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| srichter | ok, good news: Steelers won the Superbowl, so Tom will be in a good mood! :-) | 11:37 |
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| erchache | hi | 15:41 |
| ignas | hello | 15:51 |
| erchache | a second...i need to test new ssh acount for external backup's backup ;-) | 15:51 |
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| erchache | doomed communications! | 16:29 |
| erchache | i need mirinet! | 16:29 |
| th1a | erchache: What are you talking about? | 16:30 |
| th1a | Hi everyone. | 16:30 |
| srichter | hi | 16:30 |
| erchache | jejejeje....im sending backup files to a ssh container.... | 16:30 |
| erchache | and fails a lot! | 16:30 |
| srichter | so all the infrae guys should be here | 16:30 |
| erchache | cisco 2900 are bad configured | 16:30 |
| kitblake | hi everybody | 16:30 |
| ignas | hi | 16:30 |
| th1a | Yes, I want to welcome the Infrae team. | 16:31 |
| erchache | fucked mules....work less than santa claus | 16:31 |
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| th1a | erchache: OK, settle down. We're having a meeting here. | 16:31 |
| th1a | srichter: How have things been going in Rotterdam? | 16:32 |
| srichter | we have done the UI-based intro this morning/afternoon | 16:32 |
| kitblake | Stephan's been totally entertaining | 16:32 |
| srichter | and they have pages of UI suggestions already :-) | 16:32 |
| th1a | Fresh eyes = good. | 16:33 |
| srichter | (just kidding, they are still working on it ;-) | 16:33 |
| * srichter notes OT: THE STEELERS WON!!! (see title) | 16:33 | |
| thisfred | stefan's intoduction was pretty enlightening | 16:33 |
| gintas | hey | 16:34 |
| j-w | esp. when he was confused himself what action to click next... | 16:34 |
| j-w | :) | 16:34 |
| th1a | Steelers win! Tom doesn't fall asleep until almost 5:00 AM, thus is a zombie now. | 16:34 |
| faassen | I'm not sure I'm enlightened yet, but overall I don't feel very enlightened today. :) | 16:34 |
| * srichter saw the whole superbowl without a minute of commercials :-) | 16:34 | |
| kitblake | Stephan is not much better | 16:34 |
| * thisfred is sharp as a knife | 16:35 | |
| th1a | I might as well be jetlagged. | 16:35 |
| * mgedmin always thinks superbowl is some strange cereal eating contest | 16:35 | |
| j-w | LOL | 16:35 |
| srichter | he he | 16:35 |
| th1a | Also, I want to welcome gintas back to the fold. | 16:35 |
| faassen | I think I was in the US once when The Game was on. | 16:35 |
| gintas | as a matter of fact, I have to run out in a few minutes | 16:35 |
| th1a | gintas: It is great to have you back. | 16:35 |
| gintas | but I'm back, and I'm bad ;) | 16:36 |
| th1a | Actually, a quick introduction to the Infrae team might be a good idea. | 16:37 |
| th1a | I don't recognize everyone. | 16:37 |
| ignas | yeah, who ate these guys ? | 16:37 |
| ignas | s/ate/are | 16:37 |
| faassen | ignas: you know who I am. | 16:37 |
| faassen | gintas: so do you. | 16:37 |
| th1a | Who ate Infrae? | 16:37 |
| faassen | mgedmin: so do you | 16:37 |
| mgedmin | hi, faassen! | 16:37 |
| alga_ | so do I | 16:37 |
| faassen | what's worse, I can identify *you* guys in person. | 16:37 |
| thisfred | Aliens ate my Infrae | 16:37 |
| faassen | alga_: right! | 16:37 |
| ignas | thisfred, say hello to vidas :) | 16:38 |
| kitblake | All your base.... | 16:38 |
| th1a | I can see I'm going to need to use more classroom management skills at these meetings now. | 16:38 |
| vidasp | :O | 16:38 |
| vidasp | hey | 16:38 |
| thisfred | ok, seriously: I'm Eric Casteleijn, I work at Infrae as a developer, and am interested in education from previous work experience | 16:38 |
| th1a | That's what happens when erchache sets the tone. | 16:39 |
| j-w | I'm Jan-Wijbrand - j-w for short - and I'm a developer with a focus on end-user experience and UI | 16:39 |
| alga_ | j-w is actually pronounce yeh-weh, not jay-dub | 16:39 |
