IRC log of #schooltool for Wednesday, 2005-08-03

povbot/svn/commits: * srichter committed revision 4480:00:08
povbot/svn/commits: - Merged the srichter-workflow branch.00:08
povbot/svn/commits: - Added a Python 2.3 firendly version of testbrowser.00:08
povbot/svn/commits: - Switched ST to the Zope 3.1 branch.00:08
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povbot/svn/commits: * srichter committed revision 4481:00:34
povbot/svn/commits: Merged in devmode work.00:34
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povbot/svn/commits: * srichter committed revision 4482:00:35
povbot/svn/commits: We do not need this anymore.00:35
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pcardunehow do you call @@absolute_url in python?02:41
pcardunenvm, i found it02:45
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povbot/svn/commits: * srichter committed revision 4483:14:55
povbot/svn/commits: First cut at developer tools UI in devmode. I like what I have come up with thus far.14:55
srichteralga: are you guys on vacation these days? you are so quiet :-)14:58
ignasmarius is on vacation15:00
ignasand only gintas is working on ST at the moment15:00
* ignas and alga are tackling a different project15:01
srichterI see15:01
srichtergood morning15:05
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srichterI really like povbuildbot15:11
bskahanI'd like it to report to IRC15:11
bskahanwhen something fails15:11
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srichterbut you can listen privately to it15:13
srichterthat's good, espsecially if you just checked in code15:14
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bskahandeveloper tools menu is nice15:29
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srichterI am not a UI developer, so if someone could figure out those UI bugs, I would greatly appreciate it15:32
srichteralso, does someone here know how to give the box rounded edges?15:32
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tvonwhich box?15:34
* tvon looks up logs15:34
srichterthe developer tools box15:34
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tvonI think something killed my previous wc15:36
srichterI will not leave :-)15:37
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SteveA"I think something killed my previous wc"15:46
SteveAdoes schooltool have a quotes page?15:46
srichteryeah, that's a good one15:46
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ignasSteveA, can you explain the joke ?15:52
srichterWC == toilet15:52
ignasi thought it was something more complex15:53
srichterWC == working copy15:53
SteveAi have a personal history of visiting kit blake's place in rotterdam15:53
SteveAand destroying his WC15:53
tvonalright, I'm adding top-level menu items to the sidebar in the site-wide calendar15:55
tvonThen I'm poking the devmode menu with a pointy stick15:56
srichtergreat, thanks15:56
tvonschoolbell ftests are failing here (in a schooltool checkout)15:57
tvonI wonder how many gigs of my disk are devoted to duplicate z3 code15:57
srichtermmh, can you tell me which one?15:59
srichterare you using py 2.3?16:00
tvonftesting.zcml fails trying to import mechanize16:00
srichteroh, did I forget to check this in? mmmh.16:00
tvonI guess ftests arent actually failing at all16:00
tvonI'm getting a sb checkout, thought maybe it wasnt added to st16:00
srichterhold on, sb should not have testbrowser16:00
tvonah, k16:00
srichteronly schooltool does16:01
gintasyou guys should have a look at buildbot regularly16:08
srichterI did check it and it said everything is ok16:08
tvonI actually don't see it failing on that16:08
tvonthats why I thought my 'wc' was broken16:09
povbot/svn/commits: * gintas committed revision 4484:16:09
povbot/svn/commits: Shuffling Debian-specific stuff.16:09
povbot/svn/commits: * gintas committed revision 4485:16:11
povbot/svn/commits: Moving debian stuff into trunk, it seems to suit better in there.16:11
povbot/svn/commits: * gintas committed revision 4486:16:11
povbot/svn/commits: Moving schooltool debian stuff into a separate package.16:11
povbot/svn/commits: * gintas committed revision 4487:16:12
povbot/svn/commits: Moving schoolbell debian stuff into a separate package.16:12
