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| jstraw | morning all | 16:26 |
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| th1a | Good morning/evening. | 16:26 |
| aelkner | morning | 16:29 |
| th1a | hi aelkner, ignas, yvl. | 16:31 |
| ignas | hi | 16:31 |
| th1a | aelkner: What's the current status with SLA? | 16:31 |
| aelkner | i tested the latest fix on my machine against sla's latest data | 16:32 |
| yvl | morning guys | 16:32 |
| aelkner | and it worked, so i just need to deploy to sla | 16:33 |
| aelkner | heah yvl | 16:33 |
| th1a | OK. Can you do that RIGHT NOW? | 16:33 |
| aelkner | so should i just bring down schooltool without getting an ok from them? | 16:33 |
| th1a | Well, perhaps you should check your email more frequently because you did get an OK from Chris. | 16:34 |
| th1a | At 5:38 AM actually. | 16:34 |
| aelkner | i saw, but it wasn't 100% clear | 16:34 |
| aelkner | the sooner the better | 16:34 |
| th1a | aelkner: You really have to be more proactive about this stuff. | 16:35 |
| th1a | Do it now. | 16:35 |
| aelkner | ok | 16:35 |
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| th1a | OK... ignas, what's up in Vilnius? | 16:36 |
| ignas | not much, still working on exporting the information, got sections and groups left | 16:37 |
| ignas | and then I can use the old sample data export | 16:37 |
| ignas | to test new import | 16:37 |
| th1a | OK. Chugging along at a steady pace then? | 16:37 |
| ignas | yep | 16:37 |
| th1a | Hm... we should discuss jelkner's bugs. Perhaps yvl can work on some of them. | 16:39 |
| th1a | His new gradebook bugs. | 16:39 |
| jelkner | that sounds good to me ;-) | 16:39 |
| th1a | yvl: I don't have anything in your queue right now, correct? | 16:40 |
| jelkner | i could give an account on my instance to whomever is going to work on them | 16:40 |
| yvl | true, th1a | 16:40 |
| ignas | hmm, yeah, looking at some of them | 16:40 |
| * ignas is not getting emails from launchpad because of some reason it seems | 16:40 | |
| ignas | will have to fix the critical add person one | 16:41 |
| yvl | I finished adding FCK editor; need to merge that branch SLA trunk | 16:41 |
| yvl | but it contains evolution, so it needs to be done with care | 16:41 |
| yvl | backuping Data.fs and testing after evolutio | 16:41 |
| th1a | Oh, right. | 16:41 |
| aelkner | ok, done | 16:42 |
| th1a | Um... yes, the critical add person one. | 16:42 |
| aelkner | i sent the email to all | 16:42 |
| yvl | aggregate report would be a good start to test | 16:42 |
| th1a | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/schooltool/+bug/298135 | 16:42 |
| th1a | What's up with that? | 16:42 |
| ignas | my bad, a missing functional test | 16:42 |
| ignas | and a broken line | 16:43 |
| ignas | easy to fix | 16:43 |
| ignas | will release a fix asap | 16:43 |
| th1a | Please do. | 16:43 |
| th1a | OK, then there is https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/schooltool/+bug/298671 | 16:44 |
| th1a | which is just a little glitch, I think. | 16:44 |
| th1a | What's your id on LP, yvl? | 16:45 |
| th1a | aelkner: Thanks. | 16:45 |
| yvl | justas-pov | 16:45 |
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| th1a | This is the "columns too wide" bug: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/schooltool/+bug/298673 | 16:46 |
| th1a | Basically, they just need to become fixed width and narrow. Three characters wide, I'd say. | 16:47 |
| yvl | assign it to me? | 16:48 |
| th1a | Yep. | 16:48 |
| th1a | Do we know what branch jelkner is using? | 16:49 |
| * jelkner listens attentively... | 16:50 | |
| jelkner | is there an easy way i can tell? | 16:50 |
| ignas | th1a: he is using trunk | 16:51 |
| ignas | th1a: iirc | 16:52 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:52 |
| jstraw | he is using cando.cando2007 which pulls a trunk egg | 16:53 |
| ignas | yeah, thought so ;) | 16:53 |
| jstraw | most cando instances don't run buildout -n on update | 16:53 |
| jstraw | so we forced it to run on his | 16:53 |
