| *** alga has quit IRC | 02:45 | |
| *** aks has joined #schooltool | 06:15 | |
| *** aks has joined #schooltool | 06:15 | |
| *** aks has quit IRC | 09:16 | |
| *** aks has joined #schooltool | 09:33 | |
| *** alga has joined #schooltool | 09:37 | |
| *** yvl has quit IRC | 10:10 | |
| *** yvl has joined #schooltool | 10:22 | |
| *** aks has quit IRC | 14:20 | |
| *** menesis has joined #schooltool | 14:31 | |
| *** alga has quit IRC | 15:40 | |
| *** ignas has joined #schooltool | 16:09 | |
| *** th1a has joined #schooltool | 16:20 | |
| th1a | hi yvl, menesis, aelkner. | 16:31 |
|---|---|---|
| * th1a is a little flustered this morning. | 16:31 | |
| yvl | good morning | 16:31 |
| aelkner | morning | 16:31 |
| *** alga has joined #schooltool | 16:31 | |
| th1a | I knocked a big bottle of mouthwash and a full bottle of fabric softener off a high shelf in the bathroom, spilling both. | 16:31 |
| th1a | So I just cleaned that up... | 16:32 |
| aelkner | so you smell minty, bouncy fresh now? | 16:32 |
| th1a | Pretty much. | 16:33 |
| th1a | So... what did you guys think of Vinny's wireframe? | 16:34 |
| yvl | well, a good point about scrollbar not useful at the bottom | 16:35 |
| yvl | and that dates make sence there | 16:35 |
| yvl | btw, I took a shot at making ST blue and restyling a-la-Schwa | 16:36 |
| yvl | https://code.launchpad.net/~justas-pov/schooltool/flourish-schwa-1 | 16:36 |
| aelkner | i'm not sure aout the subnav going on the same line as the breadcrumbs | 16:36 |
| yvl | aelkner, if you could run that somewhere, it would be great ;) | 16:36 |
| th1a | We may have to wait for replaceafill... | 16:37 |
| yvl | :) | 16:37 |
| aelkner | where is he today? | 16:37 |
| th1a | I'm sure he's just running late or he would have sent an email. | 16:37 |
| th1a | Well, either that or something's REALLY wrong. | 16:38 |
| yvl | (oh, and a good point about showing type of activity in gradebook) | 16:38 |
| aelkner | overslept perhaps? | 16:38 |
| yvl | (as in - Rocketry/Lab, Rocketry/Exam) | 16:38 |
| th1a | Hung over? | 16:38 |
| aelkner | did he have some virtual beer with you last night like at a sprint? | 16:38 |
| th1a | What do you think of the color? | 16:39 |
| yvl | it lacks contrast for me | 16:40 |
| aelkner | well, blue is my favorite color, so i can't object | 16:40 |
| th1a | I don't think it is dark enough for the link color. | 16:40 |
| yvl | I do like blue, but... it is somewhat of a dreamy colour | 16:40 |
| aelkner | but i get used to colors pretty quickly, so i was already used to how flourish looks | 16:40 |
| yvl | not sure if firendly/dreamy thing is... best here. | 16:41 |
| aelkner | it's an interesting question, looking professional vrs what the Critical people said | 16:41 |
| aelkner | they thought the old skin was too professional looking! | 16:41 |
| th1a | I've always liked the red, but it has some practical and symbolic problems. | 16:41 |
| aelkner | yes, the Critial folks said red was alarming to the user | 16:42 |
| aelkner | and for some reason they preferred green, yuck! | 16:43 |
| * yvl also likes the red | 16:43 | |
| th1a | In terms of getting rid of the red, it is one of the main functions of a paid consultant -- you need to pay someone to tell you what you already know. | 16:43 |
| yvl | right | 16:43 |
| yvl | just not this disaster | 16:43 |
| th1a | This teal disaster? | 16:44 |
| yvl | yes | 16:44 |
| yvl | but I'm no expert, so probably just can't see something obvious | 16:44 |
| yvl | I also somewhat doubt the point of putting login at the top | 16:45 |
| th1a | Yeah, we don't have to go along with that stuff. | 16:45 |
| yvl | oh, one more thing | 16:45 |
| yvl | once Douglas puts my branch up | 16:46 |