povbot/svn/commits: * gintas committed revision 4488:16:14
povbot/svn/commits: Removing obsolete debian stuff in release branch.16:14
gintasWell, after srichter's commit buildbot says SchoolTool's unit tests are broken16:15
tvonah, I was looking at schoolbell16:16
srichtergintas: where is the web site?16:16
srichterit's totally rediculous16:19
*** srichter changes topic to "SchoolTool development | IRC logs at | Buildbot: | Developer meetings Mondays 13:30 UTC"16:19
*** srichter changes topic to "SchoolTool development | IRC logs at | Buildbot: | Dev meetings Mon, 13:30 UTC"16:19
bskahan_I think the schoolbell branch could probably die at this point, there nothing in SB that isn't in ST.  If we really want the subset of features we could figure out how to disable ST features within its own tree16:22
bskahan_worth discussing on Monday16:23
srichterbskahan_: I'll send E-mails out too16:24
srichterDiscussion is almost no option for this anymore16:24
gintasI'd really want to hear what Marius has to say before we do anything16:25
srichterschoolbell must become a different form of packaging schooltool16:25
srichterthat's easy once we make the setup of STApp flexible16:25
bskahan_gintas: me too, I wasn't suggesting doing it now16:26
povbot/svn/commits: * srichter committed revision 4489:16:26
bskahan_I'm not sure we get very much utility from schoolbell at this point16:26
povbot/svn/commits: Fix tests reported by buildbot.16:26
srichteris Marius back on Monday?16:26
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povbot/svn/commits: * srichter committed revision 4490:16:31
povbot/svn/commits: Add mechanize, which I forgot before.16:31
povbot/svn/commits: * tvon committed revision 4491:16:38
povbot/svn/commits: temporary fix to show the top-level nav in the app.calendar. this should be backported.16:38
gintasah, the fun begins16:39
tvonone more of those16:39
tvoncoming soon16:39
povbot/svn/commits: * srichter committed revision 4492:16:39
povbot/svn/commits: Okay, I think we need Python 2.4's version of urllib2. Let's see.16:39
srichteris there any way I can get into the ST server to test the stuff?16:45
srichterI don't have Py 2.3 and isntalling it with xmllib2 would be a major pain in the butt16:45
povbot/svn/commits: * tvon committed revision 4493:16:46
ignastvon: btw according to google baltimore is 302 km away from New York so your conversion was pretty accurate ;)16:46
povbot/svn/commits: nav fix for SB.  should be backported16:46
bskahan_ignas: ;)16:47
tvoneh? conversation?16:48
srichterconversion from miles to km16:49
bskahan_I think that was directed to me16:49
ignasit was to bskahan not tvon ;)16:49
tvonoh, heh16:49
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povbot/svn/commits: * srichter committed revision 4494:16:55
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povbot/svn/commits: Okay, let's try this. It passes for 2.4, so let's hope the same is true for 2.3.16:55
tvonpassing so far..17:02
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tvonschooltool/level/browser/README.txt fails with 2.317:04
tvonline 12, "AttributeError: 'PublisherConnection' object has no attribute 'putrequest'"17:04
srichteryeah, I am still looking at it17:05
* tvon nods17:05
srichterI don;t have Py 2.3, so I always have to wait for the bot to tell me17:05
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povbot/svn/commits: * srichter committed revision 4495:17:32
povbot/svn/commits: Trying this route again; Hopefully I can make Py 2.4's urllib2 work in Py 2.3.17:32
gintascookielib appears not to be available17:33
gintasthis might not be the easiest way after all17:33
srichterwell, we can add cookielib as well :-)17:35
povbot/svn/commits: * srichter committed revision 4496:17:37
povbot/svn/commits: Ok, urllib2 seems to need this.17:37
povbot/svn/commits: * srichter committed revision 4497:17:43
povbot/svn/commits: try some more libs; note: I will clean this up, once it is running.17:43
povbot/svn/commits: * gintas committed revision 4498:17:45
povbot/svn/commits: Added missing Section: field for package source.17:45
povbot/svn/commits: * srichter committed revision 4499:17:46
povbot/svn/commits: MAke the module 2.3 compat.17:46
