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| -->SteveA (~steve@office.pov.lt) has joined #schooltool | 16:04 | |
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| *ChrisW pokes Steve | 16:23 | |
| ChrisW | you alive? | 16:23 |
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| SteveA | no | 16:24 |
| SteveA | well, | 16:24 |
| SteveA | perhaps | 16:24 |
| SteveA | wassup? | 16:24 |
| ChrisW | erm? | 16:24 |
| ChrisW | *grinz* | 16:24 |
| ChrisW | you use twisted.web? | 16:24 |
| SteveA | yes | 16:25 |
| SteveA | at least, I think so :) | 16:25 |
| ChrisW | any idea what this means: | 16:26 |
| ChrisW | http://81.5.181.26:8000/ | 16:26 |
| ChrisW | ? | 16:26 |
| ChrisW | I'm going through the twisted tutorial right now | 16:26 |
| ChrisW | pretty impressed so far, and the syntax highlting in the error message is nice | 16:26 |
| ChrisW | just not what I want to see ;-) | 16:26 |
| SteveA | the resource is None | 16:26 |
| ChrisW | yo are a god | 16:27 |
| ChrisW | I think | 16:27 |
| ChrisW | hang on | 16:27 |
| ChrisW | thank you :-) | 16:27 |
| ChrisW | you are much mroe deft at analysing problems than the twisted people ;-) | 16:27 |
| SteveA | I am still clueless :) | 16:27 |
| SteveA | I just read the traceback back to you | 16:28 |
| ChrisW | and my copy and paste skills leave a LOT to be desired ;-) | 16:28 |
| SteveA | that doesn't mean I understand it :) | 16:28 |
| ChrisW | where did you find the bit that indicate resource is None? | 16:29 |
| ChrisW | aha, I see now | 16:29 |
| ChrisW | wow, so they have a seperate big chunk for each stack frame? | 16:29 |
| ChrisW | or, not stack frame... what are they? | 16:29 |
| SteveA | yeah, stack frame | 16:30 |
| SteveA | that's what they look like | 16:30 |
| ChrisW | cool | 16:30 |
| ChrisW | well, ta for your help, back to the tutorial for me | 16:31 |
| ChrisW | you have any joy with the Kirrio stuff? | 16:31 |
| mgedmin | ChrisW: it looks like tha traverse method of a resource somewhere returns None | 16:32 |
| SteveA | no reply from the yet | 16:32 |
| mgedmin | it is not supposed to do that | 16:32 |
| ChrisW | ah, remember now | 16:32 |
| ChrisW | was going to say | 16:32 |
| ChrisW | they only speak french | 16:32 |
| SteveA | do you have a phone number from kirro? | 16:32 |
| SteveA | do you speak french? | 16:33 |
| SteveA | Je parle francais un peut | 16:33 |
| ChrisW | No, but the software's what you care about | 16:33 |
| ChrisW | same as me | 16:33 |
| ChrisW | lemme see if I can find the number of the woman I spoke to: | 16:33 |
| SteveA | merci bian | 16:33 |
| SteveA | bien | 16:33 |
| SteveA | bean | 16:33 |
| ChrisW | http://www.viamichelin.com/viamichelin/gbr/tpl/prs/cov/doc/PR_MapSonic%20launch_UK.pdf | 16:34 |
| ChrisW | phone Tina With-Seidelin | 16:35 |
| ChrisW | her number's in there | 16:35 |
| ChrisW | marketing manager or some such | 16:35 |
| ChrisW | very switched on :-) | 16:35 |
| SteveA | thanks | 16:35 |
| ChrisW | just cehecked my maps though ,sadly no Lithuania :-S | 16:36 |
| SteveA | the vectors are available for lithuania | 16:37 |
| SteveA | so it might just be a case of getting them into kirro's format | 16:37 |
| ChrisW | well, ViaMichelin MapSonic format, but yes | 16:37 |
| ChrisW | Kirrio make the hardware and sell the packages | 16:37 |
| ChrisW | ViaMichelin do the mapping software | 16:37 |
| SteveA | ok | 16:38 |
| ChrisW | BTW, where's the twisted bug tracker? | 16:38 |
| SteveA | #twisted? ;_) | 16:38 |
