IRC log of #schooltool for Monday, 2005-08-15

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povbot/svn/commits: * tvon committed revision 4696:00:03
povbot/svn/commits: partial sample batch implementation and some macro tests.  Now shows 'next 10' or 'previous 10' in links.00:03
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povbot/svn/commits: * tvon committed revision 4697:00:42
povbot/svn/commits: whoops00:42
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srichtertvon: I am in Boston01:27
tvonway to read the logs :)01:28
srichterbskahan: I am surprised they did that; ST is not lobbying enough for its great technologies. I think we really should write a proposal for the inclusion of ST's relationship package, if we get Mark's ok.01:30
tvonah, tufts01:30
bskahansrichter: true, maybe tom can lobby for that while he's in London01:32
tvonIt's been suggested in here a few times01:33
* bskahan nods01:34
bskahanI don't recall the conclusion01:34
bskahaniirc, SteveA suggested it didn't belong in Zope01:34
srichterright, Tom wanted to talk to Mark about it01:34
bskahanbut I could be smoking crack01:34
bskahandinner time01:35
srichterwell, the problem is that we need to lobby much better for ST technologies01:35
bskahansrichter: +101:35
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tvonbskahan: yeah, I think that was it01:35
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povbot/svn/commits: * tvon committed revision 4698:07:16
povbot/svn/commits: don't show the number of items in prev/next if there is no prev/next07:17
povbot/svn/commits: * tvon committed revision 4699:07:38
povbot/svn/commits: Make the numbers in next/previous live.  If there are only 7 items on the last page of a batch, say 'next 7' instead of 'next ${batch size}'07:38
povbot/svn/commits: * tvon committed revision 4700:09:43
povbot/svn/commits: make the current batch more apparent and shrink things down a little bit.09:43
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povbot/svn/commits: * tvon committed revision 4701:13:01
povbot/svn/commits: Keep the batch from wrapping.13:01
povbot/svn/commits: * tvon committed revision 4702:13:03
povbot/svn/commits: removing batch-extra-navigation css (the show more/less/all links)13:03
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povbot/svn/commits: * bskahan committed revision 4703:15:09
povbot/svn/commits: added links to section schedules in the section index.  Relaxed security on ITimetableDict to allow it.15:09
povbot/svn/commits: RFC: is there any reason for ITimetableDicts to [not inherit|inherit] ILocation?15:09
* mgedmin wonders if people know that today is a public holiday in Lithuania15:12
srichterprobably not :-)15:12
bskahanmgedmin: I didn't, happy holiday ;)15:12
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th1abskahan: ayt?15:17
bskahanth1a: hi15:17
th1aDid you do the story about section calendars showing up for students?15:18
bskahanyes, why?15:18
th1aI tried it in the latest rc and it didn't seem to work.15:18
bskahanlet me look15:19
bskahanth1a: give the students view permission on the calendar15:24
th1aThat's not very useful if it doesn't happen automatically.15:25
bskahanth1a: I'll add a schoolbell.viewCalendar permssion to new group members15:27
bskahanor just to members of sections?15:28
th1aThanks.  Flag that for back-porting too please.15:28
bskahan(one happens in schoolbell, the other in schooltool)15:28
th1aHm... So we don't give view calendar to group members by default?15:28
th1aI guess they get it because they're part of the group.15:29
th1aBut a section isn't a group.15:29
th1aAt least on the ACL view.15:29
bskahansorry, trying the grant real quick15:32
bskahanSections implement IGroup15:32
bskahanso for most intents the will show up as a group15:33
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povbot/svn/commits: * srichter committed revision 4704:16:22
povbot/svn/commits: Factored out Group code into a separate package.16:22
bskahanI think it will be a quite meeting16:30
srichterI am here :-)16:30
bskahanquiet even16:30
srichterI am still working on the refactorings. :-) <report done>16:30
bskahanwhat's the timeframe for merging your branch back into trunk?16:34
mgedminI'd like to start merging after the release on Tuesday16:34
* bskahan nods16:36
srichterthe faster the better16:37
srichtermgedmin: I am going to sync schooltool only once for the new locations of person, group and resource in schoolbell16:38
mgedminsrichter, I'm not sure what that means16:39
srichterWell, I am working on Schoolbell only now (on the branch)16:39
