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| replaceafill | ah crap! this is the gradebook sidebar story again :'( | 00:59 |
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| replaceafill | th1a, zyt? | 03:00 |
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| replaceafill | hey th1a | 16:45 |
| th1a | hey | 16:46 |
| replaceafill | we need a link to get to the report ;) | 16:46 |
| replaceafill | also | 16:46 |
| replaceafill | are we keeping the old "Section Report"? | 16:46 |
| replaceafill | or should i get rid of all of that | 16:47 |
| th1a | I think it may become a text only report. | 16:47 |
| th1a | I mean, a printed only report. | 16:47 |
| replaceafill | ah | 16:47 |
| th1a | It is already only text ;-) | 16:47 |
| replaceafill | i suppose the new one will go under Reports in the gradebook, right? | 16:48 |
| replaceafill | "Section Report By Student"? | 16:49 |
| replaceafill | skill attainment something something :) | 16:49 |
| th1a | Probably Section Summary leading to the new report... | 16:52 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 16:52 |
| th1a | Maybe something like Section Statistics for the printed one. | 16:52 |
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| replaceafill | ok, i'll put a link in the gradebook | 16:54 |
| replaceafill | ah and i'll change the report title too | 16:55 |
| th1a | Changing the colors in the actual bars is just a matter of changing the darkest color in the interpolation, right? | 16:55 |
| replaceafill | yes | 16:56 |
| replaceafill | that still in JS, i'd like to move that to the python side | 16:56 |
| th1a | We should try a few different combinations when it is a good time. | 16:56 |
| replaceafill | so people don't need to edit JS to change it | 16:56 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 16:56 |
| th1a | That is, maybe the bar should be, say orange/purple instead of gray/green. | 16:57 |
| th1a | We may want to use green differently. | 16:57 |
| replaceafill | also we haven't checked the "By Skill" one too much | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | it's pretty the same logic | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | *much | 16:59 |
| th1a | Basically, we're fine tuning the design that is going to be used on a bunch of charts. | 16:59 |
| th1a | Once we get this one down the rest should just follow. | 17:00 |
| replaceafill | agree | 17:00 |
| replaceafill | we definitely need to be able to sort reportLink directives! | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | i'm using names like "a_section_summary" just to get the report link to the top :/ | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | th1a, description for the Section Summary report? | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | it's used in the Reports Overview page | 17:04 |
| th1a | A graphic overview of student achievement of competencies within the section. | 17:06 |
| th1a | skills, I mean. | 17:06 |
| replaceafill | kk | 17:06 |
| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135:6660/schoolyears/2012-2013/SY/sections/13106-45-1-1/gradebook-skills | 17:10 |
| replaceafill | Section Summary link in place | 17:10 |
| replaceafill | ok, initial version of the report merged to trunk | 17:19 |
| replaceafill | i'll go get breakfast | 17:20 |
| replaceafill | i have a meeting with jelkner in 40 mins to discuss pyquiz planning | 17:21 |
| th1a | kk | 17:25 |
| replaceafill | th1a, are we doing something for the autism center this week? | 17:26 |
| th1a | Ah... we should work on that tomorrow. | 17:26 |
| th1a | I think the meeting is Friday. | 17:26 |
| th1a | Thursday | 17:26 |
| th1a | I mean. | 17:27 |
| replaceafill | i thought it was Thursday | 17:27 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:27 |
| replaceafill | yes | 17:27 |
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| jelkner | th1a, are you here? | 17:49 |
| th1a | Yes jelkner. | 17:49 |
| jelkner | Any chance I could visit you this Friday? | 17:49 |
| th1a | In person? | 17:49 |
| jelkner | Yup | 17:49 |
| th1a | Sure. What brings you up this way? | 17:49 |
| jelkner | I'm at Flint's in Vermont for the week | 17:49 |
| th1a | Ah! Say 'hi' for me. | 17:50 |
| th1a | Are you driving back? | 17:50 |
| jelkner | I pick up my sister-in-law at 9:44 pm this Friday at the Hartford airport | 17:50 |
