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| aelkner | yvl: i see you're looking into the ckeditor problem | 16:17 |
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| aelkner | is there anything i can do to assist? | 16:17 |
| yvl | thanks, but I fixed it | 16:17 |
| yvl | just need to finish writing tests | 16:17 |
| aelkner | oh, oh | 16:17 |
| yvl | then release a new schooltool egg | 16:18 |
| aelkner | egg of zope.html? | 16:18 |
| aelkner | i'm not using schooltool egg you know | 16:18 |
| aelkner | i use branch of schooltool trunk | 16:18 |
| yvl | then you'll need to update the branch to the newest version | 16:18 |
| aelkner | it's waiting? | 16:19 |
| aelkner | bzr pull? | 16:19 |
| yvl | did not commit yet | 16:19 |
| aelkner | what about the copy i did of fckeditor from 2.6.whatever to . | 16:19 |
| aelkner | should i undo that? | 16:19 |
| yvl | yes | 16:20 |
| aelkner | so what was the reason that the files are in the 2.6... direcotry? | 16:20 |
| aelkner | it seemed strange to me | 16:20 |
| aelkner | was i right about setup.py being at play? | 16:21 |
| yvl | zope.html changed the path to the editor | 16:23 |
| yvl | in ST, we have both zope forms and z3c.form forms | 16:23 |
| yvl | zope app forms use a widget defined in zope.html | 16:23 |
| yvl | they updated the widget to reflect path changes | 16:23 |
| yvl | z3c.form has no integration with fckeditor | 16:24 |
| yvl | so we wrote our own | 16:24 |
| yvl | but did not update it, when zope.html changed | 16:24 |
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| aelkner | excellent | 16:26 |
| aelkner | so i should have something to install at SLA this morning, right? | 16:27 |
| yvl | yes :) | 16:27 |
| yvl | soon... | 16:27 |
| aelkner | thank you, thank you... | 16:27 |
| yvl | apologies for not fixing it earlier | 16:28 |
| aelkner | no prob, you're helping me out big time right now | 16:29 |
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| yvl | aelkner: fix released to schooltool trunk | 17:18 |
| aelkner | ok, i'll try now | 17:18 |
| yvl | I didn't test it manually, since it will be easier for you to do that | 17:18 |
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| yvl | and also - it's kind of a hot topic at the moment ;) | 17:19 |
| aelkner | how's that? | 17:21 |
| yvl | people are waiting for the fix! :) | 17:22 |
| yvl | (so it becomes a hot topic ;) ) | 17:22 |
| aelkner | what people besides me? | 17:24 |
| yvl | sorry, I was just joking | 17:24 |
| yvl | I meant - you are waiting for the fix | 17:24 |
| aelkner | oh, so funny :) | 17:26 |
| aelkner | anyway | 17:26 |
| aelkner | it works! yeah! | 17:26 |
| aelkner | live at SLA | 17:26 |
| yvl | finally... :) | 17:26 |
| aelkner | i'm sending them the final note to tell them to have at it | 17:27 |
| aelkner | thanks again for being so quick to respond | 17:27 |
| yvl | you're very welcome :) | 17:27 |
| aelkner | th1a: i informed SLA that it's ready | 17:31 |
| yvl | ok, I'm going home | 17:33 |
| yvl | will get back on-line after a while | 17:33 |
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| th1a | aelkner: See if that fixes the Safari problem too. | 17:54 |
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| aelkner | th1a: how do i install safari? apt-cache search safari yields nothing about safari | 18:23 |
| aelkner | oh, and actually, the problem was happening on a Windows machine | 18:23 |
| aelkner | which i don't have | 18:23 |
| aelkner | remember the MSWord tags we saw in the data? | 18:24 |
| th1a | aelkner: I meant ask them if Safari works. | 18:38 |
| aelkner | ah, sure | 18:38 |
| th1a | Remember the widget just wasn't showing up? | 18:38 |
| aelkner | i don't remember that one | 18:38 |
| th1a | Also, did we implement something to fix that Word issue? | 18:38 |
| aelkner | yes | 18:38 |
| aelkner | that's the fix that i'm talking about, the printing corrupt data fix | 18:39 |
| th1a | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/schooltool.gradebook/+bug/485896 | 18:39 |
| aelkner | i know the bug, it's mine | 18:39 |
| th1a | ? | 18:39 |
| aelkner | the link you posted is what i see every time i look at my inbox | 18:40 |
| aelkner | that all i was saying | 18:40 |
| aelkner | anyway | 18:40 |
| aelkner | i will ask them who uses safari, and then i can check in on the resultant data to see if it is corrupt | 18:41 |
| th1a | Are you saying the reason the data was corrupt was because fckeditor wasn't showing up in Safari? | 18:41 |
| aelkner | i'm confused about how you see the two fckeditor bugs as being related | 18:44 |
| aelkner | the rendering problem has been solved | 18:44 |
| aelkner | that has nothing to do with the corrupt data problem | 18:45 |
| aelkner | that seems to happen when they use Safari | 18:45 |
| aelkner | MS tags and other annoying stuff gets inserted into the data | 18:45 |
| th1a | I don't think they're related. | 18:45 |
| aelkner | i suppose the Javascipt on a MS machine does the corruption of the data | 18:46 |
