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| jelkner | hey tom! | 00:25 |
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| jelkner | i'm here chatting with a visitor from aruba | 00:25 |
| jelkner | who just happens to be looking for a school information system | 00:25 |
| jelkner | th1a: r u here? | 00:26 |
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| jelkner | fsufitch: i need to run | 00:37 |
| jelkner | can i call you this evening? | 00:37 |
| fsufitch | jelkner: sure! | 00:37 |
| fsufitch | ttys :) | 00:37 |
| jelkner | actually i have 10 minutes now | 00:38 |
| jelkner | can we skype? | 00:38 |
| jelkner | fsufitchi: can we? | 00:39 |
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| th1a | Hm... I think I need some ZCML-foo to get the gradebook_battleground package working. | 17:46 |
| ignas | hmm? | 17:46 |
| ignas | ahh | 17:46 |
| ignas | there is no school setup that does that | 17:46 |
| ignas | so remove the old instance | 17:46 |
| th1a | ok | 17:47 |
| ignas | create a new one | 17:47 |
| ignas | open instance/school.zcml | 17:47 |
| ignas | and add <instance package="schooltool.gradebook" /> | 17:47 |
| th1a | or "schooltool.gradebook_battleground"? | 17:49 |
| ignas | nope | 17:51 |
| ignas | schooltool.gradebooj | 17:51 |
| ignas | and in buildout.cfg | 17:51 |
| ignas | in develop = | 17:51 |
| ignas | put a path to your battleground checkout | 17:52 |
| ignas | instead of your gradebook checkout | 17:52 |
| ignas | like ../schooltool.gradebook_battleground | 17:52 |
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| ignas | for example | 17:52 |
| th1a | OK. That makes sense. | 17:52 |
| ignas | zcml declarations are python path based not system path... | 17:53 |
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| fsufitch_ | aelkner: ping | 18:18 |
| fsufitch_ | th1a: ping | 18:19 |
| jstraw | pong | 18:25 |
| fsufitch_ | jstraw: wrong person ;) but maybe u know the answer | 18:25 |
| fsufitch_ | does schooltool know how to integrate with kerberos? | 18:25 |
| ignas | fsufitch_: no | 18:29 |
| fsufitch_ | gah >.< | 18:29 |
| fsufitch_ | let me put it a broader way: if i wanted to let schooltool use the logins that the school already has for people here, what would i have to provide it with? | 18:30 |
| fsufitch_ | here = TJ (my high school) | 18:30 |
| ignas | i would suggest either looking at LDAP | 18:32 |
| ignas | and schooltool.ldap | 18:32 |
| fsufitch_ | i think out school supports ldap | 18:32 |
| ignas | though - that's kind of unstable | 18:32 |
| fsufitch_ | not fully sure though | 18:32 |
| fsufitch_ | okayyy | 18:32 |
| fsufitch_ | then wat else? | 18:32 |
| ignas | or - you can look at rubycasserver | 18:32 |
| ignas | or the java CAS server | 18:32 |
| fsufitch_ | CAS = ? | 18:32 |
| ignas | and see what kinds of credential authentication systems they support | 18:32 |
| ignas | http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=cas | 18:33 |
| ignas | http://www.ja-sig.org/products/cas/ | 18:33 |
| ignas | Central Authentication Service. | 18:33 |
| fsufitch_ | ah | 18:33 |
| ignas | there are 2 servers ja-sig one | 18:33 |
| ignas | and a ruby one | 18:33 |
| ignas | and both of them support external databases for authentication | 18:33 |
| ignas | like SQL database | 18:33 |
| ignas | or LDAP | 18:33 |
| ignas | or whatever else is that they support ;) | 18:33 |
| ignas | so you set up CAS server | 18:33 |
| fsufitch_ | and there's like a schooltool.cas? | 18:34 |
| ignas | point it at your login storage thingie | 18:34 |
| ignas | yeah | 18:34 |
| ignas | it's more stable, because aelkner has to deploy it for SAL | 18:34 |
| ignas | SLA | 18:34 |
| fsufitch_ | i see | 18:34 |
| ignas | so it must work, while schooltool.ldap - should work ;) | 18:34 |
| fsufitch_ | i know how it goes :-P | 18:35 |
| fsufitch_ | XP and all | 18:35 |
| ignas | nah, just - no one is using LDAP | 18:35 |
| ignas | and i don't have the time to maintain something no one is using | 18:35 |
| fsufitch_ | well yeah, there's no client to provide bug reports | 18:35 |
| ignas | yep | 18:35 |
| fsufitch_ | anyway, yeah, i'll look into that | 18:36 |
| fsufitch_ | one more question | 18:36 |
| ignas | yes | 18:36 |
| fsufitch_ | i am currently uberconfused as to how buildout works >_> | 18:36 |
| th1a | We NEED people to try LDAP. | 18:36 |
| fsufitch_ | th1a: LDAP for TJ could be somethign i could focus on at the end of the year, but atm i need to focus on just getting it working and get my project up and running | 18:37 |
| ignas | th1a: you can do ldap through CAS | 18:37 |
| ignas | and CAS servers support LDAP better | 18:37 |
| ignas | not just considering bugs | 18:37 |
| ignas | but configuration options as well | 18:38 |
| th1a | Ah... That makes sense. | 18:38 |
| ignas | th1a: i am having problems making ldap packages apt-get able too | 18:39 |
| th1a | In what sense? | 18:39 |
| ignas | well - there is this "python-ldap" thing that needs specific openldap versions to get built | 18:40 |
| ignas | so making python-ldap egg (i can't even recall if there was an egg) buildable as a deb package | 18:40 |
| ignas | well - i could not create it in a straightforward manner | 18:41 |
| ignas | 6 months ago | 18:41 |
| ignas | and 3 months ago | 18:41 |
| ignas | and had no time to do it in a non-straightforward manner yet | 18:41 |
| th1a | OK. Don't sweat it. Anyone doing LDAP pretty much by definition has a sys admin who can follow instructions. | 18:41 |
| th1a | Which someday we'll have to write. | 18:41 |
| th1a | That is a good call on CAS vs. LDAP. | 18:43 |
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| aelkner | th1a: i see you had trouble with what to put in your school.zcml file | 19:05 |
| aelkner | the answer is <include package="school.gradebook"> and <include package="schooltool.requirement"> | 19:07 |
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| th1a | aelkner: Have you looked at yvl's branch? | 20:01 |
| th1a | patch, whatever. | 20:01 |
| mgedmin | bratch | 20:02 |
| mgedmin | panch | 20:02 |
| th1a | paunch | 20:03 |
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