| ignas | jstraw: good | 16:53 |
| ignas | because cando was not adapted to work with school years yet | 16:53 |
| jelkner | thanks jstraw! | 16:53 |
| jstraw | we know | 16:53 |
| jstraw | which is why his gradebook continues to work | 16:53 |
| jstraw | and his cando does not | 16:53 |
| th1a | yvl: Also, keep in mind that the gradebook views have not really been "designed" at all. They should probably be generally made to match the Journal views. | 16:54 |
| yvl | emm, this is a plan for the future? | 16:54 |
| th1a | Well, it will need to be done sooner or later. | 16:55 |
| th1a | I'm not sure how much explicit instruction it requires. | 16:55 |
| yvl | So I should update parts of them to match Journal views as I go? | 16:55 |
| th1a | That's what I'm saying. | 16:56 |
| yvl | I mean if it doesn't eat too much time (days, weeks...) | 16:56 |
| th1a | One would hope it doesn't. | 16:56 |
| th1a | But it will probably take days at some point. | 16:56 |
| yvl | got it, thanks | 16:57 |
| th1a | Actually, one thing we've not done well is having the developer change a couple things, send me a screenshot to check it out, etc. | 16:57 |
| th1a | We tend to do waterfall UI. | 16:57 |
| th1a | (from my point of view, at least) | 16:58 |
| aelkner | may i make a request? | 16:58 |
| th1a | Aside from getting CanDo working, does jelkner have any other gradebook issues? | 16:58 |
| th1a | aelkner: Go ahead. | 16:58 |
| aelkner | can you make a new branch for jelkner to use | 16:59 |
| aelkner | a branch of cando that is | 16:59 |
| aelkner | so that, if you make any changes to that branch | 16:59 |
| th1a | Who you? | 16:59 |
| aelkner | it won't crash the live instance we have gong for the virginia users | 16:59 |
| aelkner | what i'm saying is | 16:59 |
| aelkner | if people are going to trouble-shoot jelkner's cando instance | 17:00 |
| aelkner | by changing cando | 17:00 |
| aelkner | please do so to a different branch | 17:00 |
| aelkner | than what the 1000s of cando users are now using | 17:00 |
| aelkner | cando-refacctoring-model-6 | 17:00 |
| ignas | aelkner: emm, aren't you the one working on CanDo ? | 17:01 |
| aelkner | well, jelkner's cando is a bit rogue | 17:01 |
| aelkner | he wants bleeding edge and is only one client | 17:01 |
| th1a | Your point is well taken aelkner, but I think it applies mainly to you. | 17:02 |
| jelkner | and i want replaceafill's new gradebook integration code to live in it | 17:02 |
| aelkner | th1a: how do you mean? | 17:02 |
| yvl | maybe it's time to merge cando-refactoring-model-6 to trunk? | 17:02 |
| jelkner | so we need a solution that permits that development to take place | 17:02 |
| yvl | and do the new development there? | 17:02 |
| ignas | making CanDo work with school years is a significant endeavour, and I am not sure who and when should do it | 17:02 |
| th1a | ignas: Indeed. | 17:03 |
| * ignas is pretty happy that it started up with school years enabled at all ;) | 17:03 | |
| jelkner | well, it is going to have to be done | 17:03 |
| jelkner | so we need to sort that out | 17:04 |
| jstraw | there is no code changes to CanDo aelkner | 17:04 |
| aelkner | i thought it sounded like ignas suggested that cando would need to change | 17:04 |
| th1a | Look... | 17:05 |
| th1a | CanDo needs to be updated to work with the new SchoolTool... | 17:05 |
| jstraw | aelkner: it does, it needs to be updated to work with SchoolYears | 17:05 |
| th1a | and everyone agrees that it needs to be done in a new branch. | 17:05 |
| th1a | Now... | 17:05 |
| jstraw | but existing instances are ok until buildout -n is run | 17:05 |
| th1a | let's take a step back for a second. | 17:05 |
| th1a | aelkner: What are your plans for the week? | 17:05 |
| * jstraw notes that someone should lock trunk CanDo to a schooltool egg that works... | 17:06 | |
| aelkner | i had cando bugs that i was going to continue working on | 17:06 |
| dwelsh | yipee | 17:06 |
| aelkner | but if wlesh doesn't need them so soon | 17:06 |