| j-w | right! :-) | 16:40 |
| faassen | I'm Martijn Faassen and I've been doing zope stuff for a while. | 16:40 |
| kitblake | I'm Kit Blake, together with Martijn Faassen a founder of Infrae. I focus on thr front end of the company. | 16:40 |
| thisfred | well, what *you* call the front end ;) | 16:40 |
| th1a | Front end of the company or the software? | 16:40 |
| ignas | I am Ignas Mikalajūnas - and I'm a developer without a focus | 16:40 |
| kitblake | I focus on the front end of software too | 16:40 |
| mgedmin | I am Marius Gedminas - I've been working on the Python version of SchoolTool from the very beginning, so you can ask me questions | 16:41 |
| * mgedmin wants to add one item to the agenda: 16:30 UTC meeting time conflicts with his teaching duties this semester | 16:41 | |
| th1a | I'm Tom Hoffman, former English teacher, crappy Python hacker & now SchoolTool project manager. | 16:42 |
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| th1a | mgedmin: OK. What do you suggest? | 16:42 |
| srichter | hi, I am Stephan and everyone knows me. Yipee! :-) | 16:42 |
| mgedmin | alga chickened out ;) | 16:42 |
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| vidasp | I am Vidas Pažusis - developer + physics | 16:42 |
| faassen | th1a: I got a reasonably good score on that online English language test that these POV guys whizzed too. | 16:42 |
| th1a | I wouldn't complain about later. | 16:43 |
| faassen | vidasp: I don't think I've met you yet, right? | 16:43 |
| mgedmin | th1a, I have lectures from 14:00 to 18:00 UTC | 16:43 |
| vidasp | faassen: you are right | 16:43 |
| th1a | mgedmin: I gues that means earlier then. | 16:43 |
| th1a | Or another day? | 16:43 |
| mgedmin | either would be fine | 16:43 |
| mgedmin | perhaps it is time to upgrade calendar.pov.lt | 16:43 |
| erchache | well...sorry | 16:44 |
| mgedmin | to a version of SchoolBell that supports timezones | 16:44 |
| alga | I'm Albertas Agejevas, and I've been working with SchoolTool from the very beginning with Marius and SteveA | 16:44 |
| * th1a has been getting dangerously nocturnal. | 16:44 | |
| mgedmin | so that I could input all my lectures | 16:44 |
| mgedmin | th1a, either earlier or another day (e.g Tuesday) would be fine | 16:44 |
| mgedmin | I have more lectures on Wednesdays and Fridays | 16:44 |
| erchache | I'm Alejandro Sánchez, im working like system administrator on University of Seville, and i have benn working with SchoolTool since last summer | 16:45 |
| th1a | How much earlier would it need to be? | 16:45 |
| kitblake | is later a problem? | 16:45 |
| srichter | since my schedule is flexible now, I don't care about a time anymore | 16:45 |
| th1a | Is after 1800 too late in Lithuania? | 16:45 |
| erchache | i on defcom 5 now :-P | 16:45 |
| erchache | here is 15:45 | 16:46 |
| kitblake | maybe much much earlier would catch th1a in his nocturnal hours | 16:46 |
| erchache | on Spain | 16:46 |
| alga | I have lectures on Mondays 18:00-20:00 EET | 16:46 |
| alga | or 16:00-18:00 UTC | 16:46 |
| th1a | So if it was earlier on Monday it would have to be 1300? | 16:47 |
| mgedmin | if the meeting happened 14:30-15:30 EET (12:30-13:30 UTC), then I could make it to the Uni at 16:00 EET (14:00 UTC) | 16:47 |
| th1a | 1230 = 7:30 | 16:47 |
| * thisfred wonders if this is a good time to bring up daylight saving | 16:47 | |
| faassen | and lunchtime. | 16:47 |
| th1a | OK, how's Tuesday look? | 16:47 |
| mgedmin | yeah, lunchtime for me too | 16:48 |
| mgedmin | I'm +1 for Tuesday | 16:48 |
| alga | thisfred: wait for a month or so ;-) | 16:48 |
| erchache | a month for next release? | 16:48 |
| th1a | Tuesday 1430? | 16:48 |
| th1a | Any complaints about that? | 16:48 |
| alga | works for me | 16:49 |
| mgedmin | that's an idea for a time-based release schedules: "we release whenever the DST bit flips" | 16:49 |
| th1a | erchache: We're getting to it. | 16:49 |