| jelkner | yes | 17:50 |
| th1a | OK. That'll work. | 17:50 |
| jelkner | Flint leaves for work at 7 am | 17:50 |
| jelkner | I could head straight to Providence then | 17:50 |
| jelkner | cool | 17:51 |
| jelkner | i'll plan the route and email you the specifics | 17:51 |
| jelkner | in addition to just seeing your place, i've got a bunch of stuff i'd like to talk about | 17:52 |
| jelkner | including pycon next year and our fall pilot | 17:52 |
| th1a | OK, yes, we have a lot to discuss. | 17:52 |
| jelkner | cool | 17:52 |
| jelkner | looking forward to seeing you on friday! | 17:52 |
| th1a | Yep, me too. | 17:53 |
| * th1a will have to clean his office... | 17:54 | |
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| replaceafill | th1a, the chart report experiment has given me the solution to have true ajaxy tabs in the gradebook now :) | 18:56 |
| replaceafill | i mean, some day ;) | 18:56 |
| th1a | Ah, how? | 18:57 |
| replaceafill | same way we refresh several forms in the same page | 18:58 |
| replaceafill | we refresh the table and the colors help | 18:58 |
| replaceafill | at the same time | 18:58 |
| replaceafill | well the colors refresh faster ofc ;) | 18:58 |
| replaceafill | in the gradebook when you click a tab or select from the dropdown, you refresh the grades table and the sidebar options the same way | 18:59 |
| replaceafill | i failed doing that last time | 18:59 |
| replaceafill | i know how to do it now :) | 18:59 |
| th1a | Ah. | 19:00 |
| th1a | Let me know when it is a good time to do some color fiddling. | 19:00 |
| replaceafill | we can do it know | 19:00 |
| replaceafill | now* | 19:00 |
| th1a | OK. | 19:00 |
| th1a | First make the 80 highlight color this: A6DCC4 | 19:01 |
| th1a | Make the below passing base color: #F68E4D | 19:01 |
| th1a | and the passing base color #6B3A89 | 19:02 |
| replaceafill | this css file could use some comments | 19:02 |
| * replaceafill adds some | 19:02 | |
| replaceafill | remember, we use four colors for passing/below passing | 19:04 |
| replaceafill | green -> dark green, gray -> dark gray | 19:04 |
| th1a | Ah, yes. | 19:05 |
| th1a | Let's start with the secondary versions vinny had. | 19:05 |
| th1a | purple #B199C2 | 19:05 |
| th1a | orange (below) #FCD6C5 | 19:06 |
| replaceafill | kk | 19:06 |
| replaceafill | reload | 19:08 |
| th1a | You flipped the colors above/below | 19:11 |
| th1a | Purple should be passing. | 19:11 |
| replaceafill | oops, sorry | 19:11 |
| replaceafill | fixing... | 19:11 |
| th1a | Also, can you make the +80 highlight green | 19:11 |
| th1a | A6DCC4 the range | 19:11 |
| th1a | That is. | 19:11 |
| th1a | We don't have good terminology for that. | 19:12 |
| th1a | Not the gradient. | 19:12 |
| replaceafill | ah | 19:12 |
| replaceafill | let's use the one in the help ;) | 19:12 |
| replaceafill | you didn't mean "meets target" you meant "% passing target" :D | 19:13 |
| th1a | I'm not worried about the gradient. | 19:13 |
| th1a | yes. | 19:13 |
| replaceafill | reload | 19:14 |
| th1a | I think the purple/orange works pretty well. | 19:16 |
| replaceafill | i like we got rid of the gray | 19:16 |
| replaceafill | one thing we didn't put back is the number of skills | 19:17 |
| th1a | Make the % range D2EBE0 | 19:17 |
| replaceafill | reload | 19:18 |
| th1a | Ah, good. | 19:19 |
| th1a | I think that looks right now. The range has just the right amount of presence. | 19:20 |
| th1a | What do you think of purple and orange, culturally. | 19:23 |
| replaceafill | :| | 19:24 |
| th1a | ? | 19:24 |
| th1a | As an El Salvadoran male. | 19:24 |
| th1a | Of a certain age. | 19:24 |
| * replaceafill thinks... | 19:24 | |
| replaceafill | 33 :D | 19:24 |
| replaceafill | my only thought about them is that purple is my mom's favorite color | 19:25 |
| replaceafill | :D | 19:25 |
| th1a | Basically you don't want to overdo green=good, red=bad (yellow=warning) too much. | 19:25 |
| replaceafill | and gray was kind of sad :) | 19:25 |
| th1a | And you also don't want to limit your visual language too much. | 19:25 |
| th1a | orange also implies warning, but less like a traffic light. | 19:26 |
| th1a | Purple generally has positive connotations. | 19:26 |
| replaceafill | :| | 19:26 |
| * replaceafill sees th1a does have a cultural opinion on those | 19:26 | |