gintasI wonder if it would be sane to make the Debian packages depend on python2.417:47
srichterit would :-)17:47
gintaspython2.4 is in Debian Stable and Testing, and in Hoary as well17:47
srichternote that those failures do not happen in the branch though17:48
povbot/svn/commits: * srichter committed revision 4500:17:48
povbot/svn/commits: We are getting there.17:48
gintasso it would just get dragged in as a dependency without any pain for the user17:48
algagintas: by all means, it's a good idea17:48
gintasI believe python2.4 is not available in Warty though17:48
gintasI wonder if that's a problem17:49
srichterok, the module route is definitely a no-go17:51
srichterat the end I will replace the entire standard lib17:51
srichterso I am going to isntall Py 2.3 and fix the Conenction API17:52
gintasare you on a Debian distro?  In that case installing python2.3 should be relatively painless17:56
povbot/svn/commits: * srichter committed revision 4501:17:57
povbot/svn/commits: Alright, giving up this path. I will provide a Py 2.3 compatible testbrowser ina  moment.17:57
srichterI dislike Debian with a passion17:58
bska|mobilegintas: users with warty (and hoary for that matter) won't be able to apt-get install 0.1118:00
povbot/svn/commits: * gintas committed revision 4502:18:02
povbot/svn/commits: Updated debian package configuration to use python2.4.  This now seems sensible for me as python2.4 is available on Debian stable, testing and unstable, and Ubuntu hoary.18:02
povbot/svn/commits: The only problem is that python2.4 is not available on warty. I'm not sure if that's a showstopper or not.18:02
gintasbska|mobile, I know.  They might be able to dpkg -i 0.11 though if we used python2.318:02
gintastvon, do I need to backport both 4491 and 4493?18:04
tvongintas: yeah, they are for st and sb respectively18:05
tvonI cant effing draw a plain ol triangle in gimp18:11
bska|mobiletvon: use inkscape18:12
tvonbska|mobile: heh, thats exactly what I'm doing18:13
srichteris inkscape free?18:14
bska|mobilesrichter: yes18:14
tvoninkscape is sweet18:14
srichterah, it's a vector drawing program18:15
tvona fork of Sodipodi from about a year ago18:24
srichterI see18:25
tvononly project I know of that primarily uses jabber MUC for online discussion18:26
* tvon tries to think of some more random useless facts18:26
povbot/svn/commits: * tvon committed revision 4503:18:28
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povbot/svn/commits: partial facelift18:28
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tvonbtw, the devtools box overlaps with the calendar view nav buttons, but I don't expect those buttons to be where they are for that much longer18:30
srichtereven just the title box?18:31
tvonaint much room in the schoolbell header box18:31
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tvondamn net18:49
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povbot/svn/commits: * tvon committed revision 4504:18:50
povbot/svn/commits: Some tweaks18:50
povbot/svn/commits: * tvon committed revision 4505:19:07
povbot/svn/commits: Redundant line19:07
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povbot/svn/commits: * gintas committed revision 4506:19:39
povbot/svn/commits: Updated changelogs.19:39
povbot/svn/commits: * tvon committed revision 4507:19:39
povbot/svn/commits: whitespace19:39
povbot/svn/commits: * gintas committed revision 4508:19:45
povbot/svn/commits: Added my simple but useful deb building script.19:45
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povbot/svn/commits: * tvon committed revision 4509:19:52
povbot/svn/commits: it is now19:52
povbot/svn/commits: * gintas committed revision 4510:19:59
povbot/svn/commits: Updated Debian package descriptions.19:59
povbot/svn/commits: * srichter committed revision 4511:20:15
povbot/svn/commits: Make testbrowser Python 2.3 compatible.20:15
srichterschooltool branch is fixed again!20:20
povbot/svn/commits: * gintas committed revision 4512:20:21
povbot/svn/commits: Updated .deb builder script.20:21
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povbot/svn/commits: * gintas committed revision 4513:20:31
povbot/svn/commits: Backported revision 4493 ( nav fix for SB).20:31
