| dwelsh | comps are no good in and of themselves. | 00:00 |
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| hoffman | I'll incorporate some ideas in the next version of the presentation. | 00:00 |
| dwelsh | they have to lead directly to hi-level achievement | 00:00 |
| jelkner | pcardune: do you need anything? | 00:01 |
| dwelsh | I have a couple of great articles to share with you guys on assessment | 00:01 |
| dwelsh | will forward links | 00:01 |
| pcardune | jelkner: not yet | 00:01 |
| jelkner | ffsnoopy says things are going well | 00:01 |
| pcardune | I would agree with that | 00:01 |
| jelkner | great | 00:02 |
| jelkner | dave, we need to get mitchell's paper work into aps too | 00:02 |
| hoffman | Our first attendance screen looks pretty good. | 00:02 |
| dwelsh | Martini is the man | 00:02 |
| jelkner | yup | 00:02 |
| jelkner | i'll take care of that | 00:03 |
| dwelsh | thanks | 00:03 |
| dwelsh | wishing the whole team a great 2006 | 00:03 |
| jelkner | same time next week, then? | 00:03 |
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| dwelsh | I'm already looking forward to this generation of schooltool/cando | 00:03 |
| jelkner | me too! | 00:03 |
| hoffman | Yep. Thanks guys. | 00:03 |
| dwelsh | enjoy the rest of your holiday, pual | 00:04 |
| jelkner | thanks for the presentation, tom! | 00:04 |
| dwelsh | pauyl | 00:04 |
| dwelsh | paul | 00:04 |
| pcardune | bye all | 00:04 |
| jelkner | cya | 00:04 |
| ffsnoopy | later | 00:04 |
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| srichter | alga: Aiste: is Marius gone for the day? | 17:44 |
| alga | no, they're having lunch | 17:56 |
| alga | should be back in an hour or even less | 17:56 |
| srichter | ok, thanks | 17:56 |
| alga | no prob | 17:56 |
| srichter | you have really weird lunch times, I must say :-) | 17:56 |
| hoffman | Where'd they go for lunch? | 17:57 |
| srichter | hoffman: of course to a place where they have lunch specials all day long :-) | 17:57 |
| hoffman | The POV lunches are a bit leisurely. | 17:58 |
| hoffman | But then again, I just got up. | 17:58 |
| srichter | hoffman: are you not getting into trouble not getting up with your wife in the morning? ;-) | 17:58 |
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| hoffman | Well, she tends to go to bed about five hours before me. We've gotten used to it. | 17:59 |
| srichter | I see | 18:00 |
| hoffman | Are biological clocks are so different we've never been in sync. | 18:01 |
| srichter | he he | 18:01 |
| hoffman | It isn't a recent development. | 18:01 |
| srichter | my wife claims she cannot get up, if I am not getting up with her | 18:01 |
| hoffman | Actually, it is one of the nice things about going to Europe for us. | 18:02 |
| srichter | so I am on the line every day, which is not horrible, since I am usually an early riser | 18:02 |
| hoffman | The jetlag gets us both on the same schedule. | 18:02 |
| srichter | you sync for the trip?! | 18:02 |
| srichter | he he | 18:02 |
| srichter | hoffman: back to business, do we have an agenda for the FRiday meeting? also can you send me the address again? | 18:04 |
| hoffman | Smith Leadership Academy | 18:06 |
| hoffman | 23 Leonard Street | 18:06 |
| hoffman | Dorchester, MA 02122 | 18:06 |
| hoffman | The objective is just an introductory meeting. | 18:06 |
| srichter | I read on the Web site that they are not even up and running | 18:07 |
| srichter | that makes them of course an excellent candidate, sicne they have few expectations. I hope :-) | 18:07 |
| hoffman | No... Smith exists. | 18:08 |
| hoffman | The school in Philly the SCIENCE Leadership Academy is just starting. | 18:08 |
| srichter | oh, ok | 18:09 |
| srichter | must have mixed that up :-) | 18:09 |
| hoffman | But I know the guy starting the school in Philly. | 18:09 |
| hoffman | It will actually happen ;-) | 18:09 |
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| srichter | hoffman: when is the meeting? | 18:09 |
| hoffman | 10:30. | 18:10 |
| hoffman | So I don't have to get up at the crack of dawn... | 18:10 |
| hoffman | I probably also forwarded to you some emails with Brent Ellis about the Phoenix Charter Academy, which is just starting in Boston as well. | 18:11 |
| srichter | ok | 18:12 |
| srichter | yep | 18:12 |
| srichter | I saw them | 18:12 |
| srichter | at least soime E-mail | 18:12 |
| hoffman | Brent also does tech consulting at Smith, so it may end up being a twofer. | 18:12 |
| hoffman | Hopefully he'll make the meeting as well. | 18:12 |
| srichter | ok | 18:13 |
| hoffman | He also seems to potentially be able to do some work on SchoolTool himself. | 18:13 |
| srichter | oh, now that's interesting | 18:18 |
| hoffman | He used SchoolTool as an example for a paper on object databases in a class he was taking, or something like that. | 18:19 |
| hoffman | So he's already dug around the code a bit. | 18:19 |
| srichter | nice | 18:20 |
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| mgedmin | srichter, you had a question? | 19:33 |
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| th1a | Oof. Making person/sampledata.py add students to the students group breaks five tests. | 20:40 |
| th1a | However, it seems to work in practice. | 20:41 |
| srichter | mgedmin: yeah, so I created st.core | 20:42 |
| srichter | and now It hink we need some simple rules to distinguish what goes where | 20:43 |
| srichter | for example, it seems obvious that ISchoolToolApplication, SchoolToolApplication and getSchoolToolApplication should go to st.core | 20:43 |
| srichter | on the other hand, I feel that pretty much none of the browser code should go there | 20:44 |
| srichter | another decent discriminator would be to look into other st.* packages and see what they use from the current st.app | 20:44 |
| srichter | btw, this quickly becomes hairy, especially when you think about the browser setup code | 20:45 |
| mgedmin | hmm | 20:45 |
| mgedmin | I suggest small commits | 20:46 |
| srichter | of course | 20:46 |
| srichter | I don't plan to do this right now | 20:46 |
| srichter | but we need some rules, so that we keep the distinctions clear | 20:47 |
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| mgedmin | I'm afraid I do not have those rules now | 20:51 |
| mgedmin | I think st.core may contain browser stuff | 20:52 |
| mgedmin | especially structural stuff | 20:52 |
| mgedmin | e.g. traverser plugin infrastructure | 20:52 |
| mgedmin | definitions of standard viewlet managers | 20:52 |
| srichter | mmh, maybe | 20:53 |
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| spectrum1 | hi, I am trying schooltool and have question: Unauthenticated users cannot see teacher's calendar? (version 0.11.3) | 22:48 |
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| povbot` | /svn/commits: * hoffman committed revision 5561: | 22:52 |
| povbot` | /svn/commits: Add students to the student group when creating sample data, and work around the test breakage this causes.:wq | 22:52 |
| hoffman | Hm... need to get my $EDITOR properly set. | 22:52 |
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