| aelkner | then i could help wth the touble-shooting cando and SchoolYears issue | 17:06 |
| th1a | How critical are the CanDo bugs? | 17:07 |
| aelkner | that's dwelsh's call | 17:07 |
| dwelsh | one critical, three high priority | 17:07 |
| dwelsh | all four pretty important | 17:07 |
| th1a | What are the bugs? | 17:08 |
| dwelsh | in other words, they are affecting the 55 current users | 17:08 |
| ignas | aelkner: there is nothing to trouble shoot, can do knows nothing about school years, and still assumes that there are global containers that have all the stuff | 17:08 |
| dwelsh | the critical is a failure getting data to save when trying to do so the first time in the gradebook | 17:08 |
| jstraw | I'll make the change for the egg | 17:09 |
| dwelsh | the other three are: finish two items on a report; handle two sorting problems; make a change to messaging. | 17:09 |
| th1a | How long should that take, aelkner? | 17:10 |
| aelkner | i would estimate | 17:11 |
| aelkner | this week's half time for cando | 17:11 |
| th1a | OK. Besides that we need to fix the damned sendmail problem. | 17:12 |
| aelkner | and let's forget SLA waking up on the CAS front | 17:12 |
| aelkner | not forget | 17:12 |
| th1a | Yes. Did you meet with them in person last week? | 17:13 |
| aelkner | i did | 17:13 |
| aelkner | i sent the email about that | 17:13 |
| aelkner | a great meeting with the admin guy, also called Chris | 17:13 |
| aelkner | the ball's in their court with getting the users installed on the CAS server | 17:14 |
| aelkner | i was going to call today to see how that's going | 17:14 |
| th1a | Yes, do that. | 17:15 |
| aelkner | ok | 17:15 |
| th1a | All right... ignas, what's the eta for the person bugfix release? | 17:16 |
| ignas | 3 hours | 17:16 |
| ignas | maybe 2 | 17:16 |
| th1a | Cool. That'll be 2008.10.1, right? | 17:17 |
| ignas | i think 2008.10.4 | 17:17 |
| th1a | Oh... we're going to start needing release notes. | 17:17 |
| * jelkner needs to leave to get ready for class | 17:18 | |
| th1a | Bye jelkner. | 17:18 |
| jelkner | is there anything you need from me before i go? | 17:18 |
| jelkner | th1a: i'll call you later today to figure out what we decided here ;-) | 17:19 |
| ignas | oh 2008.10.5 actually ;) | 17:19 |
| th1a | I'll be at school until about 1:30. | 17:19 |
| jelkner | ok after 1:30 then | 17:19 |
| jelkner | cya | 17:20 |
| th1a | Is there a way that one is supposed to do release notes via debs? | 17:20 |
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| ignas | yeah, not sure how to do it automatically in a convenient way | 17:21 |
| ignas | will have to look at our release machine | 17:21 |
| ignas | and find out if it can do more than "updated from upstream" | 17:22 |
| th1a | In the short term, make sure and let me know when you release a deb, and where I should look at checkin comments to write something for the website. | 17:22 |
| th1a | I think we're pretty well squared away then. Everyone knows what they are doing this week? | 17:23 |
| jstraw | ignas: what is the last egg without schoolyears? | 17:24 |
| ignas | jstraw: look at .installed.cfg | 17:24 |
| ignas | to see which version is being currently used | 17:24 |
| ignas | (i think it's there) | 17:24 |
| jstraw | hmm | 17:24 |
| jstraw | that would tell me an egg that works | 17:25 |
| jstraw | would it give me the last one? | 17:25 |
| ignas | hmm, ok, can't find it there... | 17:25 |
| ignas | i'd say 2008.04 should be still ok | 17:25 |
| ignas | while 2008.10 should be with school years | 17:26 |
| jstraw | ok | 17:26 |
| ignas | schooltool-2008.04.7dev-r2438.tar.gz | 17:26 |
| ignas | hmm, or is it too old | 17:27 |
| ignas | let me see the logs | 17:27 |
| ignas | schooltool-2008.10.0dev-r2439.tar.gz | 17:28 |
| ignas | seems to be the last before schoolyears egg | 17:29 |
| aelkner | th1a: i just spoke with chris the sla tech | 17:29 |
| jstraw | ok, so for an egg 2008.10.0dev-r2439 is the name? | 17:29 |
| ignas | don't know really | 17:30 |
| ignas | sorry, can't recall the precise setuptools syntax | 17:30 |