| kitblake | tuesday at 14:30 EET is ok | 16:49 |
| srichter | th1a: are you sure you can make a meeting at 8:30? | 16:49 |
| j-w | kitblake: EET? | 16:49 |
| srichter | oh ok, tz conversion problem | 16:49 |
| th1a | What time is it now? | 16:49 |
| kitblake | 13:30 CET | 16:49 |
| mgedmin | I assumed 14:30 UTC (16:30 EET) | 16:49 |
| th1a | I mean 1430 UTC. | 16:49 |
| mgedmin | +1 | 16:49 |
| kitblake | oh | 16:49 |
| thisfred | lol | 16:50 |
| srichter | ok, so same time on Tuesday!!!! | 16:50 |
| thisfred | +1 ;) | 16:50 |
| th1a | Precisely. | 16:50 |
| mgedmin | everyone seems happy with that | 16:50 |
| ignas | +1 /me was not going to attend System engineering anyway ;) | 16:50 |
| th1a | OK. I'll send out an email. | 16:50 |
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| thisfred | thats 3x +1, so 1730? | 16:51 |
| mgedmin | does this mean we will have a meeting tomorrow? ;-) | 16:51 |
| th1a | mgedmin: I'll let you off the hook. | 16:51 |
| th1a | Main item of business: | 16:51 |
| th1a | releases for Dapper. | 16:52 |
| th1a | They'd like to have these by the 23rd. | 16:52 |
| th1a | I guess jinty (our faithful Debian release manager) isn't here. | 16:52 |
| th1a | Zope 3.2 is supposed to be in Dapper. | 16:52 |
| mgedmin | yep, zope3 version 3.2.0-1 is in dapper | 16:53 |
| tiredbones | th1a, is Dapper the code name for the next release of ubuntu/ | 16:53 |
| * mgedmin wonders how much disk space would a dapper chroot take | 16:53 | |
| mgedmin | tiredbones, yes | 16:53 |
| thisfred | yup | 16:53 |
| th1a | At this point, I'm not planning to try to create releases from the trunk. | 16:53 |
| * mgedmin thinks that is a good idea | 16:54 | |
| th1a | We just need to update our stable branches. | 16:54 |
| th1a | jinty, iirc, thought they didn't work with Zope 3.2, but all tests passed for me. | 16:54 |
| th1a | Except for one typo in a Zope 3 error message, I think. | 16:55 |
| th1a | It might be good if someone ofther than me tried this. | 16:55 |
| srichter | th1a: I am with you on that; we are not ready to support the current trunk | 16:55 |
| th1a | srichter: Has the distinction between the release branches and the trunk come up with Infrae? | 16:56 |
| erchache | in this case a update no? | 16:56 |
| faassen | th1a: no, I don't think so. | 16:56 |
| erchache | Can i use a easy way to convert a trunk into a upgradable stable version? | 16:56 |
| faassen | th1a: I was going to ask questions about which version of schooltool uses which version of z3. | 16:56 |
| srichter | th1a: no we have not been in technical details yet | 16:57 |
| faassen | th1a: but didn't get around to it yet. | 16:57 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:57 |
| mgedmin | erchache, no | 16:57 |
| erchache | uhmm... | 16:57 |
| th1a | One thing is, SchoolTool has to have a very annual release cycle, around the school year. | 16:57 |
| th1a | So for this school year, we put out SchoolTool Calendar, which just does calendaring. | 16:58 |
| erchache | ok | 16:58 |
| erchache | step by step | 16:58 |
| th1a | And we also released SchoolBell, which is just calendaring for small orgs in general (none of the school specific stuff). | 16:58 |
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| ignas | erchache, no you can't go back, sorry, unless you are willing to write some/a lot of python code | 16:59 |
| erchache | hehehehe | 16:59 |
| th1a | The goal of SchoolBell in general was to get a few more random contributors to the project, but it hasn't paid off yet except in bug reports. | 16:59 |
| tiredbones | th1a, would it not be better to not be in sink with the school year. This would give time before the school year begins. | 16:59 |
| erchache | put on my long time To-Do list | 16:59 |
| tiredbones | to iron out problems. | 17:00 |
| th1a | tiredbones: Well, we need to be in sync with the school year, but our next release will need to be much further ahead of the school year. | 17:00 |
