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| th1a | aelkner_: You may find this interesting: http://faassen.n--tree.net/blog/view/weblog/2008/06/20/0 | 16:46 |
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| aelkner_ | hey th1a | 19:11 |
| th1a | Hey. | 19:11 |
| th1a | How are things? | 19:11 |
| aelkner_ | fine. i was up all night getting jelkner's bug fix int | 19:12 |
| aelkner_ | i'm waiting to hear from him that matt is ready | 19:12 |
| aelkner_ | i read the link you sent me | 19:12 |
| aelkner_ | what was the part that you found most interesting | 19:12 |
| th1a | Well, just the general discussion of object references vs. string references, which is something we've gone over before. | 19:13 |
| aelkner_ | you mean how ignas and i like to use ids to refer to person objects | 19:14 |
| th1a | Yes. | 19:14 |
| th1a | I don't mean the post is a strong argument one way or another. | 19:14 |
| aelkner_ | well, the thing about references that they can get broken | 19:14 |
| aelkner_ | or better yet | 19:15 |
| aelkner_ | if there is a reference out there | 19:15 |
| aelkner_ | and you try to delete the original | 19:15 |
| aelkner_ | it will still hang around due to the reference | 19:15 |
| aelkner_ | so if one does a 'del app['person']['jdoe'] | 19:16 |
| aelkner_ | it may be gone from the persons container | 19:16 |
| aelkner_ | but it will still hang around because it is referenced elsewhere | 19:17 |
| aelkner_ | because the reference count won't have gone to zero | 19:17 |
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| mattva01 | kk | 19:27 |
| mattva01 | i'm here | 19:27 |
| aelkner_ | hey matt | 19:28 |
| aelkner_ | so you already switched jelkner to the bzr repositories, right? | 19:28 |
| mattva01 | let me check | 19:29 |
| mattva01 | wow this server is running incredibly slowly | 19:30 |
| aelkner_ | maybe you should restart it | 19:31 |
| mattva01 | one sec | 19:31 |
| mattva01 | its hosted , so give me a sec | 19:31 |
| mattva01 | kk restarting | 19:33 |
| aelkner_ | unfortunately, i will be interrupted by a plumber who's arriving shortly | 19:34 |
| aelkner_ | it will only take me five or ten minutes to get him started on the job | 19:35 |
| aelkner_ | but i will be unavailable at that time | 19:35 |
| mattva01 | ok | 19:37 |
| mattva01 | ok its done | 19:37 |
| aelkner_ | so you're looking at where the server is run? | 19:38 |
| aelkner_ | does it come up automatically on restart? | 19:38 |
| aelkner_ | using init.d | 19:38 |
| mattva01 | yep | 19:38 |
| aelkner_ | so where does the init.d script start it out of | 19:38 |
| mattva01 | sorry I'm checking some stuff,just a sec | 19:40 |
| mattva01 | yes they are switched | 19:42 |
| mattva01 | (I figured out what was causing the speed issues and had to fix it) | 19:43 |
| mattva01 | so what do I do ? | 19:44 |
| mattva01 | aelkner_:? | 19:44 |
| mattva01 | oh guess the plumber came' | 19:44 |
| aelkner_ | i'm back | 19:54 |
| aelkner_ | he's set up | 19:54 |
| aelkner_ | so go to the schooltool.gradebook dir | 19:54 |
| aelkner_ | do a bzr info and tell me what branch it's pointing to | 19:55 |
| aelkner_ | mattva01: ping | 19:55 |
| mattva01 | pong | 19:55 |
| aelkner_ | just wan't sure you were looking at the chat screen | 19:55 |
| mattva01 | oh yeah :) | 19:56 |
| aelkner_ | so? | 19:56 |
| mattva01 | http://staging.schooltool.org/bzr2/schooltool/aelkner/schooltool.gradebook/schooltool.gradebook_aelkner/ | 19:56 |
| aelkner_ | cool, already? | 19:56 |
| aelkner_ | what revision number? | 19:57 |
| aelkner_ | weird how bzr info doesn't give that number | 19:57 |
| mattva01 | 37 | 19:58 |
| aelkner_ | how did you get that number | 19:59 |
| aelkner_ | i did bzr log | head | 19:59 |
| aelkner_ | but that's lame | 19:59 |
| mattva01 | thats what I did | 19:59 |
| mattva01 | well bzr log --forward | 20:00 |