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povbot/svn/commits: Backported revision 4491 (temporary fix to show the top-level nav in the app.calendar).20:31
povbot/svn/commits: * gintas committed revision 4515:20:32
povbot/svn/commits: Updated version marker.20:32
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povbot/svn/commits: Tagging SchoolTool rc1.20:35
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povbot/svn/commits: Tagging SchoolBell 1.2rc1.20:35
povbot/svn/commits: * gintas committed revision 4519:20:38
povbot/svn/commits: Bind SchoolTool rc1 to SchoolBell rc1.20:38
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povbot/svn/commits: Added a dependency on reportlab.20:42
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povbot/svn/commits: Make schooltool depend on the new schoolbell version.20:42
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povbot/svn/commits: Doh!20:47
povbot/svn/commits: * gintas committed revision 4523:20:48
povbot/svn/commits: Use gnu_getopt.20:48
povbot/svn/commits: * gintas committed revision 4524:20:49
povbot/svn/commits: Make clean pass silently if there are no files to remove.20:49
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povbot/svn/commits: Removed obsolete call.20:54
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pcarduneis there a way i can add entire folders as resources in zcml?21:26
srichter<browser:resourceDirectory ...>21:27
* bskahan_ wonders if there's any reason not to do that for our resources directory21:27
pcardunevery useful that is21:28
srichterI was wondering about the same earlier this week21:31
bskahan_I think we can, there's nothing in that directory that I can think of that isn't individually included and it would make the configure.zcml more readable21:32
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pcardunesrichter: is there any online documentation for resourceDirectory, or even just a zcml reference in general? online?21:48
srichterof course21:48
pcarduneI can't seem to find it21:48
srichterif you install plain Zope 3 you can just say:21:48
srichterthe new devmode I am developing right now for schooltool will have apidoc integrated as well21:49
pcardunebut even so, they should have it online21:49
srichterthe apidocs depend heavily on your setup21:49
srichterand it comes with every Zope 3 installation21:50
pcardunewell, I just want the basic zcml reference, not the entire api doc online21:51
srichterwell, it's part of apidoc21:51
srichterthe ZCML reference also depends on your setup21:51
pcardunehow do i get to the site with tales?  or what is the equivalent of @@absolute_url that instead gets the root site?22:01
srichterwhat do you try to do again?22:02
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pcardunenvm, i think i may have found it22:02
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pcardunehmm, i'm trying to make use of FCKeditor in Zope3, anyone ever looked into that?22:14
srichterping projekt01 in #zope3-dev22:15
srichterin fact he has already widgets22:15
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povbot/svn/commits: * srichter committed revision 4526:22:24
povbot/svn/commits: Implemented the Introspector view in devmode. Check it out; I think it could be useful. ;-)22:24
povbot/svn/commits: I still owe you guys some ftests for this code.22:24
srichterok, I justed checked in the introspector code; I hope you like it22:25
srichtergintas: is ST friendly to frames, or is that a big no-no?22:26
bska|mobilesrichter: I'd be opposed to it without a very convincing argument22:29
srichterok, it would be for apidoc22:29
bska|mobileif its only in dev mode I'm not sure I'd have much issue with it22:29
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srichtersame usage as in the standard Zope 3 apidoc22:29
bska|mobileI think that's fine for now22:29
bska|mobiledoesn't impact end users at all22:30
gintassrichter, I don't mind frames at all if they're in dev mode only22:32
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povbot/svn/commits: * srichter committed revision 4527:23:57
povbot/svn/commits: Tweaked introspector some more.23:57
povbot/svn/commits: Also, it works better now due to the bug fix in Zope 3.1.23:57

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