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| balor | Is schootool on Gutsy simply broken (I get a failed depend on python2.4-schoolbell)? | 12:30 |
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| mgedmin | could be | 12:39 |
| mgedmin | the packaged version is ancient | 12:39 |
| Fujitsu | balor: Yes, it is broken in Ubuntu Feisty and Gutsy. | 12:40 |
| Fujitsu | We were promised a new version for Gutsy... but... | 12:40 |
| balor | Fujitsu: is there an ETA on fixing it? | 12:40 |
| mgedmin | we vere promised a zope 3.4 release before gutsy, but... :( | 12:40 |
| Fujitsu | We would have probably removed it from the archive if we knew there wasn't going to be a new release. | 12:40 |
| Fujitsu | balor: In Gutsy? Probably never. | 12:40 |
| Fujitsu | Maybe for Hardy. | 12:40 |
| Fujitsu | mgedmin: Isn't 3.4 never going to release, though? | 12:41 |
| mgedmin | I've no idea | 12:41 |
| mgedmin | the zope 3 world is in the middle of the egg revolution and nothing is settled | 12:41 |
| balor | Fujitsu: I have a student working on some plug-ins for Schooltool. Should I tell them simply to work on the main branch from launchpad? | 12:41 |
| balor | Fujitsu: or is there a better "main" source? | 12:42 |
| Fujitsu | balor: The main svn branch is better, but I have minimal dealings with SchoolTool. I'm more an Ubuntu person, though I have attacked bits of schooltool a couple of times. | 12:43 |
| balor | Fujitsu: thanks. Is that on Launchpad? | 12:43 |
| balor | I just cant find the SVN source on the homepage | 12:44 |
| balor | source.st.org | 12:44 |
| Fujitsu | balor: It will be mirrored on Launchpad as a bzr branch, but I think the original is on source.schooltool.org. | 12:44 |
| Fujitsu | Yeah. | 12:44 |
| balor | Fujitsu: many thanks | 12:44 |
| Fujitsu | No problem, hopefully I was helpful. | 12:44 |
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| jelkner | Anyone here? | 14:44 |
| * Fujitsu hides, though very probably not someone you're looking for. | 14:45 | |
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| Lumiere | balor: here still? | 15:25 |
| balor | Lumiere: yeah | 15:25 |
| Lumiere | http://www.schooltool.org/weblog/archive/2007/07/20/new-test-packages-for-ubuntu-feisty | 15:26 |
| Lumiere | I would assume those could work | 15:26 |
| balor | thanks | 15:27 |
| Lumiere | but using a trunk svn and making a bzr branch of the plugins may be the best way to go long term | 15:28 |
| Lumiere | if you plan on continuing development | 15:28 |
| ignas | someone wants to develop a new schooltool "plugin" or rather a "configuration" ? | 15:28 |
| Lumiere | 05:10:42 < balor> Fujitsu: I have a student working on some plug-ins for Schooltool. Should I tell them simply to work on the main branch from launchpad? | 15:31 |
| ignas | main branch being schooltool's main branch? | 15:31 |
| ignas | and what kinds of plugins are they? | 15:31 |
| balor | ignas: rollbook stuff | 15:33 |
| ignas | rollbook? | 15:33 |
| balor | ignas: rollbook as in whether students are in or out of class | 15:34 |
| ignas | so your plugin has it's own persistent objects and stuff, but is still meant to be added to an existing school | 15:35 |
| ignas | or is it a part of CanDo? | 15:35 |
| balor | ignas: probably part of CanDO | 15:54 |
| balor | ignas: It's a student project, I'm the lecturer. So I want them to figure out the solution themselves | 15:55 |
| ignas | i see :) | 15:55 |
| ignas | a bit cruel knowing that there is no defined way of doing schooltool/Cando plugins | 15:56 |
| balor | ignas: Is there a concept of a list of students in a class in SchoolTool? | 15:56 |
| ignas | what are you calling a class? | 15:57 |
| ignas | a section meeting? | 15:57 |
