IRC log of #schooltool for Tuesday, 2005-06-14

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povbot/svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 4093:13:46
povbot/svn/commits: Back-ported 4085:4090 for issues 285 and 256. This seems to be the last thing to back port, so I will start releasing soon unless something else pops up.13:46
povbot/svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 4094:13:54
povbot/svn/commits: Back port r4088 to fix issue 100 in the schoolbelll release branch. Likewise, schoolbell 1.1.1 coming soon.13:54
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th1aWell, my car mechanic apparently has wireless.  Nice.17:23
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th1aerchache: hi17:24
erchachei dont tested 1.1 yet :(17:25
erchachemy power supply laptop has broken :(((((((((((((((17:25
th1aThat stinks.17:25
erchachenew one cost me 90 € but i have a insurance service and dont cost me nothing :D17:25
th1aThat's good.17:26
erchachebut i think this is the begin of the end of my laptop.....because internal plug of laptop i think is broken too....runs but before or after....dies!17:27
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maharajadoes any1 know where the webdav put stuff is parsed?17:39
maharajawhen i change a calendar event?17:39
* th1a pokes ignas and tvon.17:41
tvonI'm afraid I don't know anything about webdav in z317:41
* tvon pokes ignas 17:42
th1amaharaja:  You want to know where we parse the XML?17:45
ignaswebdav ?17:49
ignasare we doing webdav ?17:50
th1aWell, webdav PUTs = HTTP PUTs, right?17:50
th1aNow we seem to have lost maharaja :-(17:51
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th1aalga:  I'm responding to your email now.18:00
th1aalga:  I'm not sure precisely what changes you're refering to when you say "The infrastructure changes for this and the Emergency Days stories would take about 2 days."18:04
algashould I explain them here?18:08
th1aThat's why I asked here :-)18:08
algabasically, now the day templates are looked up by weekday18:08
algawe would add an "override" dict that would add day templates looked up by date18:09
algait would allow to represent emergencies and special days cleanly18:09
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algakind of timetable exceptions, but on the day level18:10
th1aday templates create the timetable calendar for a given day?18:10
algathey define slots and the sequence of periods, basically18:11
th1aOK, here's my concern in the long run, which I've been assuming we'll deal with later.18:11
th1aBut let me know if it is relevant to the current situation.18:11
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th1aA teacher creates an assignment, for the 9:00 period, May 7th (day 162).18:15
th1aThat period is moved to 10:00 because of a school assembly.18:16
th1aIdeally, the assignment shifts automatically as well.18:16
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th1aOur whole timetable structure is not designed to do that kind of thing, right.18:16
algathe assignment is an event in a calendar18:17
algait has a start date and a time18:17
th1aWell, it would be its own future object.18:17
th1aIn the future, a teacher would create an assignment as its own kind of object.18:17
th1aAnd it either would have an explict due date, or a reference to a period in the timetable.18:18
algaIn that case, we can make it behave correctly18:18
povbot/svn/commits: * tvon committed revision 4095:18:18
povbot/svn/commits: Modified jinty's patch for 184 to put the SB version in the footer.18:18
th1aIf we spend the two extra days now to do exceptions in the timetable mechanism rather than just paper it over with timetable events?18:19
th1apaper it over with calendar events.18:19
th1aThat is.18:19
algaWell, if we make the timetable correct, it will be easier to bind to it18:20
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algaIf the assignment is for the period A on 162nd day18:20
algaand the timetable is changes so that there is not 162nd day,18:21
th1aThis is also relevant to precise attendance record keeping.18:21
algathe assignment would find the nearest suitable period18:21
th1aOK.  I guess we should do it the right way :-)  Especially since it doesn't take as much extra time as I thought.  I suppose that's the advantage of already having done it once ;-)18:23
th1aOK.  I'll finish the mail.18:23
algaWell, timetable exceptions as they were done were a pain in the ass18:23
algaI feel this solution will be much cleaner18:23
th1aOh, ok.18:24
th1aWhat's the difference between the two?18:24
