sino, los valores exactos .. | 18:39 |
| replaceafill | Karcamo[x], dejame iniciar mi instancia de prueba... | 18:39 |
| Karcamo[x] | replaceafill, okey .. | 18:39 |
| replaceafill | Karcamo[x], estas usando Lucid, verdad? | 18:40 |
| Karcamo[x] | yep . | 18:40 |
| Karcamo[x] | instale schooltoo desde los repositorios . | 18:41 |
| Karcamo[x] | th1a_, somebody speak spanish too ? | 18:42 |
| replaceafill | Karcamo[x], ok listo | 18:43 |
| replaceafill | por omision, el promedio se muestra en porcentaje, correcto? | 18:43 |
| Karcamo[x] | replaceafill, correcto . | 18:45 |
| replaceafill | la forma "forzada" que te recomendé en launchpad es | 18:45 |
| th1a_ | Karcamo[x], I don't speak spanish. | 18:45 |
| replaceafill | agregar una nueva hoja de trabajo | 18:45 |
| Karcamo[x] | replaceafill, aps okey, tu lo recomendaste ... | 18:46 |
| Karcamo[x] | replaceafill, douglas ? | 18:46 |
| Karcamo[x] | th1a_, okey :) | 18:46 |
| replaceafill | Karcamo[x], si | 18:46 |
| replaceafill | en la nueva hoja, agregas una nueva columna vinculada | 18:46 |
| replaceafill | las columnas vinculadas permiten mostrar "columnas" de otras hojas de trabajo | 18:47 |
| replaceafill | el promedio es una columna | 18:47 |
| replaceafill | asi que en la segunda hoja vinculas el promedio de la primera hoja | 18:47 |
| replaceafill | se que es un "hack" pero... | 18:47 |
| replaceafill | es la única forma que he encontrado | 18:48 |
| replaceafill | el problema con la forma de desplegar el promedio es que schooltool basa la mayoría de calculos en porcentajes | 18:48 |
| replaceafill | en tu caso talvez tener una "preferencia" que pudiera "apagar" el simbolo de "%" seria suficiente :) | 18:49 |
| replaceafill | porque el número sigue siendo el mismo | 18:49 |
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| Karcamo[x] | Karcamo[x], en el telefono, :) | 18:50 |
| replaceafill | Karcamo[x], dale, no hay problema | 18:50 |
| Karcamo[x] | replaceafill, gracias, dame unos minutos y lo veo ... | 18:50 |
| replaceafill | Karcamo[x], ok | 18:50 |
| Karcamo[x] | aer .. | 18:53 |
| Karcamo[x] | tengo 2 hojas, ahora agregare una columna vinculada | 18:53 |
| Karcamo[x] | ahora veo el promedio de la primera hoja en la segunda hoja :) | 18:54 |
| replaceafill | en la segunda puedes hacer un poco de personalizacion | 18:55 |
| replaceafill | por ejemplo | 18:55 |
| replaceafill | en la segunda puedes usar las preferencias | 18:55 |
| replaceafill | y ocultar el total y el "promedio" de la segunda | 18:55 |
| replaceafill | asi solo te queda una columna (el promedio de la primera) | 18:55 |
| replaceafill | tambien puedes editar la actividad vinculada | 18:55 |
| replaceafill | para cambiarle el titulo que se despliega | 18:56 |
| replaceafill | pues por defecto creo que le pone Sheet... o algo asi | 18:56 |
| replaceafill | en realidad esa es una caracteristica util de schooltool que te permite organizar las hojas, por ejemplo en periodos | 18:58 |
| replaceafill | y las hojas de trabajo no se vuelven tan "anchas" (con demasiadas actividades) | 18:58 |
| Karcamo[x] | si, es interesante ... | 18:59 |
| Karcamo[x] | gracias, | 18:59 |
| Karcamo[x] | ahora lo que me complica es que en mi pais usamos una escala desde 10 a 70 | 18:59 |
| replaceafill | Karcamo[x], un placer, no dudes en preguntar si tenes mas dudas | 18:59 |
| Karcamo[x] | y no 100 como esta configurado schooltool, | 19:00 |
| replaceafill | hhmm | 19:00 |
| replaceafill | pero las actividades (las de la primera hoja) las puedes configurar de 10 a 70 | 19:00 |
| replaceafill | cuando creas la actividad | 19:01 |
| replaceafill | los ultimos dos campos | 19:01 |
| replaceafill | son Minimo y Maximo | 19:01 |
| replaceafill | de puntos | 19:01 |
| Karcamo[x] | si ... :) aer .. | 19:02 |
| replaceafill | :) | 19:02 |
| replaceafill | ojo, una vez creas la actividad no puedes cambiar esos dos valores | 19:02 |
| replaceafill | creo que se hace para evitar afectar notas ya introducidas | 19:02 |
| replaceafill | por ejemplo si de inicio la haces de 0-100, el profesor la califica y luego la volves a cambiar de 30-40 | 19:03 |
| replaceafill | que pasaria con la nota... | 19:03 |
| replaceafill | por eso creo que no se permite "editar" esos dos valores | 19:03 |