| balor | ignas: I'm imagining ST as an administrative tool for teachers (I may have this all wrong) and that there would be a list of students in their class on the ST system. | 15:57 |
| ignas | what are you calling a class? | 15:58 |
| balor | ignas: I want the student to extend ST so that the teacher can use it as an electronic roll book | 15:58 |
| balor | ignas: Excuse my Irish educational system :) class == form == assignment of students to a teacher for a subject | 15:58 |
| ignas | on one hand - there is attendance module in schooltool for what it's worth, just that it's not turned on by default | 15:59 |
| ignas | the thing you are calling a class | 15:59 |
| ignas | in schooltool is called a section | 15:59 |
| ignas | so yes - there is a list of students in a section | 15:59 |
| balor | excellent | 15:59 |
| balor | I actually don't want them to write the attendance module, just make it a web-service and write a fat-client attendance GUI. | 16:00 |
| balor | But that's just me :) | 16:00 |
| ignas | oh | 16:00 |
| balor | But if the attendance module needs to be extended, they'll have to do it. | 16:01 |
| ignas | are you using REST for communication with schooltool then | 16:02 |
| ignas | i mean it would be more appropriate for a fat-client GUI | 16:02 |
| ignas | localhost:7001/sections/section_id/relationships/ (if you turn it on in the schooltool.conf) | 16:04 |
| balor | ignas: that's the idea | 16:04 |
| ignas | oh | 16:04 |
| ignas | i see | 16:04 |
| ignas | i assumed that you are trying to write a new schooltool module | 16:04 |
| balor | I didn't know that REST was built in by default though | 16:04 |
| ignas | well - you must enable it in schooltool.conf | 16:04 |
| balor | ignas: I'm not used to the school tool development language. So I just use the term "module" generically. | 16:05 |
| ignas | if using trunk checkout or a tarball it will be on a different port | 16:05 |
| ignas | in buildout configuration it moved to localhost:7080/api/ ... | 16:05 |
| * ignas just realized that balor is Ireland related nickname :) | 16:07 | |
| balor | yeah | 17:01 |
| balor | got to go...late for class | 17:02 |
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| Lumiere | jinty: how's the east coast of the US? | 19:39 |
| Lumiere | oh wait... jinty's here | 19:39 |
| jinty | Hey Lumiere, pretty sunny right now | 19:39 |
| Lumiere | in DC | 19:39 |
| jinty | :) | 19:39 |
| jinty | wanna catch a drink somewhere? | 19:39 |
| Lumiere | damn it... XD you should have told us :) | 19:39 |
| Lumiere | well... I am at work | 19:39 |
| jinty | I'll be here till sunday | 19:40 |
| jinty | I wanted to organize a meetup with the cando people | 19:40 |
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| Lumiere | it' sstill doable probably | 19:40 |
| th1a_ | jinty: hi. | 19:40 |
| jinty | hey th1a_ | 19:40 |
| jinty | I want to phone you about the zope3 release | 19:40 |
| th1a_ | Yes... I sent you one of my periodic spastic emails. | 19:41 |
| th1a_ | I'm in Vilnius, though. | 19:41 |
| jinty | th1a_: you have a skype id? | 19:41 |
| jinty | or some other way of speaking by voice? | 19:42 |
| * jinty get's tired of typing | 19:42 | |
| th1a_ | I do... | 19:42 |
| * Lumiere -> video conference | 19:42 | |
| jinty | Lumiere: basically I'm free most evenings | 19:42 |
| th1a_ | I think I'm tom_hoffman. | 19:42 |
| th1a_ | I don't know for sure that my sound works, either. | 19:42 |
| jinty | th1a_: not sure I'm seeing you | 19:43 |
| jinty | lot's of tom hoffmans around | 19:44 |
| th1a_ | I am tom_hoffman. | 19:44 |
| Lumiere | brb... going for a walk to get my conference room | 19:45 |
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