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| th1a | hi menesis, replaceafill, yvl. | 15:30 |
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| replaceafill | good afternoon | 15:31 |
| yvl | good morning / afternoon | 15:32 |
| th1a | First off, we got a small journal bug regarding the end of the month? | 15:33 |
| th1a | Did you see that yvl? | 15:34 |
| yvl | yes | 15:34 |
| yvl | did not look into it yet | 15:34 |
| yvl | will do | 15:34 |
| th1a | OK, I'll assign that to you yvl. | 15:36 |
| th1a | The relationship status work seems good so far. | 15:36 |
| th1a | Any questions about the next steps? | 15:37 |
| yvl | umm | 15:38 |
| yvl | well, there are things to do for at least several days | 15:38 |
| yvl | I think it would be good to go through all of schooltool | 15:38 |
| yvl | and ask a question "if a student is in section, but pending/withdrawn, should he be here?" | 15:39 |
| yvl | pretty sure I'll miss many places like that | 15:39 |
| th1a | OK. Showing them by default would probably be better than silently hiding them. | 15:40 |
| th1a | For the places you miss. | 15:40 |
| th1a | We'll need checkboxes some places. | 15:40 |
| th1a | Gradebooks. | 15:40 |
| yvl | and what of other places? | 15:40 |
| th1a | Checkboxes in the gradebooks, that is. | 15:40 |
| yvl | are there places where showing data from withdrawn students would be wrong? | 15:40 |
| th1a | Well... | 15:41 |
| th1a | It is very much a business logic issue. | 15:41 |
| th1a | So maybe we'll need a lot of checkboxes. | 15:41 |
| th1a | Because some people will require them on reports, some won't want to see them. | 15:41 |
| yvl | or maybe there are some sensible solutions | 15:41 |
| th1a | For example, this was an issue in Jennifer's evaluation last year. | 15:42 |
| yvl | true | 15:42 |
| th1a | They now have to do these things where they set specific goals for their students and have to pre and post test them for the teacher's evaluation. | 15:42 |
| th1a | And Jennifer's results were a bit short, until she learned that she could exempt anyone with a certain number of absences. | 15:43 |
| th1a | It isn't exactly the same, but similar. | 15:43 |
| th1a | Anyhow, there is no standard way of doing it. | 15:43 |
| th1a | For reports. | 15:43 |
| th1a | But basically for just the section index, etc., you want to label them. | 15:44 |
| yvl | there are also permissions | 15:44 |
| yvl | need revisiting | 15:44 |
| th1a | For the gradebooks and reports you'll have to be able to select. | 15:44 |
| yvl | since we now have "persons who have access today" "had access earlier" "will have access some day" | 15:44 |
| th1a | Like the CanDo reports will be a little tricky. We should have replaceafill do those. | 15:45 |
| th1a | Yes, yvl. | 15:45 |
| th1a | Now... is that stuff done now by active year? | 15:45 |
| th1a | Or date? | 15:45 |
| yvl | by active date | 15:45 |
| th1a | Or just kind of fudged?!? | 15:45 |
| th1a | Which year is set as active. | 15:46 |
| th1a | Or the actual date? | 15:46 |
| yvl | yes | 15:46 |
| th1a | lol | 15:46 |
| yvl | to be clear, it works like this: | 15:46 |
| yvl | there's a flag "active" | 15:46 |
| yvl | that currently works like adding or removing person before | 15:47 |
| yvl | there are dates, "state applicable since X" | 15:47 |
| yvl | and that is that | 15:48 |
| yvl | you can query (in code) | 15:48 |
| yvl | what was/will be the state on date | 15:48 |
| yvl | did X have state Y at some point | 15:48 |
| yvl | IMHO this should be enough | 15:49 |
| yvl | maybe add "states in date range" | 15:49 |
| th1a | This is how it works in your new branch currently? | 15:50 |
| yvl | yes | 15:50 |
| yvl | for permissions, it now works very simply | 15:50 |
| yvl | are you an active student of this section NOW? | 15:50 |
| th1a | Yes, that's correct. | 15:50 |
| yvl | for reports and other things... well. | 15:50 |