| replaceafill | otra cosa de la que tenes que estar al tanto es que schooltool permite "extra creditos"... | 19:04 |
| replaceafill | si definis tu actividad de 10-70 | 19:04 |
| replaceafill | creo que el profesor puede usar 72 | 19:04 |
| replaceafill | como nota | 19:04 |
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| Karcamo[x] | aps si, me habia dado cuenta que no se pueden editar actividades ... | 19:11 |
| Karcamo[x] | tambien acerca de "los creditos extras" :) | 19:11 |
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| Karcamo[x] | loading ... | 19:20 |
| Karcamo[x] | replaceafill, estas ? | 19:23 |
| Karcamo[x] | tengo una duda .. | 19:23 |
| replaceafill | Karcamo[x], dime? | 19:23 |
| Karcamo[x] | todavia no puedo calcular el promedio de la primera hoja segun los rango que manejo .. | 19:24 |
| Karcamo[x] | y en la segunda hoja no me muestra el promedio de la primera hora, a pesar de que esta vinculada la columna | 19:24 |
| replaceafill | como has configurado tu primera hoja? | 19:26 |
| replaceafill | me refiero a cuantas actividades? | 19:26 |
| replaceafill | minimos y maximos? | 19:26 |
| Karcamo[x] | 2 actividades, 10 y 70 en ambas ... | 19:28 |
| replaceafill | ok | 19:28 |
| replaceafill | y que notas has puesto en ambas? | 19:28 |
| replaceafill | tratare de replicarla | 19:28 |
| Karcamo[x] | 60 | 19:29 |
| Karcamo[x] | y 70 | 19:29 |
| Karcamo[x] | 70 es la nota maxima ... | 19:29 |
| replaceafill | OK | 19:29 |
| Karcamo[x] | para que le promedio sea 65 :) | 19:29 |
| replaceafill | ah! | 19:30 |
| replaceafill | de nuevo el porcentaje :( | 19:30 |
| replaceafill | da 92% | 19:30 |
| Karcamo[x] | a menos que tenga que crear un nuevo "sistema de puntaje" ? | 19:30 |
| replaceafill | lo mismo estaba pensando | 19:31 |
| replaceafill | el problema que veo con un nuevo sistema de puntaje es que es discreto... hasta donde recuerdo... | 19:31 |
| replaceafill | creo que habria que poner cada valor desde 70 hasta 20 :( | 19:32 |
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| Karcamo[x] | claro ... | 19:35 |
| replaceafill | Karcamo[x], si, acabo de definir uno solo con 6 lineas y funciona | 19:35 |
| replaceafill | 70,60,50,40,30,20 | 19:35 |
| replaceafill | y muestra 60 | 19:35 |
| replaceafill | si te tomas el trabajo de definir todos los valores, lo logras :) | 19:36 |
| Karcamo[x] | que notas le pusiste ? | 19:36 |
| replaceafill | al alumno? | 19:36 |
| Karcamo[x] | si | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | 60 y 70 | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | da 65 | 19:37 |
| Karcamo[x] | aps okey ... | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | te muestro como hice el sistema? | 19:37 |
| Karcamo[x] | aer, y como seria para ingresar el nuevo sistema de puntacion .. | 19:37 |
| Karcamo[x] | ok . | 19:37 |
| Karcamo[x] | por favor ... | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | Karcamo[x], http://img693.imageshack.us/i/pantallazoversistemadep.png/ | 19:40 |
| Karcamo[x] | aer ... | 19:40 |
| replaceafill | obvio que no es optimo.. | 19:41 |
| replaceafill | :) | 19:41 |
| Karcamo[x] | pero igual, si me doy el trabajo de hacerlo, solo seria una vez, | 19:41 |
| Karcamo[x] | esos se pueden exportar / importar ? | 19:41 |
| replaceafill | eso es verdad | 19:41 |
| Karcamo[x] | ahora, es necesario que sea en orden ? de mayor a menor ? | 19:43 |
| replaceafill | si | 19:43 |
| Karcamo[x] | esos se pueden exportar / importar ? | 19:43 |
| replaceafill | hhmm no creo | 19:43 |
| Karcamo[x] | creo que necesitaré mas de un sistema de puntuacion, | 19:43 |
| Karcamo[x] | uno donde sea 50% de exigencia, esto quiere decir que con 50% se obtiene la nota 4, -la mitad- | 19:44 |
| replaceafill | ah | 19:44 |
| Karcamo[x] | y otro donde el porcentaje es mayor para obtener la nota 40 | 19:44 |
| replaceafill | bueno, experimenta :D | 19:44 |
| Karcamo[x] | ok, ya lo tengo claro. | 19:51 |
| Karcamo[x] | muchas gracias .. | 19:51 |
| Karcamo[x] | cualquier cosa te contactaré. | 19:51 |
| Karcamo[x] | te pasaste :) | 19:51 |
| replaceafill | Karcamo[x], de nada | 19:54 |
| Karcamo[x] | Saludos ... | 19:58 |
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