| th1a | I also don't think there is a Safari/MSWord problem. There's a MSWord/FCKEditor problem. | 18:46 |
| th1a | There is a setting in CKEditor that addresses the issue. | 18:46 |
| aelkner | really, what's that? | 18:46 |
| th1a | Well, there is a "paste from word" button that should be enabled. | 18:48 |
| th1a | http://docs.cksource.com/ckeditor_api/symbols/CKEDITOR.config.html | 18:49 |
| th1a | http://docs.cksource.com/CKEditor_3.x/Developers_Guide/Setting_Configurations | 18:50 |
| aelkner | i think that is what we need to solve the problem | 18:52 |
| th1a | Yeah... that's what I was trying to ask you. ;-) | 18:53 |
| aelkner | it does involve making changes to the js files which are third party | 18:53 |
| aelkner | so that's a packaging issue | 18:53 |
| th1a | Perhaps this: CKEDITOR.config.forcePasteAsPlainText | 18:54 |
| aelkner | i saw that one | 18:54 |
| th1a | I imagine you can override somehow. | 18:54 |
| aelkner | i'm ready with full analysis yet, but pasteFromWordRemoveFontStyles and pasteFromWordPromptCleanup look interesting | 18:55 |
| th1a | "The best way to set your configurations is in-page, when creating editor instances. In this way you avoid touching the original distribution files in the CKEditor installation folder, making the upgrade task easier." | 18:55 |
| aelkner | cool, so it's just a matter of changing the widget that yvl just changed | 18:57 |
| th1a | Apparently. | 18:58 |
| aelkner | to call the editor with different args | 18:58 |
| aelkner | if yvl agress and provides a fix, i could install live at SLA to see if it fixes the problem | 18:58 |
| aelkner | if it could be done in that one step, that would be minimally disruptive to them | 18:59 |
| th1a | Shouldn't you just be able to change the template? | 19:00 |
| aelkner | it's a widget thing that may involve only changing a template, but i don't know | 19:01 |
| th1a | Well... perhaps you could give it a try. | 19:01 |
| aelkner | do you mind if we consult someone who's more closely familiar with the widget? | 19:02 |
| aelkner | i will look at the recent diff to become more familiar myself | 19:03 |
| th1a | Where is yvl putting the config? | 19:05 |
| aelkner | i just starting looking at the code | 19:05 |
| aelkner | Specify the FCKConfig. | 19:06 |
| aelkner | >>> zope.component.provideAdapter( | 19:06 |
| aelkner | ... skin.widgets.Fckeditor_config, name='config') | 19:06 |
| aelkner | if you're curios, schooltool trunk's recent revision has a whole new test that reveals a lot | 19:07 |
| aelkner | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~schooltool-owners/schooltool/trunk/revision/2640 | 19:09 |
| th1a | So... can you change the config there? | 19:11 |
| th1a | The specific issue is this -- if Chris is updating the faculty on the app today, and we need them to use the "Paste from Word" button, it would be good to stick it in there asap. | 19:12 |
| aelkner | well, considering we already were able to print last term with our fix, i don't see it as urgent | 19:14 |
| aelkner | i mean, is it a good use of my time, knowing we have only a cople od days until te freeze | 19:15 |
| aelkner | for me to learn all of the mindshare that yvl has having written the widget and tests | 19:15 |
| th1a | Well, if you think your pile of hacks will still work. | 19:15 |
| replaceafill | th1a, could you help me with this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/schooltool/+bug/370899 | 19:16 |
| aelkner | i think they will | 19:16 |
| replaceafill | "spaces in last names shouldn't be taken into consideration"? | 19:16 |
| th1a | Does that make sense to you? | 19:16 |
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| replaceafill | the examples: Van Reeth, Vandelanotte | 19:17 |
| replaceafill | Vandelanotte should come first | 19:17 |
| th1a | Spaces come last? | 19:17 |
| replaceafill | "For the moment "Van Reeth" comes before "Vandelanotte" although it should be otherwise." | 19:17 |
| replaceafill | spaces have lower ascii values, so they are sorted at top | 19:18 |
| replaceafill | than "d" in this case | 19:18 |
| th1a | Hm. | 19:18 |
| th1a | I'm not sure which is considered standard now. | 19:18 |
| replaceafill | what the user wants is something like us to compare "Vandelanotte" vs "VanReeth" | 19:19 |
| th1a | Yes. | 19:19 |
| th1a | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabetical_order#Alphabetical_order | 19:19 |
| replaceafill | "But in another system, the names are alphabetized as if they had no spaces, e.g. as follows:" | 19:20 |
| th1a | Let's say "won't fix." | 19:21 |
| replaceafill | :D | 19:22 |
| replaceafill | i wonder if the ICollator adapter could help in this case | 19:23 |
| th1a | There's an ICollator adapter??? | 19:23 |
| replaceafill | yes, it's pretty cool | 19:23 |
| replaceafill | yvl told me about it and i used it for the courses and groups feature | 19:24 |
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