| yvl | I sense a bunch of new features coming up :) | 15:51 |
| th1a | I guess you *might* want a special state for people who once were in a section or who have a preliminary enrollment, but that's a low priority I'd say. | 15:51 |
| yvl | we can add that as we have actual use cases | 15:52 |
| yvl | as in views or reports that need this | 15:52 |
| yvl | since if it's only some specific view or report | 15:52 |
| yvl | you can just, well, query | 15:52 |
| yvl | like... we query | 15:53 |
| th1a | It doesn't strike me as a big deal. | 15:53 |
| th1a | It is certainly not a standard feature. | 15:53 |
| yvl | cando things for reports | 15:53 |
| yvl | "display all competent or above" | 15:53 |
| yvl | kk | 15:53 |
| yvl | btw | 15:54 |
| yvl | just to be extra clear :) | 15:55 |
| yvl | I'd really like to keep active flag mimicking current schooltool behaviour | 15:55 |
| yvl | i.e. | 15:55 |
| yvl | persons who are not active today, are excluded from reports, gradebooks, security and so on | 15:56 |
| yvl | and then fix those views | 15:56 |
| th1a | Yes, that should be fine. | 15:57 |
| yvl | as opposed to "persons who are active/pending/withdrawn or anything else" are included by default | 15:57 |
| yvl | thanks | 15:57 |
| th1a | It also depends on how we want this to interact with year statuses. | 15:57 |
| yvl | makes my life easier ;) | 15:57 |
| th1a | Because that's going to be another layer. | 15:57 |
| yvl | please explain a bit | 15:58 |
| th1a | In case you haven't been thinking about that yet. | 15:58 |
| th1a | So... | 15:58 |
| th1a | So the active year machinery is going to need to do more. | 15:58 |
| th1a | Although maybe it doesn't really need to be as complicated. | 15:58 |
| th1a | Essentially we need setup > active > archived workflow for years. | 15:59 |
| th1a | And hm... | 15:59 |
| th1a | We just have to consider if we want to do some kind of mass change to, say, section statuses when we do that. | 16:00 |
| th1a | I guess we probably don't. | 16:00 |
| th1a | One way to look at it is that when you archive the year, everyone is flipped to an inactive status in all the sections. | 16:00 |
| th1a | OTOH, that's a massive irreversible change with one click, so probably not. | 16:01 |
| th1a | But the two do interact. | 16:01 |
| yvl | well | 16:01 |
| yvl | maybe we could start by adding a simple flag to a year | 16:02 |
| yvl | "setup" | 16:02 |
| yvl | that means "this year does not count as is for experimentation" | 16:02 |
| th1a | It isn't as complicated I guess since you don't need to, say, track the dates of the changes of states. | 16:03 |
| yvl | and keep the "active year" thing | 16:03 |
| th1a | The year statuses may just be a couple flags and a lot of permissions fiddling. | 16:03 |
| yvl | looks like it | 16:04 |
| yvl | also | 16:04 |
| yvl | if student is enrolled in Math 2012 fall, | 16:04 |
| yvl | and now is 2014 | 16:04 |
| yvl | he should be still an active member of Math 2012 fall | 16:05 |
| yvl | just the records locked | 16:05 |
| yvl | maybe his state can be switched to active / completed course | 16:05 |
| yvl | but that's another matter | 16:05 |
| th1a | Well... I'd say in a perfect world his status would be "completed" or something like that. | 16:05 |
| th1a | Yes, it is not what I want to bite off atm. | 16:06 |
| th1a | But it is clearly useful. | 16:06 |
| yvl | well | 16:06 |
| yvl | funny thing | 16:06 |
| th1a | If you want a transcript, for example! | 16:06 |
| yvl | users can do that now :) | 16:06 |
| yvl | (in my branch) | 16:06 |
| th1a | Yes... | 16:06 |
| yvl | just Edit Memberships, create a completed state... | 16:06 |
| th1a | We should consider a hardwired "Completed" or "Passed" state. | 16:07 |
| th1a | Successfully Completed. | 16:07 |
| th1a | Something like that. | 16:07 |
| th1a | It would probably be worth throwing that in because then we can rely on it being there for a lot of future business logic. | 16:08 |
