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| alga | th1a, bskahan: we're about to decomission the server schooltool mailing lists sit on | 15:56 |
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| alga | we could move them to our second server | 15:56 |
| alga | alternatively, we could move them to the schooltool servers altogether | 15:56 |
| alga | seems like a high time to do it | 15:57 |
| alga | th1a: have you got access to the schooltool.org DNS? | 16:10 |
| alga | th1a: do you have root on the schooltool server? | 16:11 |
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| th1a | alga: Are you doing this right now? | 17:25 |
| mgedmin | th1a, kinda | 17:28 |
| th1a | Yes I do have root on schooltool.org, and it does have mailman set up. | 17:29 |
| alga | the issue tracker we can get around, but the mailing lists really want to be migrated | 17:30 |
| th1a | A little advance warning would have been helpful here. | 17:31 |
| mgedmin | there's no deadline | 17:32 |
| mgedmin | we just found some free time and could take a look at one of the long-pending tasks we have: upgrade that old redhat server | 17:32 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:33 |
| th1a | The DNS is controlled by someone at the foundation. | 17:33 |
| th1a | So what's the sequence of events here? | 17:35 |
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| mgedmin | there are choices | 17:35 |
| geek_x | hi everybody | 17:36 |
| th1a | We can move the lists to the new server if you want. | 17:36 |
| alga | hi geek_x | 17:36 |
| mgedmin | th1a, one choice is that we give you (or bskahan?) a tarball with everything, you set it up, then we disable mail delivery temporarily, oh, I'm confused already | 17:37 |
| mgedmin | another choice is that you give us root access and we try to set everything up ourselves | 17:37 |
| mgedmin | (documenting everything we do along the way) | 17:37 |
| * mgedmin pauses to think a bit | 17:39 | |
| mgedmin | perhaps this is a reasonable scenario: | 17:39 |
| mgedmin | (1) somebody gets mailman all set up on the new server | 17:39 |
| mgedmin | (2) we move the archives and set up redirection so that foo@schooltool.org is internally forwarded to foo@newserver.schooltool.org or something | 17:40 |
| th1a | bskahan has done (1), iirc. | 17:40 |
| mgedmin | (3) we ask people to switch the DNS | 17:40 |
| alga | don't forget roundup | 17:40 |
| mgedmin | it can be moved separately | 17:42 |
| th1a | OK, so I need to let you guys into the new server. | 17:44 |
| mgedmin | who is going to be the regular sysadmin of the new server? | 17:45 |
| th1a | bskahan has been. | 17:45 |
| th1a | I'm still not sure how much of a hurry you guys are in. | 17:45 |
| th1a | Can you talk to him about this? | 17:46 |
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| th1a | alga: So the ST test suite takes 7723.766 seconds to run 872 tests on Mac OS X. | 17:59 |
| th1a | One factor, I think, is that socket.getfqdn() is slow. | 17:59 |
| th1a | But something new is slowing it down. | 18:00 |
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| alga | th1a: eeek! | 19:16 |
| th1a | Yeah. | 19:17 |
| alga | you might consider getting an x86 based machine to run schooltool | 19:17 |
| th1a | I've got one ;-) | 19:18 |
| th1a | I don't think the processor architecture is the problem, though. | 19:18 |
| alga | yeah, that would seem quite improbable | 19:19 |
| th1a | Whenever I ctrl-c out of it, it seems to be waiting for socket.fqdn() | 19:19 |
| alga | hmm | 19:20 |
| th1a | Which takes a perceptible period of time to run by itself (under a second, usually). | 19:21 |
| alga | I wonder where our tests call getfqdn | 19:24 |
| th1a | Hm... make_msgid? | 19:26 |
| th1a | new_unique_id() | 19:26 |
| th1a | Yeah, it seems to be a Python issue. | 19:32 |
| alga | or Zope 3 | 19:43 |
| th1a | The problem is gethostbyaddr in socket.py | 20:06 |
| th1a | I mean, assuming that the fact that it comes up every time I ctrl-c out of the tests indicates that the tests are always waiting for that to complete. | 20:07 |
| alga | i | 20:16 |
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