| mhz | what is the login info for Schooltool n :7080 ? | 01:00 |
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| mhz | Also, is there any url where I can test CanDo ? | 01:00 |
| mhz | the one suggested on the site is not working | 01:00 |
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| mhz | what is the login info for Schooltool n :7080 ? | 01:21 |
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| mhz | I have even read /usr/share/schooltool info | 01:30 |
| mhz | unsuccessfully. | 01:31 |
| mhz | I google, and no success either yet | 01:31 |
| mhz | I just wanna try Schooltool shiped by edubuntu | 01:31 |
| mhz | on localhost:7080 | 01:31 |
| mhz | No one knows the user/passwd ? | 01:31 |
| mhz | please | 01:42 |
| mhz | ok, if nobody knows what the default login info is, how about telling me how to reset it and assign a new user/pwd ? | 01:45 |
| mhz | yeah! | 01:50 |
| mhz | user: manager | 01:50 |
| mhz | pwd: schooltool | 01:50 |
| mhz | Okis, so schooltool is running under edubuntu | 03:00 |
| mhz | but... | 03:00 |
| mhz | I can't get to delete timetables | 03:00 |
| mhz | eventhough I have already set Access propoerly | 03:00 |
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| mhz | th1a: are you available? | 05:25 |
| mhz | th1a: so, how can I delete a TT? | 06:39 |
| mhz | i can't seem to find it | 06:39 |
| th1a | mhz: I don't think you can delete a TT in the version you're using, but you can in a more recent one. | 06:42 |
| th1a | There is no trick to it. | 06:42 |
| mhz | oh, so, I just upgrade to a newer one? | 06:42 |
| th1a | Other than having a new version ;-) | 06:42 |
| th1a | If you must be rid of the timetable. | 06:42 |
| th1a | You can also just ignore the faulty timetable. | 06:42 |
| mhz | hmmm, nah. I'll try to set a newer version, the one edgy should have | 06:46 |
| mhz | else, my appreciation will be totally diff | 06:46 |
| mhz | from reality | 06:46 |
| mhz | and I need to show something schools will use | 06:46 |
| th1a | mhz: Yep. | 06:54 |
| mhz | th1a: please note "I'll try" | 06:55 |
| mhz | :D | 06:55 |
| th1a | http://www.schooltool.org/st-products/schooltool-2006/schooltool-2006-alpha2 | 06:56 |
| mhz | yeah, I read it | 06:56 |
| mhz | it was surprisingly cool | 06:56 |
| mhz | and got me encouraged to jump in and test as much as I can | 06:56 |
| mhz | and then write about it for Edubutnu Handbool | 06:57 |
| mhz | k | 06:57 |
| th1a | Here's a mockup of the new UI, which is mostly implemented as well (maybe 60%): | 06:57 |
| th1a | http://tuttlesvc.teacherhosting.com/pictures/screenshot.png | 06:57 |
| mhz | nice! | 06:59 |
| th1a | So what we did discover is that sprints work well. | 07:00 |
| * mhz scratches his head...why did he not have such tools when he used to teach!? | 07:00 | |
| mhz | I am only used to read about the sprints | 07:00 |
| th1a | So we'll be doing more, at ed-tech conferences and schools. | 07:00 |
| mhz | I hope one day soon I can afford to attend one | 07:01 |
| th1a | I need to finish writing up a report of last week. | 07:01 |
| mhz | yeah, only 3 weeks ago, I organized a 2days event in Chile about FLOSS for Education | 07:01 |
| mhz | it was pretty interesting | 07:01 |
| th1a | I'm planning on shifting funding from contract development to sprints. | 07:02 |
| th1a | So we can cover some travel expenses, etc. | 07:02 |
| th1a | Next year. | 07:02 |
| mhz | I could get little sponsorship, but we could invite a person form Italy, Germany, Colombia and Venezuela | 07:02 |
| mhz | we got lots of info about IT for Education needs | 07:02 |
| mhz | from teachers | 07:02 |
| mhz | yeah, I guess that should work well | 07:03 |
| th1a | Basically, we had our sprint at a regional conference for open source at schools (http://nelinux.net). | 07:04 |
| th1a | We had a couple presentations the first morning, got some interesting feedback, | 07:04 |
| th1a | wrote a bunch of code the next day and a half, and presented the results at the end of the conference. | 07:04 |
| th1a | It was a big success all around, and I think it helped the attendees understand how open source really works. | 07:05 |
| mhz | yeah | 07:07 |
| mhz | my event was more of a Fair | 07:07 |
| mhz | or Feria | 07:08 |
| mhz | it was to attract teachers, schools, adn principals to see FLOSS as a valid alternative on Learning processes | 07:08 |
| th1a | We need those, too. | 07:09 |
| mhz | eek, my wife needs me for 10 minutes :( | 07:10 |
| mhz | hehe | 07:10 |
| * mhz will be back in 10 minutes | 07:10 | |
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| mhz | th1a: I am bit confused | 18:18 |
| mhz | I am logged in Plone (schooltool.org) | 18:18 |
| mhz | I can't seem to find the way to translate some pages content into Spanish | 18:18 |
| mhz | is that supposed to be from Rosetta (in Launchpad?)? | 18:19 |