| yvl | hmm, ok | 16:08 |
| yvl | good point | 16:08 |
| yvl | very good point | 16:08 |
| yvl | also, there may be more than one success state I guess | 16:08 |
| yvl | Successfully Completed With Honors | 16:09 |
| yvl | to reflect in transcripts and whatnot | 16:09 |
| th1a | Yeah, but we don't need to over-do it. | 16:09 |
| th1a | Right now. | 16:09 |
| yvl | yes | 16:09 |
| yvl | it's one of those situations | 16:09 |
| yvl | "we need a completed state" | 16:09 |
| yvl | and my question | 16:10 |
| yvl | is will we ever need more than one? | 16:10 |
| yvl | or we can safely say: we will never ever need more than one. | 16:10 |
| th1a | It is certainly plausible, yes. | 16:10 |
| yvl | that's what I needed to know, thanks :) | 16:11 |
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| th1a | ok thanks yvl. | 16:12 |
| th1a | replaceafill has a backlog of client work now... | 16:12 |
| replaceafill | :) | 16:12 |
| th1a | Someday these people may pay us... | 16:13 |
| replaceafill | someday! | 16:13 |
| replaceafill | ok, th1a, i guess we're going to look at those views together? | 16:14 |
| th1a | Which? | 16:14 |
| replaceafill | autism | 16:14 |
| th1a | Yes. | 16:15 |
| th1a | What about the student detail report? | 16:15 |
| replaceafill | oh, that's done | 16:15 |
| replaceafill | and merged | 16:15 |
| th1a | OK, send me a copy of a report so I can see it. | 16:16 |
| replaceafill | ok | 16:16 |
| replaceafill | i used the same table format of the absences by day report | 16:16 |
| replaceafill | hold on, let me generate one | 16:16 |
| replaceafill | th1a, sent | 16:19 |
| replaceafill | i added a lot of columns to the grid btw | 16:19 |
| replaceafill | to see how the widths and splitting reacted | 16:19 |
| replaceafill | doesn't look too bad imho | 16:20 |
| th1a | We should just tone down the header a bit. | 16:20 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 16:21 |
| th1a | I forwarded a copy to yvl. | 16:21 |
| th1a | The gradebook grid looks pretty good now yvl. | 16:21 |
| replaceafill | oh, sorry i didn't cc yvl | 16:21 |
| th1a | Do you want to talk abou this a bit after the meeting? | 16:22 |
| th1a | And start on the Autism? | 16:22 |
| replaceafill | getting autism to work will take a little | 16:22 |
| replaceafill | i need to get the right branches with the right revisions | 16:23 |
| replaceafill | but yes, we can start after the meeting | 16:23 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:23 |
| replaceafill | btw, i was able to reproduce this: | 16:24 |
| replaceafill | https://bugs.launchpad.net/schooltool.gradebook/+bug/1065381 | 16:24 |
| replaceafill | not sure if it's the right way to reproduce though | 16:24 |
| replaceafill | it happens when you add grid items and you delete the term | 16:24 |
| replaceafill | and you visit the layout view again | 16:24 |
| th1a | Ah. | 16:24 |
| replaceafill | since the view tries to get the term to show the title in the grid items | 16:24 |
| replaceafill | so i was thinking, in that case the view should show, TERM MISSING or something? | 16:25 |
| replaceafill | the term is used like this: | 16:25 |
| replaceafill | S1 - Report Sheet A - A [pencil] | 16:26 |
| replaceafill | term title - report sheet title - activity title | 16:26 |
| replaceafill | since you can't delete deployed sheets (and activities) the other two are safe | 16:26 |
| th1a | Uh... | 16:27 |
| th1a | Used for what? | 16:27 |
| replaceafill | in the grid columns table | 16:28 |
| replaceafill | http://dev.schooltool.org:7080/report_card_layout | 16:28 |
| replaceafill | manager:schooltool | 16:28 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:28 |
| th1a | I looked in the book. ;-) | 16:28 |
| th1a | OK... | 16:28 |
| replaceafill | :D | 16:29 |
| th1a | If the term is deleted, just delete the column? | 16:29 |
| replaceafill | with an event subscriber? | 16:29 |