| ChrisW | hehe, okay, the web based one? | 16:38 |
| SteveA | dunno | 16:38 |
| SteveA | didn't find any twisted bugs when we were using it, | 16:39 |
| ChrisW | oh, and I meant to ask you | 16:39 |
| SteveA | just differences of opinion | 16:39 |
| ChrisW | "were using it"? | 16:39 |
| ChrisW | you not using it anymore? | 16:39 |
| SteveA | still using it | 16:40 |
| SteveA | but that part is done | 16:40 |
| SteveA | no need to develop on it further | 16:40 |
| ChrisW | using any bits of Zope 2/3 in it yet? | 16:40 |
| SteveA | not really | 16:40 |
| ChrisW | *nods* | 16:40 |
| SteveA | after the z3 release, we'll probably use components | 16:40 |
| ChrisW | aha | 16:40 |
| ChrisW | that's what Iwas going to ask you | 16:40 |
| SteveA | and use zope's events | 16:40 |
| ChrisW | looked at twisted's components? | 16:40 |
| SteveA | not really | 16:40 |
| SteveA | callable interfaces, right? | 16:41 |
| ChrisW | very close to what I remember Z3's being like | 16:41 |
| ChrisW | looks like they grew a bit | 16:41 |
| SteveA | well, they were forked from an earlier Z3 one | 16:41 |
| ChrisW | they seem to have interfaces and adapters | 16:41 |
| SteveA | yes | 16:41 |
| ChrisW | and some other bit s and pieces | 16:41 |
| SteveA | z3 has / will have some very useful adapter things | 16:41 |
| SteveA | that I haven't seen elsewhere | 16:41 |
| SteveA | subscription adapters and partial adapters | 16:42 |
| SteveA | I have a vague plan of doing a Component Programming for Python Programmers talk or tutorial at EP | 16:42 |
| ChrisW | ooo, that might be fun | 16:42 |
| ChrisW | how about at UK python too? | 16:42 |
| SteveA | I won't be there | 16:43 |
| SteveA | I'm somewhat tired of my last several months of travelling -- time to get some actual work done :) | 16:43 |
| ChrisW | hehe | 16:44 |
| ChrisW | goood point :) | 16:44 |
| ChrisW | crap, twisted's roundup tracker is fucked | 16:46 |
| SteveA | hey... watch the language | 16:47 |
| SteveA | this is a "school" channel | 16:47 |
| SteveA | ;-) | 16:47 |
| ChrisW | oh, sorry... | 16:47 |
| ChrisW | where's the language policy advertised? ;-) | 16:48 |
| SteveA | it isn't, you just get expelled | 16:48 |
| SteveA | nowadys, "getting caned" means something different though | 16:48 |
| ChrisW | indeed | 16:49 |
| SteveA | the viamichelein website knows about vilnius | 16:51 |
| SteveA | hmm, but not to any detail | 16:52 |
| ChrisW | :-S | 16:54 |
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| ChrisW | righty, back to work for me.. | 17:07 |
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| mgedmin | a schooltool user experienced a strange problem on winxp | 17:13 |
| mgedmin | __file__ was not defined in schooltool-server.py and other runnable scripts | 17:13 |
| mgedmin | any ideas? | 17:14 |
| SteveA | do we need to use __file__ ? | 17:14 |
| mgedmin | well, sys.argv[0] would do as well | 17:17 |
| mgedmin | that top-level script inserts the proper source directory into sys.path | 17:17 |
| mgedmin | and the proper source directory is discovered via __file__ | 17:17 |
| mgedmin | I thought __file__ was supposed to be available in all Python scripts since 2.3 | 17:18 |
| mgedmin | the user saw this problem with Python 2.3.3 | 17:18 |
| SteveA | that sounds like a python bug | 20:03 |
| SteveA | not really related: | 20:05 |
| SteveA | http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2004-February/021620.html | 20:05 |
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