| th1a | aelkner: and? | 17:31 |
| jstraw | ok | 17:31 |
| aelkner | he said he will be doing something about the users either tonight or tomorrow | 17:31 |
| aelkner | and i reinforced my 100% availability to him | 17:31 |
| aelkner | so we have a good line of communication | 17:32 |
| th1a | OK. Good. | 17:32 |
| th1a | Do you think CAS will actually work? | 17:32 |
| aelkner | nah | 17:32 |
| aelkner | only kidding | 17:32 |
| aelkner | i don't see why not | 17:32 |
| th1a | How confident are you on a scale of 1 to 10? | 17:33 |
| aelkner | 9 out of 10 | 17:33 |
| aelkner | 9.8 | 17:33 |
| th1a | Hm. Maybe you should plan on being on-site the day they try to use it in production. | 17:33 |
| th1a | The day after you throw the switch. | 17:34 |
| aelkner | i'd be happy to, | 17:34 |
| aelkner | that's up to chris the tech to decide | 17:34 |
| th1a | I would suggest it. | 17:34 |
| aelkner | he seems to be leaning towards doing it at night | 17:34 |
| aelkner | and from his own home | 17:34 |
| aelkner | to avoid service disruption | 17:34 |
| th1a | Right, but it might be good to be around the next day. | 17:34 |
| aelkner | i understand his thinking | 17:34 |
| th1a | Or offering. | 17:34 |
| aelkner | i'm available 100% of time as I offered | 17:35 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:35 |
| th1a | I think we're done here. | 17:35 |
| * th1a drops the bag of gravel. | 17:35 | |
| th1a | I'll be behind a school firewall for a while today. | 17:35 |
| th1a | Have a great week, gentlemen! | 17:36 |
| aelkner | you, too | 17:36 |
| ignas | th1a: i'm uploading the new package now | 17:37 |
| ignas | will copy it to hardy and intrepid in 20-30 minutes | 17:37 |
| th1a | ignas: thanks. | 17:39 |
| jstraw | ignas: schooltool-2008.10.0dev_r2433-py2.4.egg | 18:12 |
| jstraw | so schooltool == 2008.10.0dev_r2439 | 18:12 |
| jstraw | for the setup.py? | 18:13 |
| ignas | let me try | 18:13 |
| jstraw | aelkner, yvl: is there a reason we have not merged all this back to trunk? | 18:13 |
| ignas | ok, you try | 18:13 |
| ignas | ;) | 18:13 |
| ignas | don't have the sandbox suitable | 18:13 |
| jstraw | I do ;) | 18:14 |
| ignas | though - i would do it in buildout.cfg | 18:14 |
| ignas | not setup.py | 18:14 |
| ignas | otoh | 18:14 |
| ignas | well - yeah, because developers can override buildout.cfg whenever they want easily | 18:15 |
| jstraw | the zope version of i18nmessageid is limited there | 18:15 |
| ignas | but is it "dev" ? | 18:15 |
| jstraw | no | 18:15 |
| jstraw | I see this as temporary until SchoolYears is done... I am going to put a # XXX into it so hopefully it is noticed | 18:15 |
| ignas | ok | 18:16 |
| jstraw | global name log not defined | 18:18 |
| jstraw | gmm | 18:18 |
| jstraw | hmm | 18:18 |
| ignas | nope, haven't seen such a thing | 18:19 |
| lisppaste5 | Lumiere pasted "log error" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/70571 | 18:20 |
| ignas | what command did you run? | 18:20 |
| ignas | and what does svn diff on setup.py say? | 18:21 |
| jstraw | - 'schooltool', | 18:23 |
| jstraw | + 'schooltool == 2008.10.0dev_r2439', | 18:23 |
| jstraw | +# XXX Remove the version of schooltool once CanDo supports SchoolYears | 18:23 |
| jstraw | (the last line appears at the bottom of the fille | 18:23 |
| ignas | and the command that gave you this error was? | 18:24 |
| jstraw | buildout -n | 18:30 |
| ignas | bin/buildout -n ? | 18:32 |
| ignas | strange | 18:33 |
| ignas | because traceback seems to be python2.5 | 18:33 |
| ignas | and also - it is showing system eggs | 18:33 |
| ignas | and I was pretty sure I had cando buildout use the bootstrap.py that isolates it from site-packages :/ | 18:33 |
| ignas | and as your setuptools are in site-packages my guess would be - they are too old | 18:36 |
| ignas | ok have to go now | 18:41 |
| ignas | th1a: released the bugfix | 18:41 |
| ignas | jstraw: look at the makefile for clues | 18:42 |
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