| th1a | Well, I guess? | 16:30 |
| replaceafill | kk | 16:30 |
| th1a | I mean, there's a hackier way to do it, of course. | 16:30 |
| replaceafill | and the view for deleting terms has a huge warning anyway ;) | 16:30 |
| th1a | if term not found, just delete this column | 16:30 |
| replaceafill | i'd use the subscriber | 16:31 |
| th1a | Hopefully it doesn't take a day and a half to code. | 16:31 |
| th1a | OK! | 16:31 |
| th1a | Anything else, replaceafill? | 16:31 |
| replaceafill | 1.25 day :P | 16:31 |
| replaceafill | yes | 16:31 |
| replaceafill | hold on | 16:31 |
| replaceafill | let me get my notes | 16:31 |
| replaceafill | i reviewed some bugs | 16:32 |
| replaceafill | i wanted to ask menesis how to mark them correctly | 16:32 |
| replaceafill | https://bugs.launchpad.net/schooltool.gradebook/+bug/1154209 | 16:32 |
| replaceafill | that's done | 16:32 |
| replaceafill | i guess i'll just change the status for now to fix committed | 16:32 |
| replaceafill | and about this: | 16:33 |
| replaceafill | https://bugs.launchpad.net/schooltool.cando/+bug/1154706 | 16:33 |
| replaceafill | the sort order part is done | 16:33 |
| replaceafill | but the clean up for the table header is not | 16:33 |
| replaceafill | i suggested using the same layout we use for cando | 16:34 |
| replaceafill | but the gradebook has comments | 16:34 |
| replaceafill | and i'm not sure how should we handle that | 16:34 |
| th1a | If you send me a screenshot I'll let you know. | 16:34 |
| th1a | Is menesis here? | 16:34 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 16:34 |
| menesis | th1a: yes | 16:35 |
| replaceafill | menesis, is marking the bugs as fix committed good enough? | 16:35 |
| replaceafill | or should i set milestones on them? | 16:35 |
| * replaceafill doesn't understand milestones very well :( | 16:36 | |
| menesis | this was fixed long ago? | 16:36 |
| replaceafill | no, recently | 16:36 |
| menesis | ok, so set to Fix Committed | 16:36 |
| replaceafill | but we coded a new report | 16:36 |
| replaceafill | it's not like there's a specific revision with the fix | 16:36 |
| replaceafill | ok | 16:37 |
| replaceafill | and the last thing on my notes: tests | 16:37 |
| menesis | I will fill in milestones when I see an email that status was changed | 16:37 |
| replaceafill | menesis, ah ok | 16:37 |
| menesis | or when I write release notes | 16:37 |
| replaceafill | th1a, i guess it's not the time for fixing tests yet, right? | 16:38 |
| replaceafill | autism is first | 16:38 |
| th1a | right | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | kk | 16:39 |
| * replaceafill done | 16:39 | |
| menesis | what tests, replaceafill ? | 16:39 |
| th1a | Thanks replaceafill. | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | menesis, gradebook's | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | i get 18 failures, ftests and stests | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | selenium extension for scoring is broken in some cases by autocomplete for example | 16:40 |
| menesis | I have been fixing stests broken by name column changes | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | and the extension to print the worksheet needs to be updated, to include first name, last name columns | 16:41 |
| menesis | I have done that | 16:42 |
| menesis | fixed the selenium extension | 16:42 |
| menesis | well, in progress | 16:42 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 16:42 |
| th1a | replaceafill: You're also going to have to check on the NIEPA instance at some point here. | 16:43 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 16:44 |
| th1a | I can never tell whether David Ally is serious. | 16:44 |
| replaceafill | :) | 16:44 |
| th1a | OK go ahead menesis. | 16:45 |
| menesis | I have renamed to Default Manager | 16:46 |
| menesis | fixed tests/ftests | 16:46 |