| th1a | We need to have a beta in April. | 17:00 |
| th1a | Release at the end of June. | 17:00 |
| erchache | i need to work more on web translation to publish into spanish linux forum schooltool work | 17:00 |
| erchache | and perhaps get more potentials programmers and resources for project | 17:01 |
| th1a | So... after SchoolTool Calendar came out, srichter did a big reorganization of the tree. | 17:01 |
| th1a | Which made it much more like the Zope 3 tree. | 17:01 |
| th1a | And there's a lot of new functionality since then. | 17:02 |
| srichter | yep | 17:02 |
| srichter | and the code base shrank a good bit :-) | 17:02 |
| th1a | We backported all the calendaring related bugfixes up to a couple of months ago, when we did our last bugfix release. | 17:02 |
| th1a | But iirc, now we'll have to decide which fixes since then ought to be backported. | 17:03 |
| srichter | I guess not too much bug fixing has been done since then | 17:03 |
| th1a | There is one big bug that has been driving erchache (even more) crazy. | 17:04 |
| th1a | It is fixed in the trunk. | 17:04 |
| erchache | yepa....recursive events | 17:04 |
| erchache | with this schoolbell has 100% operativity | 17:04 |
| th1a | erchache: That's an exaggeration. | 17:04 |
| erchache | jejejejeje | 17:04 |
| erchache | typical spanish....sorry :-$ | 17:04 |
| erchache | but....this issue is a "big" bug for me | 17:05 |
| th1a | We are all a bit frustrated by the fact that there are lots of calendaring fixes that we'd like to be doing, but we also have to get this new functionality done. | 17:05 |
| erchache | because we planned timetables with 6 month before | 17:05 |
| erchache | th1a: i know i know....dont worry about time.... | 17:06 |
| th1a | It was important to have this project actually release something after several years. | 17:06 |
| th1a | Anyhow... enough back story. | 17:06 |
| th1a | So... one specific question is whether it will be possible for anyone at POV to give us some time between now and the 23rd. If not, I understand. I lost track of the Ubuntu release cycle, so we're a bit off balance here. | 17:08 |
| mgedmin | I think this won't be a problem | 17:09 |
| th1a | Beyond that, it seems like the main thing to be done is to go back through the checkins and decide which ones to backport? | 17:09 |
| * mgedmin defers to Aiste on scheduling questions | 17:10 | |
| mgedmin | hm... there were *many* checkins | 17:10 |
| th1a | I know :-( | 17:10 |
| Aiste | th1a: yes, we can give you some time | 17:10 |
| th1a | Aiste: Thanks. That helps. | 17:11 |
| Aiste | having in mind, that we have a looong weekend starting 16th of Feb | 17:11 |
| alga | feb 16 is the independence day here | 17:12 |
| th1a | I suppose http://issues.schooltool.org should refer to at least some specific changesets | 17:12 |
| mgedmin | (and vice versa) | 17:13 |
| th1a | Any other thoughts about how to approach this? | 17:13 |
| mgedmin | identify issues that plague the last released version | 17:14 |
| th1a | I don't actually recall any big calendaring bugs that we fixed lately except for erchaches, but there are lots of little timezone fixes, aren't there? | 17:14 |
| mgedmin | then look for checkins to backport | 17:14 |
| * mgedmin prods ignas, the famous timezone bug fixer | 17:14 | |
| * th1a was thinking this sounded like a job for ignas. | 17:15 | |
| ignas | mgedmin, err, got a fix, got stuck on a test, has not commited yet ... | 17:15 |
| mgedmin | but you have committed a bunch of other fixes, right? | 17:15 |
| mgedmin | so you ought to be able to find them | 17:15 |
| ignas | mgedmin, some, yes | 17:15 |
| mgedmin | for backporting | 17:15 |
| ignas | mgedmin, was a long time ago, but yes i can | 17:16 |
| th1a | Timeline: I assume jinty will want to put out a release candidate a week ahead, which would mean we'd want something before Independence Day. | 17:17 |
