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| povbot | /svn/commits: Fixed a typo in our code, but had to change the test to reflect the typo in Zope 3.2. | 00:45 |
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| carljm | hey all - just downloaded SchoolBell, and it's great!! thanks! one question - is there any way to replace the SchoolBell logo in the upper left? seems simple, but I can't find a way. | 05:14 |
| th1a | Yes... | 05:14 |
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| th1a | Although I can't remember exactly how off the top of my head... | 05:15 |
| th1a | It looks like the image is called logo.png, | 05:15 |
| th1a | so you should be able to search for that in the source tree. | 05:16 |
| th1a | And replace it. | 05:16 |
| pcardune | are you guys going to put the logos you found? (in an excited voice) | 05:16 |
| th1a | Yes, eventually. | 05:16 |
| th1a | I want to integrate them more into the flow of the UI, so if you have any ideas. | 05:17 |
| pcardune | sounds good to me! | 05:17 |
| carljm | th1a: thanks... except I have the Debian package, so no source tree - I looked for logo.png in the filesystem, but thought it's probably buried in Data.fs - am I wrong? | 05:18 |
| th1a | carljm Oh... I don't think so. | 05:18 |
| th1a | I'll poke around a bit. | 05:19 |
| th1a | Try /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/schoolbell/app/browser/resources/icon.png | 05:23 |
| carljm | yeah, just found that myself | 05:24 |
| carljm | but I replaced it, restarted schoolbell, hard-reloaded the page, no difference. | 05:24 |
| th1a | Huh. | 05:25 |
| th1a | Ah. Is it schoolbell.png? | 05:27 |
| carljm | i'll try that | 05:30 |
| carljm | definitely logo.png in the HTML source, but... | 05:30 |
| th1a | There might be some misdirection going on. | 05:31 |
| th1a | Tends to happen when you're trying to make two apps out of one source tree. | 05:31 |
| carljm | aha. misdirection carries the day | 05:31 |
| carljm | thanks! | 05:31 |
| th1a | No problem. | 05:32 |
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| carljm | schoolbell question - anyone ever have a disappearing event? | 06:45 |
| carljm | it shows up on week and month views, but disappears on the day view | 06:45 |
| carljm | should be right smack in the middle of the day, but it's not there ? | 06:46 |
| carljm | it seems to have something to do with the timezone setting - I create an event at 1pm (with a Mountain time user) - and it can't be found on the day view. Switch that user to UTC, and it shows up at 8pm | 06:49 |
| th1a | carljm: Which version are you running? | 06:49 |
| th1a | I guess you're probably using what's in Breezy? | 06:50 |
| carljm | 1.2.3 | 06:50 |
| carljm | or so it says in the footer | 06:50 |
| carljm | this problem didn't show up when my users were all set to UTC | 06:50 |
| th1a | Right... | 06:51 |
| carljm | but I switched them all to Mountain, and now wierdness | 06:51 |
| carljm | and it's not with events previously created, it's with new ones | 06:51 |
| th1a | Hm... | 06:52 |
| th1a | That's the latest release, but we'll be making another bugfix release soon. | 06:52 |
| th1a | Although that sounds like something I thought we'd fixed. | 06:53 |
| carljm | i can give you access if you want to look at it yourself | 06:53 |
| carljm | just a testing setup right now | 06:53 |
| th1a | Sure, why not. | 06:53 |
| carljm | th1a: you get the login info? | 06:58 |
| th1a | Oh, yes. | 06:58 |
| th1a | I'm actually looking at our bug tracker to see if this was supposed to be fixed. | 06:58 |
| carljm | oh, another fun one: AssertionError: not enough days, trying to see the yearly calendar | 07:00 |
| th1a | I should, by the way, point out that I'm not actually one of the developers. I manage the SchoolTool project. But if I seem clueless, that's why. | 07:01 |
| carljm | no problem - I appreciate the help | 07:02 |
| th1a | Well, I found something in the bug tracker about that one. | 07:04 |
| th1a | The good news is, there is a workaround, the bad news is that you have to set Monday to be the first day of the week (European-style). | 07:04 |
| th1a | That's what happens when you use European developers. | 07:04 |
| carljm | ok - that fixes the "not enough days" error? | 07:05 |
| th1a | I'm not sure I'd call it a fix ;-) | 07:05 |
| carljm | well, it does work around it, anyway | 07:05 |
| carljm | good enough, i just have to demo this at 8am tomorrow :-) | 07:06 |
| carljm | and apparently the workaround for the other is to leave everyone at UTC for the moment | 07:07 |
| carljm | good enough for now - any ETA on the bugfix release? | 07:07 |
| th1a | The release will be soon, because we need to have a new package for the Ubuntu Dapper Drake release. | 07:09 |
| th1a | The question is what bugs will be fixed. I'm not entirely sure. | 07:09 |
| th1a | I'd agree that leaving everyone at UTC is the way to go. And deciding whether or not you'd rather have the yearly view or American-style weeks. | 07:11 |
| carljm | Ok. Thanks for the help. | 07:11 |
| th1a | Just for context, this is part of a larger project to write school administration software, and we've got to focus our energy on writing things like attendance and gradebook tracking now. | 07:12 |
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| th1a | That's why we can'f focus as much attention as we'd like on cleaning up these calendaring bugs. | 07:12 |