| menesis | also ran selenium tests and saw that some were broken | 16:48 |
| menesis | by name/column order changes | 16:48 |
| menesis | was fixing them today | 16:48 |
| menesis | also reviewed what has been done for this release, updated CHANGES | 16:49 |
| menesis | both still in progress | 16:50 |
| menesis | haven't looked at translations yet | 16:51 |
| th1a | I guess the question is do you want to "offically" release this on Monday. | 16:51 |
| th1a | I hate the end of week releases. | 16:51 |
| menesis | I usually target releases for Thursday | 16:52 |
| menesis | next Thursday is the final freeze | 16:52 |
| th1a | OK, so Thursday should be comfortable for you? | 16:53 |
| menesis | but yes the issues that were raised on Monday were all resolved yesterday | 16:53 |
| menesis | Thursday is tomorrow | 16:54 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:55 |
| menesis | and I will be working on the release | 16:55 |
| th1a | Maybe push it to the PPA on Monday. | 16:55 |
| th1a | PPA's. | 16:55 |
| menesis | and universe | 16:56 |
| th1a | I just was thinking getting it in universe is the only thing were earlier is better, and no real production users are conceivably going to have problems. | 16:57 |
| menesis | so you want me to push 2.6.0 on Monday? | 16:57 |
| th1a | So saucy universe > thursday; PPA's Monday. | 16:57 |
| menesis | ok | 16:57 |
| th1a | Or is that crazy for some reason? | 16:57 |
| menesis | that's reasonable | 16:57 |
| th1a | OK, cool. | 16:58 |
| th1a | yvl are you going to look at the journal bug tomorrow? | 16:59 |
| th1a | I don't know if it might be practical to slip that in. | 16:59 |
| menesis | yes any bugfixes are welcome | 17:00 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:00 |
| th1a | Hopefully that's easy. I wonder if it is a timezone thing. | 17:01 |
| menesis | but I am not waiting for anything now | 17:01 |
| th1a | OK, anything else menesis? | 17:01 |
| yvl | th1a, yes, sure | 17:02 |
| yvl | early morning tomorrow | 17:02 |
| menesis | should I simply rename http://book.schooltool.org/2.5-release-notes.html to 2.6? | 17:02 |
| th1a | thanks yvl. | 17:02 |
| th1a | Oh, yes, I need to check in my revisions. | 17:03 |
| th1a | I was thinking this needs to just be a separate version of the book. | 17:03 |
| th1a | That is, we'll probably need to keep both on the web, with the new one as the default. | 17:04 |
| menesis | oh | 17:04 |
| menesis | yes, probably | 17:04 |
| th1a | I was confused about where to push it at https://code.launchpad.net/schooltool-book | 17:04 |
| menesis | there is only one branch, trunk | 17:05 |
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| th1a | Yeah... can I make another? | 17:06 |
| menesis | of course | 17:06 |
| menesis | but trunk is the current book | 17:07 |
| th1a | I ended up spending too long this morning trying to get a new key set up on Launchpad because I forgot to bring my old one. | 17:07 |
| th1a | Anyhow, I don't know if I don't have permission or they changed the ui or what but I don't see how to push a new branch to LP. | 17:08 |
| menesis | bzr push -r 307 lp:~schooltool-owners/schooltool-book/2.4 | 17:09 |
| menesis | to create a branch for the older version of the book | 17:10 |
| menesis | and push your new work to trunk | 17:10 |
| menesis | you simply push a branch and it appears on launchpad | 17:11 |
| th1a | OK, why don't you create the new branch then and I'll push to trunk. | 17:11 |
| menesis | ok I'll take care of that | 17:12 |
| menesis | you found where to add the ssh key? | 17:13 |
| th1a | Yeah. My problem was the encrypted confirmation email in GMail. | 17:13 |
| th1a | I've just copy/pasted it into a text file and should be able to finish it with regular gpg command line. | 17:14 |
| menesis | hmm. to push you only need a ssh key | 17:15 |
| menesis | https://launchpad.net/~/+editsshkeys | 17:15 |
| th1a | OK, I'll get it sorted. | 17:15 |