| aelkner_ | bzr st doesn't work like svn st | 20:00 |
| mattva01 | let me check | 20:00 |
| aelkner_ | svn st says 'At revision x' | 20:00 |
| aelkner_ | oh, no | 20:00 |
| aelkner_ | not true | 20:00 |
| aelkner_ | svn up does that | 20:00 |
| aelkner_ | so if you just bzr pull, you should get the latest revision, right? | 20:01 |
| mattva01 | yep | 20:01 |
| aelkner_ | go fot it | 20:01 |
| aelkner_ | restart the server and have jelkner call me | 20:01 |
| mattva01 | oh its bzr revno | 20:01 |
| aelkner_ | cool | 20:01 |
| aelkner_ | i'll have to make a note of that one | 20:02 |
| mattva01 | meh : http://staging.schooltool.org/bzr2/schooltool/aelkner/schooltool.gradebook/schooltool.gradebook_aelkner/ | 20:03 |
| mattva01 | oops | 20:03 |
| mattva01 | bzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(http://staging.schooltool.org/bzr2/schooltool/.bzr/repository/lock): Transport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir() | 20:03 |
| mattva01 | what was public one again? | 20:03 |
| aelkner_ | ignas: i keep forgetting what this is caused by? | 20:03 |
| aelkner_ | mattva01: the http one is the public one | 20:04 |
| aelkner_ | th1a: do you know what causes that error? | 20:04 |
| th1a | Permission, I think. | 20:05 |
| aelkner_ | but why? | 20:05 |
| th1a | What are you trying to do? | 20:05 |
| aelkner_ | matt needs to pull my updates to his server | 20:05 |
| ignas | pull? | 20:06 |
| ignas | really? | 20:06 |
| ignas | pull | 20:06 |
| aelkner_ | that's what the bzr docs say | 20:06 |
| ignas | where? | 20:06 |
| aelkner_ | he's already pointing to my branch | 20:06 |
| aelkner_ | and he's one revision behind | 20:06 |
| ignas | bzr docs have one mention of pull, and even that is not in any examples | 20:06 |
| aelkner_ | one sec | 20:06 |
| ignas | the docs that I wrote | 20:06 |
| ignas | he should do "bzr status" | 20:07 |
| ignas | if there are any local changes - do bzr revert | 20:07 |
| ignas | and do "bzr up" | 20:07 |
| aelkner_ | http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/bzr.dev/tutorial.html | 20:07 |
| aelkner_ | the section on Folling upstream changes | 20:07 |
| mattva01 | hmm it says it up to date | 20:07 |
| aelkner_ | Following | 20:07 |
| ignas | oh | 20:08 |
| ignas | bzr docs | 20:08 |
| ignas | well - bzr docs are dealing with a branch | 20:08 |
| ignas | not a checkout | 20:08 |
| ignas | and is talking about following upstream while developing on your own branch | 20:09 |
| aelkner_ | so there are no docs about a checkout? | 20:09 |
| ignas | there are | 20:09 |
| ignas | not in the tutorial though | 20:09 |
| aelkner_ | the users guide | 20:10 |
| aelkner_ | i haven't read that on yet | 20:10 |
| ignas | 5.3.5 Updating to the latest content | 20:10 |
| ignas | bzr update | 20:10 |
| aelkner_ | yep | 20:10 |
| aelkner_ | mattva01: what does bzr revno say now | 20:10 |
| ignas | mattva01: careful with bzr up, check bzr status, and only bzr up if there are no local changes | 20:11 |
| aelkner_ | he won't make local changes | 20:11 |
| ignas | pull | 20:11 |
| ignas | might have made them | 20:11 |
| mattva01 | i did not make local changes here | 20:11 |
| aelkner_ | did you do the pull command | 20:12 |
| ignas | i know | 20:12 |
| ignas | but you did the pull ocmmand | 20:12 |
| mattva01 | Using saved location: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~schooltool-owners/schooltool/schooltool.gradebook/ | 20:12 |
| mattva01 | bzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(http://staging.schooltool.org/bzr2/schooltool/.bzr/repository/lock): Transport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir() | 20:12 |
| aelkner_ | yes, that's the pull command | 20:12 |
| mattva01 | bzr up says its up to date at revision 37 | 20:12 |
| aelkner_ | should he just do a fresh checkout | 20:13 |
| ignas | he should do "bzr status" | 20:13 |