srichterwithout updating SchoolTool to the new locations16:39
jelkneris the meeting over?16:48
srichteryeah, I think it never started :-)16:50
bskahanjelkner: the agenda is very flexible today ;)16:50
srichtermgedmin: btw, what is the holiday today?16:50
bskahantom h. is in london and POV is mostly on holiday16:51
ignasit's called "žolinės"16:51
jelknerso it will be same time next monday, yes?16:52
jelkneris schooltool 1.0 still slated for a september release?16:53
bskahanjelkner: schooltool calendar 0.11 is scheduled to release tomorrow16:53
bskahanalong with schoolbell 1.216:53
bskahanthat will be the stable series for the 2005-2006 schoolyear16:53
jelknerso the web site should be updated to reflect that.16:54
* bskahan nods16:54
jelknerbskahan: you're located in baltimore, aren't you?16:56
bskahanjelkner: have you tried out the 0.11 release candidates?16:56
bskahanjelkner: I was until very recently ;)16:56
bskahannow I'm in NY16:56
jelkneroh, any of you still in baltimore?16:56
bskahantvon is in Baltimore16:57
jelkneri haven't tried out the latest release yet16:57
jelkneri figured it would come with breezy, and i'm waiting to try that16:57
jelkneror edubuntu, actually16:58
bskahanthat's actually a good question16:58
bskahanbreezy still has 0.1016:59
jelknerand it is frozen16:59
jelknerdoes that mean 0.10 is all it will have?17:00
bskahanI hope not,17:00
jelknerme too17:00
jelknerin terms of promoting schooltool, i was counting on edubuntu as the delivery vehicle17:01
jelkner"here, take this cd and try it out..."17:01
jelknerwell, if the meeting is over, i'm heading back to bed...17:03
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srichterwow, the resource's browser views are almost not unit tested at all17:06
* ignas needs a network card an a book "setting up a nat for zombies and ghouls"17:09
mgedminlessons learned: if you have a trivial subclass that just overrides a string attribute, white a unit test nevertheless -- otherwise other people will add methods in that class and will NOT write unit tests for them17:11
srichterthat is true though, I have observed myself doign that too17:12
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povbot/svn/commits: * srichter committed revision 4705:17:49
povbot/svn/commits: Refactored resource code into a separate package.17:49
bskahanif I extract a method do I need to isolate the doctests as well?17:50
bskahanignas: thanks17:52
povbot/svn/commits: * bskahan committed revision 4706:18:15
povbot/svn/commits: modified the section membership subscriber to grant/unset permissions on 'view' and 'viewCalendar'.18:15
povbot/svn/commits: This should be backported to the 0.11 branch.18:15
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pcarduneeldafar: ayt?19:35
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srichtermgedmin: yipee, I got the pluggable traverser working21:19
mgedminhow does it work?21:21
srichterusing subscribers21:21
srichteryou basically register a pluggable traverser for the object of interest21:21
srichterthen you register traverser plugins (subscribers)21:22
srichterthe nice thing is you simply register a plugin for the ICalendarOwner21:22
srichterand every object implementing ICalendarOwner and using the pluggable traverser then has this plugin automatically21:26
srichterI think it is definitely the best approach to any software that is designed as a development platform21:26
srichterbtw, I have not written directives yet; ST seems hesitant to develop their own directives21:27
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bskahanhey jinty21:31
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jintyhoi bskahan21:49
* jinty was just downloading the ridiculous amount of e-mail he got over the weekend21:50
bskahanjinty: Hey Brian21:55
bskahanI'm swimming in old email at this point21:55
bskahando you know what we need to do to get our version bumped in Breezy?21:56
jintyI saw the mail, but we havn't got a 0.11 yet...21:57
* bskahan nods21:57
jintybut otherwise asking on #ubuntu-motu or ubuntu-devel is normally enough21:57
jintyif the new packaging stuff works out, I plan to ask for inclusion in breezy main. But that's quite a big if.21:58
bskahanok, elkner just made me nervous when he said breezy was frozen21:59
* jinty notes that Oliver Gravert is a MOTU (perhaps more) and was on the CC of mark's reply21:59
bskahanI think he may be working on Edubuntu22:00
jintyfrozen is a relative term when talking about ubuntu freezes22:00
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