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| mgedmin | what happened to the schoolbell 1.2.4/schooltool 0.11.4 releases? | 19:19 | 
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| mgedmin | I see tags in subversion, but nothing on schooltool.org | 19:19 | 
| ignas | mgedmin, maybe only Tom can upload new releases and stuff, and Tom was really busy/sick last couple of weeks ? | 19:20 | 
| tiredbones | srichter, I ran test.py with the option -h to see what --dir does. The option --dir is not on the help page. | 19:26 | 
| mgedmin | tiredbones, perhaps you are confusing SchoolTool's test.py with Zope3's test.py? | 19:32 | 
| th1a | mgedmin: Yes there are some things that need to be picked up off the floor. | 19:59 | 
| th1a | Now that I can get out of bed... | 19:59 | 
| th1a | I believe that the packages were pushed downstream to Ubuntu, which was the main worry (time-wise). | 20:01 | 
| mgedmin | dapper still has 1.2.3 | 20:11 | 
| th1a | Hm. That's not good. | 20:11 | 
| th1a | I'll have to ping jinty. | 20:11 | 
| th1a | I also had sent out new attendance stories before I left, but I did it via schooltool@schooltool.org so I guess you never got them. | 20:12 | 
| th1a | An open source project with broken mailing lists is in sad shape indeed. | 20:14 | 
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| srichter | yep :-) | 20:24 | 
| srichter | th1a: is there a general term for semester/trimester? | 20:25 | 
| srichter | should I call it n-mester? :-) | 20:25 | 
| th1a | Other than term? | 20:26 | 
| srichter | right | 20:26 | 
| srichter | basically the user chooses between academic year, n-mester, and grading period | 20:26 | 
| th1a | Hm... | 20:27 | 
| th1a | They both come from the latin mensis, for month. | 20:29 | 
| th1a | Well, I think we might need to call them terms. | 20:29 | 
| th1a | In the interface, at least. | 20:30 | 
| srichter | ok, that's fine | 20:30 | 
| srichter | th1a: do you think we can meet on Monday? | 20:30 | 
| th1a | We probably should. | 20:31 | 
| th1a | Right now I'm discovering that if I actually feel any stress, I immediately get a stomachache... | 20:31 | 
| th1a | But I imagine I'll be up to 100% by Monday. | 20:32 | 
| srichter | ok :-) | 20:32 | 
| * mgedmin restarts mailman on schooltool.org | 20:33 | |
| mgedmin | whoa -- load average: 38.40, 14.23, 5.28 | 20:34 | 
| srichter | holy shmoly! | 20:36 | 
| mgedmin | massive disk I/O, some swapping | 20:36 | 
| th1a | Yipes! | 20:38 | 
| mgedmin | load is down to 19.99 now | 20:39 | 
| th1a | mgedmin: Did you check that before you restarted mailman? | 20:39 | 
| mgedmin | no | 20:39 | 
| mgedmin | whoa, 1123 requests in the mail queue | 20:39 | 
| mgedmin | (there were 2 before I restarted mailman) | 20:40 | 
| mgedmin | scary | 20:40 | 
| mgedmin | is there a mail loop? | 20:40 | 
| th1a | What is a mail loop? | 20:40 | 
| mgedmin | bounces causing bounces or something like that | 20:40 | 
| mgedmin | look up "software laser" the jargon file | 20:41 | 
| mgedmin | 648 Requests in the mail queue | 20:41 | 
| mgedmin | so the number is going down | 20:41 | 
| mgedmin | how long was mailman stuck? | 20:41 | 
| th1a | I'm afraid it was probably about two weeks. | 20:42 | 
| mgedmin | that probably explains it | 20:42 | 
| mgedmin | I once saw a load average of 400 | 20:42 | 
| mgedmin | when a machine with nfs-mounted homes was without network connectivity for 2 days and tried to send an email from cron every 5 minutes | 20:43 | 
| mgedmin | and all the mails tried to go out at the same time, when network reappeared | 20:43 | 
| mgedmin | ok, the mailing list seems to be back up | 20:44 | 
| mgedmin | (if I knew it would be that easy, I would've restarted mailman when I first learned something was broken) | 20:44 | 
| th1a | Me too. | 20:45 | 
| tiredbones | mgedmin, I'm lookong for the Zope3's test.py. | 20:50 | 
| mgedmin | tiredbones, Zope3's test.py --help does indeed mention --dir (as an alias to -s and --package) | 20:50 | 
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| mgedmin | issues.schooltool.org seems to be fixed too -- I can log in now | 20:50 | 
| mgedmin | I didn't even restart roundup this time | 20:51 | 
| * mgedmin is mystified | 20:51 | |
| mgedmin | the schooltool.org machine could use a caring sysadmin | 20:51 | 
| tiredbones | mgedmin, On a second look, I stand corrected. thanks | 20:51 | 
| th1a | mgedmin: jinty fixed roundup. | 20:53 | 
| th1a | And he's going to become the paid, caring sysadmin once he gets back to Spain. | 20:53 | 
| mgedmin | yay | 20:54 | 
| mgedmin | jinty is my hero | 20:54 | 
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