| th1a | mhz: Yes? | 18:19 |
| mhz | oh, hi there | 18:19 |
| mhz | :) | 18:19 |
| th1a | You mean, you can translate some of the pages but not others? | 18:19 |
| mhz | nope, I want translate 2 pages today "helpWanted" and "...Alpha news" | 18:20 |
| mhz | and I dont get how to do it | 18:20 |
| mhz | :( | 18:20 |
| th1a | Like the front page? | 18:21 |
| * th1a just crawled out of bed. | 18:21 | |
| mhz | is it possible to translate the content at the website, from within it? | 18:21 |
| mhz | th1a: ooh, sorry... I can wait till you get a coffee :) | 18:21 |
| mhz | ooh, th1a duh! | 18:22 |
| mhz | "If you are interested in translating the site, email Tom Hoffman, and we'll set up your account to add translated content" | 18:22 |
| mhz | I had not read that part | 18:22 |
| mhz | oops | 18:22 |
| * mhz slaps himself | 18:22 | |
| mhz | well, IMHO, email or IRC, for this case it is the same. Anyways, I am 'mhz' | 18:23 |
| mhz | just created my account 5 minutes ago | 18:23 |
| th1a | The translation support for schooltool.org itself is still a little incomplete. | 18:24 |
| mhz | oh, i see | 18:25 |
| mhz | so, th1a, I can trasnlate it using my wiki site, then once finished, I can email the url to you and you paste it onto Plone? | 18:25 |
| mhz | th1a: also, I did some translations via Rosetta (LP) 9 hours ago | 18:29 |
| mhz | then I thought it was better to ask you first.. is there any priority for you regarding trasnlation for a specific page or contents ? | 18:30 |
| th1a | mhz: I seem to be having connection problems... | 18:34 |
| th1a | mhz: What we could use is a volunteer translation manager to help coordinate these things, | 18:35 |
| th1a | because I'm a monolingual English speaker. I try, but it isn't something I have a big connection to personally. | 18:35 |
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| mhz | @#$%$ | 19:01 |
| mhz | I do not understand what is going on | 19:01 |
| mhz | it is either freenode or my ISP | 19:02 |
| mhz | My guess is it's the freenode issue because I have been able to do other stuff in the web | 19:02 |
| mhz | th1a: last thin i read was : <th1a> because I'm a monolingual English speaker. I try, but it isn't something I have a big connection to personally. | 19:03 |
| mhz | after that, I wrote 6 lines.. did you get them? | 19:03 |
| mhz | th1a: there? | 19:11 |
| th1a | mhz: I didn't. | 19:20 |
| th1a | I seem to be back to normal. | 19:21 |
| mhz | okis, th1a I'll re send them | 19:23 |
| th1a | Thanks. | 19:23 |
| mhz | hmm, ok | 19:23 |
| mhz | th1a: however, I have no problem translating using my moin wiki and then send translation to you. | 19:23 |
| mhz | this way, you need no application for it | 19:23 |
| mhz | th1a: or you ment something else? | 19:23 |
| mhz | re connection/ Launchpad and ubuntu sites seem to be having issues | 19:23 |
| * mhz has not been able to connect to them for 40 minutes now | 19:24 | |
| mhz | th1a: that was it | 19:24 |
| th1a | mhz: Can you translate any pages on schooltool.org? Do I need to upgrade your permissions? | 19:25 |
| mhz | well, I could not, when we started chating this morning ?= | 19:26 |
| mhz | :) | 19:26 |
| mhz | I'll try again now | 19:26 |
| th1a | mhz: Oh, I thought you were asking about why you could translate some pages but not others. | 19:27 |
| mhz | hehehe | 19:27 |
| mhz | no worries | 19:27 |
| * mhz is not a good english speaker | 19:27 | |
| mhz | th1a: basically, I do not understand how I can trasnlate some pages on that Plone site | 19:28 |
| th1a | What is your username on schooltool.org? | 19:28 |
| mhz | and I am very interested n translating 2 of them: Help Wanted and The alpha release one | 19:28 |
| mhz | mhz | 19:29 |
| th1a | OK. Did you read this: http://www.schooltool.org/documentation/translating-schooltool.org | 19:30 |
| th1a | I elevated your permissions. | 19:30 |
| * mhz tabs | 19:30 | |
| mhz | th1a: so, it is just a matter of visiting the pages I am interested in, and click on 'Translate into' _ | 19:33 |
| mhz | ? | 19:33 |
| th1a | Hopefully :-) | 19:33 |
| mhz | hehe | 19:34 |
| mhz | th1a: 1st problem I get? | 19:34 |
| mhz | : | 19:34 |
| mhz | HelpWanted does not let me trasnlate into spanish | 19:35 |
| mhz | the spanish supposed version of it actually has no content | 19:35 |
| mhz | just a 'bounty-es' line | 19:35 |
| th1a | Hm... | 19:36 |
| mhz | oh, remove option :) | 19:36 |
| th1a | That's what I was going to suggest. | 19:36 |
| mhz | th1a: thanks, it is working smoothly! | 19:40 |
| th1a | Great! | 19:40 |
| mhz | th1a: hm, just I can't get to make the URL links to look as the source ones :p | 19:48 |
| mhz | duh, never mind | 19:56 |
| mhz | it does look the same after I save | 19:57 |
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| mhz | tsktsktsk..netsplit _ | 20:55 |
| mhz | ? | 20:55 |
