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| th1a | ignas: Did you try updating from generated sample data? | 15:30 |
| ignas | yep, found the bugs | 15:30 |
| ignas | fixed them | 15:30 |
| ignas | fixing some more small issues | 15:30 |
| th1a | cool. | 15:31 |
| th1a | aelkner: ping. | 16:15 |
| th1a | ignas: let me know when you commit | 17:07 |
| ignas | th1a: evolution script is commited already | 17:25 |
| ignas | th1a: i am just fixing section view functional test, though that should not affect anything that you do | 17:25 |
| ignas | because the view works | 17:25 |
| th1a | ok. | 17:31 |
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| th1a | ignas: Nice. | 17:59 |
| ignas | th1a: commited some fixes to the section view | 17:59 |
| ignas | and to the calendar overlay portlet | 17:59 |
| ignas | so now - it shoud work the way it's supposed to | 18:00 |
| th1a | Yes. Thanks. | 18:00 |
| ignas | i'll proceed to packaging now (cando database seems ok too) | 18:00 |
| th1a | Excellent. Good work ignas. | 18:00 |
| ignas | i only had to change their code in one place, and it started working with school years | 18:00 |
| ignas | though - they'll probably need more extensive packaging | 18:00 |
| th1a | Sure. | 18:01 |
| th1a | There isn't a zope 3 equivalent of pep 8 is there? | 18:30 |
| ignas | can't recall now | 18:32 |
| ignas | i mean - zope corp has it different from POV ;) | 18:32 |
| ignas | schooltool is using mgedmin coding style (pep 8 with some minute modifications iirc) | 18:32 |
| ignas | or at least was using | 18:32 |
| ignas | before hurricane Martijn and typhoon Stephan ;) | 18:33 |
| th1a | OK. I'm writing a long form of all SchoolTool features. I guess I'll just leave it at PEP 8. | 18:33 |
| th1a | Are we going to use version numbers like 8.10.0, 8.10.1, etc. | 18:35 |
| ignas | yeah, same as with 2008.04 | 18:47 |
| ignas | though - I am still thinking whether i'll make stapp2008fal | 18:47 |
| th1a | 2008.10.0 then. | 18:48 |
| ignas | fall | 18:48 |
| ignas | or just leave it at stapp2008spring | 18:48 |
| ignas | and add gradebook to it | 18:48 |
| ignas | (because package users are installing is schooltool-2008) | 18:48 |
| ignas | as for 2008.10.0 | 18:48 |
| ignas | last release started from 2008.10.2 i think ;) | 18:48 |
| th1a | I think next year it will need to be separate packages for spring and fall. | 18:48 |
| ignas | hmm, i can probably do stapp2008fall in schooltool-2008 if there were no configurations before that | 18:49 |
| ignas | i'll see for sure when i'll be doing that | 18:49 |
| th1a | I don't think it matters this time around. | 18:50 |
| th1a | But I'm definitely putting down as a feature that major upgrades don't happen automatically -- that a new package is installed and you move your db when you're ready. | 18:51 |
| ignas | hmm | 18:52 |
| ignas | problem is | 18:52 |
| ignas | if schooltool gets school years | 18:52 |
| ignas | your configuration stays the same | 18:52 |
| ignas | as in - lyceum.journal and basicperson | 18:52 |
| ignas | but - you still get school years because that's core functionality that you can't opt out from | 18:52 |
| ignas | and won't be able to, unless we try to support 100% identical look and feel (which might be inferred from a phrase - major upgrades don't happen automatically) | 18:53 |
| th1a | I'm not sure what you mean -- I'm saying that when a new release comes out it gets its own database and own /etc/schooltool/... | 18:54 |
| th1a | rather than overwriting. | 18:55 |
| th1a | So you have to manually copy things. | 18:55 |
| th1a | Your current version continues to run exactly as before until you manually make the jump. | 18:55 |
| ignas | what do you mean "exactly as before" | 18:55 |
| ignas | if you upgrade schooltool to 2008.10 | 18:56 |
| ignas | you either evolve or don't run | 18:56 |
| ignas | there is no way on ubuntu to keep schooltool 2008.04 | 18:56 |
| ignas | at the same time :/ | 18:56 |
| th1a | If they were two separate packages -- apt-get install schooltool-2008-04 | 18:57 |
| ignas | nope | 18:57 |
| ignas | can't | 18:57 |
| ignas | eggs | 18:57 |
| ignas | pythonpath | 18:57 |
| ignas | ubuntu can only have 1 version of the egg in there | 18:57 |
| ignas | hmm | 18:57 |
| ignas | ok we can conflict | 18:57 |
| ignas | so yeah, probably it is possible | 18:57 |
| ignas | hmm | 18:57 |
| th1a | No, I see what you're saying. | 18:57 |
| th1a | I'm looking at it too simplistically. | 18:57 |
| ignas | there are 2 packages - python-schooltool (2008.04) which will become python-schooltool (2008.10) | 18:58 |
| th1a | Also, I'm forgetting this corresponds to Ubuntu versions. | 18:58 |
| ignas | which is a library | 18:58 |
| ignas | and another package (schooltool-2008) | 18:58 |
| ignas | that installs the schooltool library + schooltool.stapp2008spring configuration | 18:58 |
| ignas | and creates the neccesary configuration in /etc/schooltool/schooltool-2008 + /etc/init.d/ | 18:59 |
| ignas | to run that configuration | 18:59 |
| ignas | what we can 100% promise is that we will honour their configuration, what we can't promise is - that we will release schooltool-2008.04 on Ubuntu8.10 | 18:59 |
| ignas | maybe next year if you really want to | 19:00 |
| th1a | Yes... I forgot about interacting with the underlying distribution. | 19:00 |
| th1a | OK. Gotcha. | 19:00 |
| th1a | I got a little over-excited. | 19:02 |
| ignas | well - what you want is technically possible, but technically difficult ;) | 19:03 |
| th1a | I've heard that before. | 19:05 |
| th1a | How do you say that in Lithuanian? | 19:05 |
| ignas | don't know really :) | 19:09 |
| ignas | I am thinking in English when speaking in English for a long time now, so you can treat me as a native speaker with poor vocabulary ;) | 19:10 |
| ignas | ok, I must run now (must pay the money for the place I am renting) will be online in like 30-40 minutes and start uploading packages for ibex | 19:11 |
| ignas | if they will work - I will make the release and upload the new packages for ibex | 19:11 |
| ignas | package them for gutsy and install them on my machine | 19:12 |
| ignas | then - i will look at how one backs up the database before upgrading... | 19:12 |
| ignas | see you soon | 19:12 |
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