algaexceptions for each event were spread in a lot of places18:25
algathey needed support from calendar views18:25
algaand lots of places in timetables18:25
algaNow, choosing a day template for a particular day is a single localised place18:26
th1aalga:  Reply sent.18:28
algaregarding undoing changes, I have a general idea of how to proceed18:31
algawe might allow the user to place one more override, putting back the way it was18:31
algaif a mistake would happen18:31
th1aWe can't literally just undo the mistake.18:33
bskahaninteresting, school oriented smartcard system18:36
bskahanin python18:36
th1aThus the snake.18:36
algath1a: yes, you can go to the ZMI undo view, choose the correct transaction and undo it18:39
algain order to make it usable for the user,18:39
algamarius suggests tagging transactions with sensible comments on what is done there18:39
povbot/svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 4096:18:39
povbot/svn/commits: Generalize the schooltool clean rule and port it to SchoolBell.18:39
algaand then make a view that allows the user to choose the correct transaction according to these comments18:40
th1aThat'll be in the next contract.18:40
th1aThe one after the one you're writing now.18:41
alganeeds spiking18:41
bskahanalga: do you know what the old Error url was (three weeks ago) off the top of your head?18:42
th1aOK.  Heading back home...  ttyl.18:42
bskahanI can track it down if you don't18:42
th1abskahan:  Did you see my email about that?18:42
bskahanI see Bruce's18:42
th1aThe login page doesn't redirect you to that URL.18:42
algaerror url?  the error reporting service?18:43
th1aMaybe I only sent it to him accidentally.18:43
th1aOnce you log in as manager, you can go directly there.18:43
bskahanI suspect zope that's in 1.1.1 is right before the url changed to RootError from ErrorSomething18:43
th1aBut the login page won't send you there.18:43
th1aThat is, unless I'm on crack.18:43
bskahanits possible18:43
th1aThat seemed to be the case.18:44
bskahanwe need to see about making schooltool's skin play nice with the ZMI18:44
th1aYes.  Next contract.18:44
maharajath1a: stil there ?18:48
maharajai was talking about the http put method18:48
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maharajaand the "put bug" (issue262)18:57
maharajai would like to fix that18:57
maharajaah, damn18:57
maharajath1a is off18:57
ignas /schoolbell/src/schoolbell/calendar/icalendar.py18:59
ignasthe place where you should modify stuff to fix 26218:59
povbot/svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 4097:19:19
povbot/svn/commits: Back-port clean rule as a quick fix to make things work.19:19
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povbot/svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 4098:19:46
povbot/svn/commits: Tag schoolbell 1.1.119:46
povbot/svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 4099:20:05
povbot/svn/commits: Cut un-completed parts of RELEASE20:05
povbot/svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 4100:20:06
povbot/svn/commits: Tag schooltool 0.1020:06
povbot/svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 4101:20:07
povbot/svn/commits: bump schoolbell version no.20:07
povbot/svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 4102:20:09
povbot/svn/commits: bump schoolbell/debian version no.20:09
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dwooI have a question. I was tinkering around with the templates in schoolbell, but whenever I made changes tehy weren't relfected in the schooltool instance. What's going on?20:12
bskahandwoo: some templates are not shared20:12 is one of them ;)20:12
bskahandwoo: its not an ideal situation, if you have any good suggestions for making that more understandable, I'd be very interested in hearing about it20:14
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dwooSorry, we were changing the schoolbell and not the schooltool one. Sorry to waste your time.20:14
povbot/svn/commits: * tvon committed revision 4103:20:15
povbot/svn/commits: whoops, forgot this with the 4095 commit20:15
bskahandon't worry, its not a waste of time.  we need to make sure these things are easy for people to understand20:16
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povbot/svn/commits: * tvon committed revision 4104:20:36
povbot/svn/commits: Display version number in footer.20:36
povbot/svn/commits: * jinty committed revision 4105:20:40
povbot/svn/commits: Bump schooltool version number20:40
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jelknerhi tom23:59

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