| mattva01 | unknown: | 20:13 |
| mattva01 | python/ | 20:13 |
| mattva01 | src/schooltool.gradebook.egg-info/ | 20:13 |
| ignas | it seems good then | 20:14 |
| ignas | he has everything that he needs it seems | 20:14 |
| aelkner_ | so why is he at revision 37 and i am at 38 | 20:14 |
| ignas | aelkner_: bzr info | 20:14 |
| aelkner_ | Repository tree (format: pack-0.92) | 20:15 |
| aelkner_ | Location: | 20:15 |
| aelkner_ | shared repository: /home/aelkner/schooltool_sandbox | 20:15 |
| aelkner_ | repository branch: . | 20:15 |
| aelkner_ | Related branches: | 20:15 |
| aelkner_ | push branch: bzr+ssh://schooltool.org/aelkner/schooltool.gradebook/schooltool.gradebook_aelkner/ | 20:15 |
| aelkner_ | parent branch: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eschooltool-owners/schooltool/schooltool.gradebook/ | 20:15 |
| ignas | mattva01: bzr info | 20:15 |
| ignas | aelkner_: you are not using a checkout | 20:15 |
| mattva01 | Repository checkout (format: pack-0.92) | 20:15 |
| mattva01 | Location: | 20:15 |
| mattva01 | repository checkout root: . | 20:15 |
| mattva01 | checkout of branch: http://staging.schooltool.org/bzr2/schooltool/aelkner/schooltool.gradebook/schooltool.gradebook_aelkner/ | 20:15 |
| mattva01 | shared repository: /home/mgallagh/schooltool_sandbox | 20:15 |
| mattva01 | Related branches: | 20:15 |
| ignas | aelkner_: your changes won't get published unless you bzr push | 20:15 |
| mattva01 | parent branch: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eschooltool-owners/schooltool/schooltool.gradebook/ | 20:15 |
| ignas | aelkner_: you are using a simple branch | 20:16 |
| aelkner_ | i did this at one point | 20:16 |
| aelkner_ | bzr push --create-prefix bzr+ssh://schooltool.org/aelkner/schooltool.gradebook/schooltool.gradebook_fix_broken_grades/ | 20:16 |
| aelkner_ | replacing the part at the end | 20:16 |
| aelkner_ | then i did bzr ci to it | 20:17 |
| ignas | aelkner_: push will not make your branch a checkout | 20:18 |
| ignas | it will publish it in it's current state | 20:18 |
| ignas | ci will still commit to your local branch | 20:18 |
| ignas | so you either bind it and then when it is a checkout use it as a checkout | 20:18 |
| ignas | or commit changes locally and push | 20:18 |
| ignas | every time you want to publish them | 20:18 |
| aelkner_ | just bzr push, no args | 20:19 |
| ignas | yep, no args | 20:19 |
| ignas | push branch: bzr+ssh://schooltool.org/aelkner/schooltool.gradebook/schooltool.gradebook_aelkner/ | 20:19 |
| ignas | is already set | 20:19 |
| aelkner_ | got it | 20:20 |
| ignas | and if you'd look at my docs - http://schooltool.pov.lt/docs/dev_sandbox.html#deploying-more-than-1-feature | 20:20 |
| ignas | after "publish it" | 20:20 |
| ignas | there is a step for "Make commits go directly to that branch" | 20:20 |
| aelkner_ | i've read your docs more than once | 20:20 |
| aelkner_ | it just doesn't stick quick;y | 20:20 |
| aelkner_ | i need time to get my mind around these concepts | 20:21 |
| aelkner_ | you mention merge there | 20:21 |
| aelkner_ | so i ignored it | 20:21 |
| aelkner_ | cause i wasn't thinking about merging | 20:22 |
| aelkner_ | mattva01: could you try bzr up again now | 20:22 |
| ignas | ok, have to go now | 20:23 |
| ignas | bye | 20:23 |
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| mattva01 | kk updating | 20:26 |
| aelkner_ | mattva01: what happened | 20:29 |
| mattva01 | starting it now | 20:30 |
| aelkner_ | did you check the revision number | 20:30 |
| mattva01 | 38 | 20:31 |
| mattva01 | transfered | 21:17 |
| aelkner_ | mattva01: where did you put the file | 21:21 |
| mattva01 | k now | 21:21 |
| aelkner_ | ah ha | 21:21 |
| aelkner_ | ok, thanks | 21:21 |
| aelkner_ | i'll talk to you tomorrow night | 21:22 |
| mattva01 | sounds good | 21:22 |
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