| th1a | But it also lets us use a wider range of colors. | 19:26 |
| th1a | So... purple is positive but the green highlights are more strongly YES PASSING. | 19:27 |
| th1a | Red, yellow and green can be used more for commentary than just presenting data, essentially. | 19:27 |
| th1a | Also, we can't use too much green because of the overall color scheme. | 19:28 |
| th1a | And blue is pretty much neutral. | 19:28 |
| th1a | Just "different than gray." | 19:28 |
| replaceafill | i like how the Score Colors help looks now | 19:29 |
| replaceafill | very alive :) | 19:29 |
| th1a | I want to see if we can make the ranges a little wider. | 19:29 |
| th1a | make #FAE5DC the lightest orange. | 19:30 |
| replaceafill | reload | 19:31 |
| th1a | make #D1C4DA the lightest purple | 19:34 |
| replaceafill | reload | 19:36 |
| replaceafill | i just found a bug! | 19:36 |
| replaceafill | i think | 19:36 |
| replaceafill | No evidence doesn't give you all the data | 19:36 |
| th1a | I was wondering about that. | 19:37 |
| th1a | It is a score? | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | yes | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | i wonder if it's related to its value "0" | 19:37 |
| th1a | "0" essentially? | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | i'll check | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | testing time | 19:38 |
| replaceafill | i'll test this: http://blog.launchpad.net/general/a-tale-of-two-travesties | 19:41 |
| replaceafill | to have IE working without Windows | 19:41 |
| th1a | Better roll the orange back to #FCD6C5 | 19:46 |
| replaceafill | rolling back | 19:46 |
| replaceafill | that was the light one, right? | 19:46 |
| replaceafill | ah yes | 19:47 |
| replaceafill | done | 19:47 |
| th1a | Could we just put a section accordion or something expandable at the top. | 19:47 |
| th1a | So it doesn't take up space unless you're curious. | 19:47 |
| replaceafill | hhmm, it should be collapsed at the beginning, right? | 19:48 |
| replaceafill | ok, let me try that | 19:48 |
| th1a | Yes. | 19:48 |
| replaceafill | Course Details? | 19:50 |
| replaceafill | for the accordion title | 19:50 |
| th1a | Sure. | 19:50 |
| replaceafill | Course Information? | 19:50 |
| replaceafill | ok | 19:50 |
| replaceafill | th1a, reload | 19:59 |
| th1a | Can we add a skills slider too. | 20:01 |
| th1a | With total skills and... | 20:02 |
| replaceafill | you mean accordion? | 20:02 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 20:02 |
| th1a | Yeah. | 20:02 |
| th1a | Probably we already have a skills widget for that anyhow? | 20:02 |
| replaceafill | hhm good question | 20:04 |
| replaceafill | i don't see any | 20:04 |
| replaceafill | do you remember where? | 20:05 |
| th1a | I was just hoping. | 20:06 |
| replaceafill | i don't think we do | 20:06 |
| th1a | We could just jam the skills number in with the course stuff then. | 20:07 |
| th1a | Just change it to "details." ;-) | 20:07 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 20:07 |
| replaceafill | kk | 20:07 |
| replaceafill | done | 20:11 |
| th1a | OK, that'll do for now. | 20:11 |
| th1a | Now that it is there we can add more stuff. | 20:11 |
| th1a | That is as necessary if people ask for it. | 20:14 |
| th1a | OK, that's all I've got for now. | 20:14 |
| th1a | You can work on moving things around, testing, etc. | 20:14 |
| replaceafill | kk | 20:15 |
| replaceafill | ah | 20:15 |
| replaceafill | should i move it to schooltool.cando? | 20:15 |
| replaceafill | i think this is generic enough :) | 20:15 |
| replaceafill | imho just the Note: viewlet should remain in schooltool.virginia | 20:16 |
| th1a | Yes. | 20:17 |
| th1a | Yes. | 20:17 |
| replaceafill | kk | 20:17 |
| replaceafill | will do | 20:17 |
| replaceafill | so, autism tomorrow, right? | 20:17 |
| th1a | Yes. | 20:18 |
| replaceafill | kk, thanks th1a | 20:18 |
| th1a | Thank you replaceafill. | 20:18 |
| jelkner | aelkner, are you here? | 20:41 |
| aelkner | jelkner, yes? | 20:42 |
| jelkner | can you call me at flints? | 20:42 |
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| aelkner | th1a, ayt? | 21:57 |
| th1a | hi aelkner. | 21:57 |
| aelkner | trying to call you on google chat | 21:58 |
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