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| aquarius_work | Is povbot` a bot that reports SVN commits? | 12:59 |
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| jinty | aquarius_work: yep | 13:08 |
| aquarius_work | jinty: cool. is its code available? | 13:12 |
| mg|away | aquarius_work: it's supybot | 13:12 |
| mg|away | with some plugin that reports lines appended to a plain text file | 13:13 |
| mg|away | and a subversion post-commit hook that appends the said lines to the said file | 13:13 |
| mg|away | povbot` also keeps irc logs | 13:13 |
| povbot` | mg|away: Error: "also" is not a valid command. | 13:13 |
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| aquarius_work | mgedmin: aha, got it | 13:14 |
| aquarius_work | I was trying to avoid writing my own :) | 13:14 |
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| th1a | So is this a bad time then? | 16:22 |
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| alga | I suppose I could phone him... | 16:25 |
| th1a | Well, I had been hoping to have a rough proposal by now, but with the sprint going on it didn't happen. | 16:29 |
| th1a | I have a list of things that needs to be fleshed out. | 16:30 |
| alga | Ignas said he's going to be in in about 20 mins | 16:30 |
| th1a | So I just need to write that stuff up today and email it. | 16:30 |
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| alga | OK | 16:38 |
| alga | Well, our link is now up for 11 mins in a row | 16:38 |
| alga | I'm hopping off GPRS | 16:38 |
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| th1a | OK. We'll have a short meeting when ignas arrives. | 16:39 |
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| ignas | hi | 16:49 |
| th1a | ignas: Hi. | 16:49 |
| ignas | sorry, for being late :/ | 16:50 |
| th1a | np | 16:50 |
| ignas | our cloning vats were out of order today :( | 16:51 |
| th1a | So I have a rough list of things to be done, which I'll flesh out later today. | 16:51 |
| ignas | mostly UI work ? or UI and memory consumption measuring? | 16:52 |
| th1a | Well, the first part of the rough list is here: http://source.schooltool.org/irclogs/%23schooltool.2006-07-27.log.html | 16:52 |
| th1a | In the form of a dialogue. | 16:52 |
| th1a | I need to go through the existing views and indicate what needs to be changed/removed. | 16:53 |
| ignas | ok | 16:53 |
| * ignas is reading the transcript | 16:53 | |
| ignas | "temporary tabs use session data to store themselves." is not exactly a good idea ... | 16:55 |
| ignas | invisible state stored in session affecting UI stuff is a debatable thing | 16:56 |
| ignas | i would like to keep the UI stateless as much as possible | 16:57 |
| ignas | encoding the information in URLs | 16:57 |
| ignas | if possible | 16:57 |
| ignas | if not, i'll do the session stuff | 16:57 |
| ignas | though it is the same as global variables in programming, useful but must be used with great care | 16:58 |
| th1a | Yes... | 16:58 |
| th1a | I'm a little dubious about using URLs, though. | 16:58 |
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| th1a | ignas: Do you need more explanation of the temporary tabs in general? alga has seen them in action. | 16:59 |
| ignas | from what i understand, pcardune already came up with a picture of some implementation for the stuff | 17:02 |
| th1a | Actually, I guess it is more than a picture at this point. | 17:02 |
| ignas | though i would still like to know the exact problem that has to be solved | 17:02 |
| th1a | It is implemented in the branch. | 17:02 |
| ignas | oh | 17:03 |
| ignas | so what would PoV have to do ? | 17:03 |
| th1a | So I guess if you want to see how it works you can just look at it ;-) | 17:03 |
| th1a | Well, that's what pcardune and I were discussing... we have to hand it off to you to finish and merge. | 17:04 |
| th1a | But you'll be able to refactor as necessary, if you think his implementation is broken in some way. | 17:04 |
| th1a | I suppose to make any kind of estimate you'll have to first understand what he's done. | 17:05 |
| th1a | So perhaps you should do that first. | 17:05 |
| ignas | yes indeed | 17:05 |
| ignas | as well as knowing what would constitute a "finished product" | 17:06 |
| ignas | the target | 17:06 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:06 |
| ignas | anything else before me going to read code, bug alga ? | 17:08 |
| alga | bug me? | 17:09 |
| ignas | for you were in sprint and hold great knowledge ... | 17:09 |
| th1a | Beyond that, alga and I were discussing creating a teacher-only workflow for attendance. | 17:10 |
| th1a | That is, there are really two attendance use cases in the world. | 17:10 |
| alga | yes | 17:10 |
| ignas | only 2 ? | 17:10 |
| alga | the simple one and the complex one :) | 17:10 |
| th1a | US public schools, where everything is routed through an attendance office, very formal. | 17:10 |
| th1a | (that's the one we've been focusing on) | 17:10 |
| th1a | And all other schools, where things are simply handled by the student's teacher. | 17:11 |
| th1a | That is excusing absences etc are handled by the teacher. | 17:11 |
| th1a | That's a slight oversimplification, but I think not much. | 17:11 |
| th1a | So we need to handle the informal workflow as well as the formal one. | 17:12 |
| ignas | and when are we going to get our first client ? | 17:15 |
| th1a | Oh, we have clients. | 17:15 |
| ignas | the school PoV will be working closely with? | 17:15 |
| th1a | Oh... | 17:15 |
| th1a | I suppose that isn't really happening. | 17:16 |
| ignas | oh :) | 17:16 |
| th1a | There is still too much plain old coding that needs to be done. | 17:16 |
| th1a | August is devoted to setting up instances for schools for me though. | 17:16 |
| ignas | i see | 17:17 |
| th1a | So... I'll write this stuff up in more detail today, and your first task is to get familiar with Paul's code. | 17:20 |
| ignas | ok | 17:21 |
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| ignas | pcardune: ayt ? | 17:48 |
| pcardune | yes | 17:48 |
| pcardune | ignas, i'm here | 17:49 |
| ignas | how to access the new attendance view ? as attencance tab is pointing to "calendar/hurray| | 17:50 |
| pcardune | hmm, i seem to remember something like that | 17:51 |
| pcardune | you have to have attendance today | 17:51 |
| ignas | oh | 17:51 |
| pcardune | otherwise it would take you to non-existent reporting views | 17:51 |
| pcardune | Maybe it would be best to take you to a page that says "you have no attendance items today. what would you like to do?" and allow the user to select previous date or view reports, etc. | 17:52 |
| th1a | ignas: Ah... yes there are some other UI changes that extend beyond just using tabs. | 17:53 |
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