| th1a | That's my problem. | 17:15 |
| menesis | I only plan to add 2.6.0 changelogs to the book | 17:16 |
| menesis | so that will be easy to merge | 17:16 |
| menesis | and that's after I've done the releases, on Friday | 17:17 |
| menesis | OK so we agreed on everything | 17:17 |
| th1a | Yep. | 17:17 |
| menesis | let's do it | 17:18 |
| sumit | hello all, I am looking for some documentation/guidance in installing schooltool in a centos 6 server. Can anyone help on this ? | 17:18 |
| th1a | hi sumit. | 17:18 |
| th1a | OK, thanks guys. | 17:19 |
| th1a | Have a good week/end. | 17:19 |
| * th1a drops the bag of gravel. | 17:19 | |
| th1a | Hi sumit. | 17:19 |
| yvl | thanks | 17:19 |
| sumit | hi thla | 17:19 |
| th1a | We had .rpm packages for a while thanks to a third-party contributor, but they are now very out of date. | 17:19 |
| th1a | Why do you need to use centos, sumit? | 17:20 |
| sumit | I am trying to use it with schoolserver xs version 0.7, which is based on fc 15 and centos 6 | 17:23 |
| th1a | Ah, right. | 17:24 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:24 |
| th1a | replaceafill? | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | ready | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | dev.schooltool.org:7080/persons/camila/student_detail.pdf | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | dev.schooltool.org:7080/schoolyears/2013/absences_by_day.pdf?day=2013-01-01 | 17:24 |
| th1a | Who is Jeff working with on XS server? | 17:25 |
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| replaceafill | Anish? | 17:27 |
| th1a | Ah, now we lost sumit. | 17:27 |
| th1a | Well, if he comes back we'll have to figure out who he is. | 17:27 |
| th1a | OK, "Period Number" can just be "Period" | 17:29 |
| th1a | Or maybe it can go away? | 17:29 |
| th1a | Or move into the same line as the periods? | 17:29 |
| th1a | Just making that row go away is probably sufficient. | 17:30 |
| replaceafill | ok, let me try doing that | 17:30 |
| * replaceafill is concurrently setting up the autism instance ;) | 17:30 | |
| replaceafill | th1a, reload | 17:33 |
| th1a | We need some space under "Attendance Detail" and it probably doesn't need to be that bold. | 17:34 |
| replaceafill | that's using the same header for the report card comments | 17:35 |
| replaceafill | a sec, setting some comments | 17:35 |
| replaceafill | dev.schooltool.org:7080/persons/camila/report_card.pdf | 17:38 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:38 |
| replaceafill | adding more space under attendance detail | 17:38 |
| th1a | We probably don't need bold in the comments either. | 17:39 |
| replaceafill | kk | 17:39 |
| replaceafill | reload them all :) | 17:41 |
| th1a | I think that's fine. | 17:44 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:44 |
| th1a | Do you like it better now? | 17:44 |
| replaceafill | yes | 17:44 |
| replaceafill | that gray was too much | 17:44 |
| replaceafill | (in the header) | 17:44 |
| th1a | OK, cool. | 17:45 |
| replaceafill | pushed | 17:48 |
| replaceafill | ok, autism? | 17:48 |
| replaceafill | instance is running | 17:48 |
| replaceafill | at | 17:48 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:48 |
| replaceafill | http://dev.schooltool.org:6060 | 17:48 |
| replaceafill | manager:schooltool | 17:48 |
| replaceafill | let me get steven's user | 17:49 |
| replaceafill | steven.celmer:schooltool | 17:49 |
| th1a | OK so at this point we have the score(social skills) option? | 17:51 |
| th1a | And then some reports? | 17:52 |
| th1a | that's their custom code? | 17:52 |
| replaceafill | yes, basically | 17:52 |
| th1a | They don't have a gradebook view though. | 17:52 |
| replaceafill | gradebook view? | 17:53 |
| th1a | It is just the per-student scoring view. | 17:54 |
| replaceafill | yes | 17:54 |
| th1a | OK, so we need to get that working with multiple score systems. | 17:55 |