| ignas | th1a, Independence of which country ? | 17:18 |
| th1a | Yours. | 17:18 |
| ignas | oh ;) | 17:18 |
| th1a | Maybe I'll finally make some Zeppelins. | 17:18 |
| th1a | Anyhow, priorities: | 17:19 |
| th1a | 1) Make sure the packages work with Zope 3.2. | 17:19 |
| th1a | 2) Make sure erchache's recurrent event bug (which causes events to appear before they occur) is properly backported. | 17:20 |
| th1a | 3) Other calendaring & timezone bugfixes. | 17:20 |
| mgedmin | sounds good | 17:20 |
| ignas | i guess i can tackle 1,3 and 2 ... | 17:21 |
| th1a | I'll make sure jinty knows what's going on. | 17:21 |
| th1a | We'll add this to the next contract. | 17:21 |
| ignas | th1a, how's the attendance ? are you happy with it ? | 17:21 |
| th1a | I am happy with the attendance. | 17:22 |
| th1a | My only concern is the speed of the sparklines. | 17:22 |
| th1a | But that's a frill. | 17:22 |
| th1a | Chrome. | 17:22 |
| mgedmin | speaking about rendering speed | 17:23 |
| mgedmin | sometimes I wish zope 3 had something like zope 2's CallProfiler | 17:23 |
| ignas | if my brains will become operational i'll optimize them a bit more and maybe even document the process (my brains can't promise anything at the moment though :/) | 17:23 |
| srichter | mgedmin: theere is a runurl script that provides profiler stats | 17:24 |
| srichter | (I don't know about CallProfiler, so I cannot say more) | 17:24 |
| mgedmin | srichter, would it be possible to hook something like that up to the devmode menu? | 17:24 |
| ignas | srichter, is there a way to make something like a ++profile++ namsepace ? | 17:24 |
| mgedmin | anyway, back to sparklines: | 17:24 |
| mgedmin | I suspect that if we extracted all the sparkline data | 17:25 |
| * th1a predicts that within two years a third party will have written an attendance implementation for SchoolTool that uses a RDBMS. | 17:25 | |
| mgedmin | directly in the attendance form | 17:25 |
| mgedmin | and passed it pre-processed to a generic sparkline generator | 17:25 |
| srichter | mgedmin: that could be investigated | 17:25 |
| mgedmin | /sparkline.png?data=1124452521352353247236431461364etc | 17:25 |
| mgedmin | then it might be faster | 17:25 |
| srichter | should be doable | 17:25 |
| mgedmin | and the sparkline images can be safely cached | 17:25 |
| mgedmin | browser-side | 17:25 |
| mgedmin | so if several students have similar attendance stats (e.g. they never miss lessons) | 17:26 |
| mgedmin | the same image can be used by the browser | 17:26 |
| th1a | mgedmin: Interesting. | 17:26 |
| mgedmin | reducing round-trips considerably | 17:26 |
| srichter | yep | 17:26 |
| srichter | I think this is the right sort of strategy | 17:26 |
| th1a | I imagine you've seen this: http://bitworking.org/projects/sparklines/ | 17:28 |
| vidasp | z | 17:28 |
| mgedmin | wake up, vidasp! | 17:28 |
| srichter | th1a: ahh, no, I had not seen that | 17:28 |
| th1a | It is a kind of odd approach. | 17:29 |
| mgedmin | I haven't seen this one, but I've seen other sparkline generators like this | 17:29 |
| mgedmin | hmm, MIT-licenced Python code | 17:29 |
| thisfred | it is python | 17:29 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:29 |
| th1a | http://bitworking.org/news/Sparklines_in_data_URIs_in_Python | 17:29 |
| vidasp | it's almost identical to our sparkline generator | 17:30 |
| vidasp | data uri don't work in ie | 17:30 |
| th1a | Hm... I hadn't specifically mentioned it because I'd assumed you'd Google "python sparkline." | 17:30 |
| th1a | OK. Regardless, we've covered our main work item for this meeting, so I should let POV go. | 17:31 |
| mgedmin | thanks ;) | 17:32 |
| th1a | Nice having a big group today. | 17:32 |
| ignas | bye | 17:32 |
| * th1a strikes the virtual gavel. | 17:32 | |
| alga | weekly ST developers conference :-) | 17:32 |
| srichter | bye | 17:32 |
| kitblake | bye all | 17:32 |
