IRC log of #schooltool for Thursday, 2006-01-26

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jintyth1a: around?02:35
th1ajinty:  Yep.02:40
jintyah, was just writing you a mail.02:41 seems to be running, but I cannot figure out how02:41
jintyis it manually started?02:41 was running, too, until I killed it.02:42
th1aI don't know.02:42
th1aI think it might have been.02:42
jintygrep on /etc turns up nothing for either st-demo or fhs, so I have to presume that.02:43
jintywhat is the difference between fhs and demo?02:43
th1aWell, I'm going to be using fhs at a local school.02:43
th1aAnd demo is meant to be a demo ;-)02:44
jintyare the /etc files stored in any kind of version control system with a log?02:44
th1aI doubt it.02:44
th1aI want both of these running svn versions.02:44
th1aWhich is a good reason to keep them chrooted.02:46
* jinty tries to think of the best way to organise the unix users/groups02:46
jintyyep, chroots are good way to go02:47
th1aThis was a bad scenario for my first experience with chrooted servers.02:48
th1aMuch gnashing of teeth and rending of garments.02:48
jintyYeah, there is a reason why they invented packaging systems;)02:49
jintyyou are obviously going to need some top level scripts to be able to start/stop them nicely02:50
jintydo you care about the data.fs in either of these?02:51
th1aYes.  I kept trying to figure out if there was some kind of magic going on.02:51
th1aNo, you can nuke them both.02:51
jintyOk, probably I will try to install new tarballs in the same chroots and get them set up, otherwise I dont think I have nay more questions for now02:53
jintyI can probably try on friday/saturday.02:54
th1ajinty:  Thanks a lot.  This is a big help.02:55
jintyI guess it'll take me around 4 hours (conservatively)02:55
jintyYeah, and root access...02:56
th1ajinty:  OK, I'll set up root access for you.03:05
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erchacheth1a: are you here?16:31
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erchachetom....are you here?17:49
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povbot/svn/commits: * mg committed revision 5691:20:41
povbot/svn/commits: Attendance summary per term in the student's attendance view.20:41
povbot/svn/commits: Potentially interesting details:20:41
povbot/svn/commits: * I added a generic CSS class for table cells that contain numbers20:41
povbot/svn/commits: (td.number).  These are right-aligned.20:41
povbot/svn/commits: * I replaced template="..." in ZCML to __call__ = ViewPageTemplateFile("...")20:41
povbot/svn/commits: in Python source file.  It seems that Zope 3 is moving away from ZCML magic to declaring things in Python and just registering them in ZCML.20:41
povbot/svn/commits: * I added an XXX comment in a functional test that depends on the current date20:41
povbot/svn/commits: and will start failing in the future.20:42
povbot/svn/commits: * mg committed revision 5692:20:55
povbot/svn/commits: Functional test for the student's attendance view.20:55
th1ajinty:  Yes?21:09
jintyi got up21:09
th1aI see.21:09
th1aHow do I control it?21:10
jintythere is an init.d script in the chroot21:10
th1aIs that called from outside the chroot, too, on startup?21:10
jintybut I am going to write one for the top level soon,21:11
jintyalso rotating the logs;)21:11
jintyI'll make another installation in the same directory for the demo21:11
th1aAh.  Run them both from the same chroot?21:12
th1aThat seems reasonable.21:12
jintyyeah, each chroot is a maintainence overhead21:12
th1aIf you figure out how to get into one, you can get into the other.21:13
jintyI've minimized this one, but it still needs to be updated by had21:13
jintyI've minimized this one, but it still needs to be updated by hand21:13
jinty(security and such)21:13
th1aSo you can't apt-get update a chroot?21:14
povbot/svn/commits: * mg committed revision 5693:21:15
povbot/svn/commits: Remove time limits from the list of unresolved absences.21:15
jintyyeah, you can;) I meant someone has to actually do it.21:15
* jinty wonders if there is anything else he should do...21:16
* th1a thinks that should do it.21:23
povbot/svn/commits: * mg committed revision 5694:21:54
povbot/svn/commits: Only list *unexcused* absences/tardies in the student's attendance view.21:54
jintyth1a: all done. except the old demo is still running22:20
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