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| reddux | Hi folks how goes it? | 21:19 |
| reddux | I was wondering if anyone can clue me up on more advanced methods of csv entry into schooltool | 21:20 |
| reddux | anyone? | 21:24 |
| reddux | lol | 21:24 |
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| reddux | when anyone sees this please msg me | 21:33 |
| reddux | If anyone has links to docs I can read about csv import methods that allow you import more than UserName, Firstname Lastname, passwd I'd appreciate it. Also if anyone has information on doing csv imports into cando that would rock too. --thanks ahead of time. | 21:54 |
| reddux | I can't decide which takes less time to get someone attention, email, snail mail, or irc..right now I'm leaning toward snail mail. | 22:02 |
| * reddux kciks up dust | 22:02 | |
| * reddux kicks up more dust | 22:03 | |
| * reddux gives up and lags out like the rest | 22:03 | |
| reddux | Anyway I have 3 years of student data to import + this is going to be a very visible demo used with the people at NCATE to show the abilities of school-tool and cando so when anyone gets a chance .please drop me a msg. It is important for me to be able to handle large dumps of student data into this app. | 22:19 |
| mhz_food | reddux: how soon you need this to be up? | 22:21 |
| reddux | heh mon-tuesday | 22:21 |
| reddux | just for example purposes but the accreditation project I'm doing it for starts in sept. | 22:22 |
| reddux | I mean I have everything work fine, then I follow the docs on the website about doing csv imports and it bjorks and fubars my whole persons part of the application | 22:23 |
| mhz_food | reddux: maybe askin th1a about it, as he is the most expereinced person around here | 22:23 |
| reddux | so I created a new db, then I did and svn update and looks like they have a good import tool now so I don't have to edit the scripts by hand.. | 22:24 |
| reddux | but the tool is limited and seems like it only deals with imports of username, firstname lastname, passwd and I need much more | 22:25 |
| reddux | I've been searching all the logs and see that pcardane seems to know how to do csv imports even into cando with competencies , this is what I need. so I'm hoping he logs on cause he seems to know whats up. | 22:25 |
| reddux | also if you'd rather not do this kind of one on one support type stuff with users..why not fix the comments on schooltool.org? | 22:33 |
| reddux | they seem to be broken | 22:33 |
| mhz_food | reddux: good observation | 22:40 |
| mhz_food | reddux: well, I am sure there are lots to do, however, many times, hands are not enough | 22:40 |
| mhz_food | that is why I jumped in yesterday and started contributing a bit | 22:40 |
| mhz_food | but i am still ignorant on how schooltool works | 22:41 |
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| reddux | mhz_food: your right but..I'm a linux admin, not a python programmer..so I'm pointing out things that are important even to and advanced user right from the start. The ability to automate and script data entry makes the difference as to whether this app will be used by small schools or increasingly bigger organizations. | 22:43 |
| mhz | reddux: 100 right | 22:43 |
| mhz | % | 22:43 |
| mhz | i totally agree | 22:43 |
| reddux | Also when I run an import script that deals with csv entry, and it breaks a category..to me that say hmm..shouldn't there be some sort of isolation programmed in so that if a script does something wrong it won't break the app? | 22:44 |
| reddux | Like I said I'm a n00b at python and not a super programmer, but to me that seems to make sense.. | 22:44 |
| mhz | reddux: i am no programmer | 22:45 |
| mhz | just a kind of end-user-teacher-junior-sysadmin | 22:45 |
| reddux | yeah me either or I probably wouldn't be asking for help here cause I'd have already written all the scripts and been on my merry way..I mean not to say I can't but like you I've been using this for about 2 days | 22:46 |
| reddux | I'm sure 1 week from now I'll be jamming. | 22:46 |
| mhz | hehe | 22:47 |
| reddux | It's just if there was a set method that dealt with csv import..and allowed more complex imports that would be cool..and I could focus on the huge task of creating student data for the last 3 years then setting up competencies and linking it all together. | 22:47 |
| reddux | anyway I appreciate you trying to help me..mhz | 22:49 |
| reddux | I'm afk for a while..so take care.. | 22:49 |
| mhz | reddux: pleas stop by and talk to th1a | 22:49 |
| reddux | I will later I'm basically gonna lag till someone msg me..I think thats how its done..I send him a private..so I'm sure he will get back to me. | 22:50 |
| mhz | he will | 22:51 |
| mhz | he's very commited | 22:51 |
| reddux | awesome..take care for now..I have to get food! | 22:51 |
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