| th1a | And give it a new name. | 17:55 |
| replaceafill | but this is the part i don't understand | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | this score student view | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | knows about 1:1, S, N and G | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | the columns you grade | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | and it works because of the way we've set up the skills | 17:57 |
| th1a | What am I supposed to be looking at? | 17:57 |
| replaceafill | http://dev.schooltool.org:6060/schoolyears/2012-2013/MP2/sections/1/skills/course-0.group-0.skillset-0/gradebook/1000165/socialskills_score.html | 17:57 |
| replaceafill | nancy.caruso:schooltool | 17:57 |
| th1a | Right... but what are those things? | 17:58 |
| th1a | Skills? | 17:58 |
| replaceafill | yes | 17:58 |
| replaceafill | and the rows are skillsets | 17:58 |
| th1a | So... just generically you have each row a skillset, and each column a skill. | 17:58 |
| th1a | The problem is we have to label each cell, right? | 17:59 |
| th1a | I was thinking of trying to do that in gray when the cell is empty. | 18:00 |
| th1a | Just put the skill label in the cell in gray. | 18:00 |
| replaceafill | hold on th1a i'm catching up with the parts here | 18:01 |
| replaceafill | so | 18:01 |
| replaceafill | the grouping is done by node | 18:01 |
| replaceafill | we get all the nodes that contain the same skillsets assigned to the section | 18:04 |
| replaceafill | ok | 18:04 |
| replaceafill | i understand the row = skillset, column = skill | 18:04 |
| replaceafill | but i don't understand the grouping part | 18:04 |
| th1a | Oh... you mean how can we assume it? | 18:05 |
| replaceafill | correct | 18:05 |
| th1a | What are the nodes now? | 18:06 |
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| replaceafill_ | sorry th1a i was disconnected | 18:07 |
| th1a | np | 18:07 |
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| th1a | What are the nodes now? | 18:07 |
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| replaceafill | they are 9 groups they grade | 18:08 |
| replaceafill | for each course | 18:08 |
| th1a | Yeah but internally? | 18:08 |
| replaceafill | nodes? | 18:09 |
| replaceafill | http://dev.schooltool.org:6060/nodes | 18:09 |
| replaceafill | associated with the group layer | 18:09 |
| th1a | OK... | 18:10 |
| th1a | Maybe another approach. | 18:10 |
| replaceafill | in my head, the skills layout is too specific for autism | 18:11 |
| th1a | Let me think about it. | 18:11 |
| replaceafill | sure | 18:11 |
| th1a | Well, it might have to be specifically configured by the admin. | 18:11 |
| th1a | You still just have to try to upgrade it, right? | 18:11 |
| replaceafill | yes | 18:11 |
| replaceafill | first thing imho is | 18:12 |
| replaceafill | the bug about grading every term independently | 18:12 |
| replaceafill | that's supposed to be fixed by evolution | 18:12 |
| replaceafill | copying the skills to each section, etc | 18:12 |
| replaceafill | i can start with that | 18:12 |
| replaceafill | Summary Form on the left of the grading view is the only report we have | 18:13 |
| th1a | Maybe we can just do a more general version of the report. | 18:14 |
| th1a | Esp. since there is the opportunity to have some controls there. | 18:15 |
| replaceafill | filters? | 18:15 |
| th1a | Set which nodes are used to group, etc. | 18:15 |
| replaceafill | ah | 18:15 |
| replaceafill | ok, when do you want us to meet again? | 18:16 |
| replaceafill | i need to go to class | 18:16 |
| replaceafill | tomorrow, meeting time? later today? | 18:16 |
| th1a | Tomorrow meeting time is good. | 18:17 |
| replaceafill | kk, that will give me time to update | 18:17 |
| replaceafill | see you tomorrow th1a | 18:17 |
| th1a | Thanks replaceafill. | 18:17 |
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