| ignas | we'll really have to formalize our meatings to make the information exchange more efficient | 17:32 |
| th1a | Especially with more people. | 17:32 |
| alga | we'll really have to formalize our meatings to make them more nutritious | 17:33 |
| tiredbones | th1a, your classroom management are very good. | 17:33 |
| faassen | some of this was beyond us. | 17:33 |
| j-w | yes | 17:33 |
| faassen | like, we have no clue where sparklines are used. | 17:33 |
| kitblake | th1a, would sending out an agenda in advance be too formal? | 17:33 |
| tiredbones | th1a, your classroom management skills are very good. | 17:33 |
| th1a | I send out agendas beforehand. | 17:34 |
| kitblake | ah | 17:34 |
| th1a | Although I've migrated to just trying to get updates and cover one major issue in the meeting. | 17:34 |
| srichter | I could not show you sparklines, because the attendance was broken :-) | 17:34 |
| th1a | The attendance was broken? | 17:34 |
| srichter | well, it was because I just kept updating the trunk | 17:35 |
| srichter | if I delete the Data.fs it will work | 17:35 |
| th1a | The thing that puzzles me about managing IRC meetings is that it seems like the way to make them more efficient is to cover more things via email. But if you want to cover things via email, why do you need an IRC chat? | 17:36 |
| th1a | So I like the IRC time to still be a bit chatty, as long as the group is still fairly small. | 17:37 |
| th1a | But I'd say we're at the edge of small now. | 17:37 |
| srichter | th1a: I don't think that all Infrae guys are going to show up for all meetings | 17:37 |
| th1a | If not slightly over it. | 17:37 |
| th1a | srichter: I wouldn't expect so either. | 17:37 |
| srichter | so it might be ok next week | 17:38 |
| th1a | faassen: So srichter will show you the sparklines, hopefully. | 17:38 |
| th1a | Some sparklines would be nice chrome for the gradebook, too, although I doubt we'll get to it. | 17:39 |
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| th1a | Any other questions or comments from Rotterdam? | 17:39 |
| srichter | th1a: what is the priority list for infrae? | 17:40 |
| j-w | not from me for this moment | 17:40 |
| srichter | th1a: I said: gradebook, demographic info, UI? | 17:41 |
| j-w | nice to see all the names attached! | 17:41 |
| th1a | srichter: Yes. | 17:41 |
| srichter | ok | 17:41 |
| srichter | th1a: any word about CSV import/export | 17:41 |
| th1a | Just make sure you talk to them about weighting and other arcane gradebook stuff they'll be dealing with. | 17:41 |
| srichter | yep, I will do the technical stuff now and tomorrow | 17:42 |
| th1a | It is probable. | 17:42 |
| srichter | ok, so you have not heard from everyone yet? | 17:42 |
| th1a | That's the stuff that you can help them more than I can. | 17:42 |
| th1a | I've heard from people, I guess I haven't made a final decision. | 17:42 |
| th1a | The response is a bit mixed. | 17:43 |
| srichter | oki doki | 17:43 |
| th1a | It is really a time issue. | 17:43 |
| th1a | But it is probable. | 17:43 |
| srichter | yep | 17:43 |
| th1a | It may end up happening a bit late. | 17:44 |
| th1a | We'll see. | 17:44 |
| srichter | the guys here identified a lot of UI issues so we should definitely allow time for that | 17:44 |
| th1a | Definitely explain the idea to Infrae. | 17:44 |
| srichter | I am also going to show them blackboard a bit for the gradebook | 17:44 |
| th1a | (of the spreadsheet import/export). | 17:44 |
| srichter | yep | 17:44 |
| th1a | srichter: Good. | 17:44 |
| th1a | OK. I think we're on the same page. | 17:45 |
| srichter | yep | 17:45 |
| srichter | :-) | 17:45 |
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| mhz | th1a: hi there | 22:37 |
| mhz | th1a: i know there's need for volunteers to translate both web pages and schooltool | 22:38 |
| mhz | th1a: what is priority #1? | 22:38 |
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