| th1a | If you're a Python programmer, we'll happily accept patches ;-) | 07:13 |
| carljm | I am a Python programmer, though I don't know the whole Zope framework much at all. | 07:15 |
| carljm | I'll poke around if I have some free time, and if I can figure out what's going on I'll submit something. | 07:15 |
| th1a | Yes, and the timezone stuff is just flat hard. | 07:15 |
| th1a | But fun and challenging! | 07:16 |
| th1a | Mmm..... timezones :-D | 07:16 |
| carljm | Yeah, never had to work with timezones before. Doesn't seem that complicated - famous last words | 07:16 |
| th1a | Yes, if I could do it over again, we would have skipped it entirely. | 07:17 |
| th1a | It is pretty much a choice between constant complaints about a lack of timezone support or complaints about timezone bugs. | 07:17 |
| th1a | I think we'll be able to straighten it all out when we get some time. | 07:17 |
| th1a | I'm perhaps not being a good salesman here. | 07:18 |
| carljm | Well, for a straight shared calendar, the product is overall heads and shoulders above the other open source options I looked at | 07:19 |
| th1a | I do think we've got some real strengths. | 07:19 |
| carljm | Primarily in terms of usability. I looked at stuff like phpGroupWare, PHProjekt, etc. - plenty of features, but there's no way my users will make it through those three-page labyrinth forms. | 07:19 |
| th1a | Yes, groupware usually tries to do too much. | 07:20 |
| carljm | Might be some other options I missed, but I really like SchoolBells, so I'll deal with a few bugs. | 07:20 |
| carljm | You don't have any clues for me about how I could get rid of that Yearly link, temporarily? | 07:21 |
| carljm | There doesn't happen to be a handy HTML template sitting around somewhere, does there? It isn't in the same dir as the images and CSS, so maybe there isn't. | 07:21 |
| th1a | Those are in the resources directory. | 07:22 |
| th1a | You want a template, which is probably just a level higher... in /browser | 07:22 |
| th1a | Extension .pt | 07:22 |
| carljm | aha | 07:22 |
| th1a | Welcome to Zope Page Templates. | 07:23 |
| th1a | A bit daunting, but pure XHTML templates. | 07:23 |
| carljm | Simple enough. | 07:25 |
| th1a | Excellent. | 07:26 |
| th1a | I'm going to take a bath. | 07:26 |
| th1a | Good talking to you carljm | 07:26 |
| th1a | Good luck. | 07:26 |
| carljm | yep, thanks for all the help | 07:27 |
| carljm | good night | 07:27 |
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| erchache | hi | 16:14 |
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| th1a | erchache: We'll be shooting for the bugfix release in the next couple weeks, because we'll need to have it ready for Dapper. | 19:22 |
| erchache | th1a: cool :-D | 19:43 |
| th1a | We just have to figure out who is going to do the back-porting. | 19:43 |
| erchache | backporting? | 19:44 |
| erchache | what do you say about backporting? :-S | 19:44 |
| th1a | Taking the fixes in the trunk and putting them in the release branches. | 19:45 |
| erchache | ok ok....sounds very very good :-D | 19:49 |
| erchache | other question: how i can setup site to show all calendars of manager for non-register users at first page? | 19:52 |
| erchache | th1a | 19:52 |
| erchache | i set view perm on set up access...but when enter without logging on site...doesnt show any event....why? | 19:53 |
| th1a | You see the calendar but no event when you aren't logged in? But the event is there if you're logged in? | 19:54 |
| erchache | no no...i cant see nothing | 19:54 |
| erchache | i want unlogged users can view all calendars | 19:54 |
| erchache | th1a | 19:55 |
| th1a | The calendar on the front page will only show events that are added to it directly. | 19:55 |
| erchache | why? | 19:57 |
| erchache | cant be hacked to show information which i want? | 19:57 |
| th1a | Because that's what it is designed to do. | 19:57 |
| th1a | I you write some code, it'll do whatever you want. | 19:58 |
| erchache | uhmm....must be a future feature... | 19:58 |
| erchache | because this design must need without excuse to log on system to show information | 19:58 |
| erchache | all deny system no? | 19:58 |
| th1a | Right now, the system is designed around the needs of registered users, not really anonymous ones. | 19:59 |
| erchache | uhmm......perhaps creating a anonymous users that log automatically? | 20:00 |
| erchache | if dont log? | 20:01 |
| th1a | You can set the permissions to make all calendars visible to anonymous users. | 20:01 |
| erchache | i do that... | 20:02 |
| erchache | but anonymous user must to find information | 20:02 |
| erchache | like a pull system | 20:02 |
| erchache | i want a push system | 20:02 |
| erchache | information goes to user....not viceversa...than user goes to information | 20:03 |
| th1a | Yes. We don't do that. | 20:04 |
| erchache | i understand....system are created for personal management system....not like a portal...no? | 20:08 |
| erchache | a cms....need to log on system | 20:09 |
| erchache | this is ok for schooltool.....but for schoolbell not | 20:09 |
| erchache | schoolbell must get more features in this way | 20:09 |
| erchache | i know i know DO IT YOURSELF! ;-) | 20:09 |
| erchache | fuck....i need some payed student to do that :-S | 20:10 |
| th1a | Exactly. | 20:10 |
| erchache | well i left....bye :-D | 20:30 |
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