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| th1a | aelkner: Did you help Marcy out adding students to sections? | 17:13 |
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| aelkner | yes | 17:14 |
| th1a | Any lessons for us, other than that I need to get cracking on docs? | 17:14 |
| aelkner | we could use a better interface | 17:15 |
| aelkner | docs just covers up the stink | 17:15 |
| th1a | Better interface for? | 17:16 |
| aelkner | persons, sections | 17:16 |
| aelkner | it's non-intuiative | 17:16 |
| aelkner | and it doesn't have to be | 17:16 |
| aelkner | CanDo doeswn't need any docs | 17:16 |
| th1a | Yes, but specifically. | 17:17 |
| aelkner | i could send you my note | 17:18 |
| aelkner | i didn't know that she sent it to you, too | 17:18 |
| aelkner | i should have replied to all | 17:18 |
| aelkner | sent | 17:19 |
| th1a | Thanks. | 17:20 |
| aelkner | um, you weren't on that list, how did you know? | 17:20 |
| aelkner | oh, i see | 17:21 |
| aelkner | she sent the other note before she read mine | 17:21 |
| th1a | Oh yeah. Creating a screen that lets you easily schedule a single student into sections proved to be difficult to do well. | 17:22 |
| th1a | It was definitely something that was hard to explain to Lithuanians. | 17:22 |
| aelkner | we should eventually sprint on this part of the UI | 17:23 |
| aelkner | maybe, the CanDo folks could contribute | 17:23 |
| th1a | aelkner: Could you send me your sprint report as a text file attachment? | 17:24 |
| aelkner | ok | 17:24 |
| th1a | I'd rather have developers working with users on UI, rather than with each other. | 17:24 |
| aelkner | Yes, we need users | 17:26 |
| th1a | Like... Marcie! | 17:26 |
| aelkner | we would need a way to arrange that | 17:27 |
| aelkner | yes! | 17:27 |
| aelkner | i see where you're going with this :) | 17:27 |
| aelkner | like me as the developer and Marcie as the user... | 17:27 |
| th1a | It is probably a high post-October priority. | 17:28 |
| aelkner | only, i think welsh and jelkner are two users that would have something to say | 17:28 |
| aelkner | and jason for that matter | 17:28 |
| th1a | Sure. | 17:28 |
| aelkner | maybe they would come up to philly for a UI sprint | 17:29 |
| aelkner | and chris could have some things to contribute as well | 17:29 |
| * th1a is more dubious than aelkner about UI sprints as a concept. | 17:29 | |
| aelkner | he's a kind of developer/user hybrid | 17:30 |
| aelkner | it's a UI sprint that got us the CanDo UI | 17:31 |
| aelkner | was that so bad | 17:31 |
| th1a | It got us a lot of other stuff we just threw away, too. | 17:31 |
| aelkner | i'm talking about the second one | 17:32 |
| aelkner | i wasn't at the first one | 17:32 |
| th1a | Let me put it this way -- improving individual screens and forms is not a special event. It will be increasingly the entire job. | 17:33 |
| aelkner | problem with it being a do it here and there kind of thing is | 17:33 |
| aelkner | that you get what you already have | 17:33 |
| aelkner | something that appeals to one user | 17:33 |
| aelkner | and horrifies others | 17:33 |
| aelkner | UI development requires eyeballs | 17:34 |
| aelkner | and someone to collate the results | 17:34 |
| aelkner | into something that has a more mass appeal | 17:34 |
| th1a | Well, what you might not fully appreciate yet is how carefully the eyeballs you're working with have been selected. | 17:34 |
| aelkner | well, if you think that i can come up with something between myself and them, then fine | 17:35 |
| aelkner | i accept the task | 17:35 |
| aelkner | i | 17:35 |
| aelkner | i | 17:35 |
| aelkner | i'm just saying that the more the merrier | 17:35 |
| aelkner | but then again, i'm not the one who needs to travel in the case of such a sprint | 17:36 |
| th1a | I'm just saying more is not necessarily merrier. It can slow things down quite a bit. | 17:36 |
| aelkner | sorry, but not in my experience | 17:37 |
| aelkner | one just needs to coordinate the multiple people in an effective way | 17:37 |
| aelkner | remember i attended a seminar on this | 17:37 |
| aelkner | it's analogous to test-marketing | 17:38 |
| aelkner | there's a reason they let people see a film before they release it | 17:38 |
| aelkner | it gives them a chance to change the ending (see The Player by Robert Altman) | 17:38 |
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| aelkner | eldar: what's up? | 18:34 |
| aelkner | where did you start yesterday? | 18:35 |
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