| yvl | you can click on schooltool logo to change style of the "header" bar | 16:46 |
| th1a | I mean, I only asked for colors and a gradebook grid, so it is no big deal to disregard as much of this as we want. | 16:46 |
| yvl | it's a hack, so has glitches | 16:46 |
| th1a | yvl: That's all I'd want. | 16:46 |
| yvl | umm | 16:46 |
| yvl | not that good | 16:47 |
| yvl | just changes logo/brand at the left, logo/brand at the right | 16:47 |
| aelkner | yvl, i don't understand, how come you can't set up a branch yourself? | 16:48 |
| aelkner | don't you have an account on the demo server? | 16:48 |
| yvl | nope | 16:48 |
| yvl | never had one | 16:48 |
| yvl | I've no idea what's there | 16:48 |
| aelkner | what would you want your user id to be? | 16:49 |
| yvl | yvl? | 16:49 |
| aelkner | let me try to adduser for you | 16:49 |
| th1a | I think I prefer the tabs at the left because they really should be more prominent than the name. | 16:50 |
| * yvl too, th1a | 16:50 | |
| th1a | I do think we have a bit of an issue with the current tertiary navigation in reference to the gradebook grid. They just need a little more separation somehow, although not necessarily actual white space. | 16:51 |
| aelkner | i just create an account for yvl and private chatted him the details | 16:52 |
| yvl | thanks | 16:53 |
| yvl | it will take some time to take a look around what's there | 16:53 |
| yvl | true, th1a | 16:54 |
| aelkner | you should look at my account and make sure to use a different port number, just 10 off from mine would be fine | 16:55 |
| th1a | Here's the problem: | 16:55 |
| th1a | Red=danger | 16:55 |
| th1a | Orange=Ubuntu | 16:55 |
| th1a | Purple=Canonical | 16:55 |
| th1a | Green=Critical Links | 16:55 |
| th1a | Blue=Windows | 16:55 |
| th1a | I guess I've never given much thought to Red=Red Hat, but that too. | 16:56 |
| th1a | Green=SuSE | 16:56 |
| aelkner | SuSE, what's that? | 16:57 |
| th1a | A Linux distro. | 16:57 |
| aelkner | well, it's not like colors are OWNED by those things | 16:58 |
| aelkner | we should choose whatever looks best | 16:58 |
| yvl | Dark Yellow + Khaki? :) | 16:58 |
| th1a | Of course, but they're all kind of related. | 16:58 |
| th1a | It is like choosing a uniform that is different than the rest in your division. | 16:58 |
| aelkner | brb | 16:59 |
| th1a | In that respect, I don't think teal is so bad. | 16:59 |
| yvl | true | 17:00 |
| yvl | (btw, what about Ruby Red?) | 17:00 |
| th1a | Like? | 17:01 |
| yvl | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ruby_gem.JPG | 17:01 |
| yvl | or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ruby_cristal.jpg | 17:01 |
| th1a | Purplish red? | 17:01 |
| yvl | yes | 17:01 |
| yvl | but that's just a random suggestion | 17:02 |
| yvl | very random | 17:02 |
| th1a | Well, it one of the two things you get when you try to move away from red, so it isn't that random. ;-) | 17:02 |
| th1a | I think it would have a lot of the same problems as teal, but look stranger. | 17:02 |
| yvl | hmm. true. | 17:04 |
| *** ignas has quit IRC | 17:05 | |
| * th1a is mulling. | 17:06 | |
| th1a | menesis: How is packaging coming? | 17:06 |
| menesis | th1a: I have finished with translations on Friday | 17:06 |
| menesis | now have to make a release from flourish branches | 17:07 |
| menesis | but I feel sick today, just slept for an hour in the office :/ | 17:07 |
| * aelkner is back | 17:07 | |
| menesis | so not done | 17:07 |
| menesis | my plan is, | 17:08 |
| menesis | merge trunk to flourish | 17:08 |
| menesis | update version to 1.9 | 17:08 |
| menesis | and make release | 17:08 |
| menesis | oh and update translation template with new strings | 17:08 |
| menesis | then making a deb is easy | 17:09 |
| th1a | OK, let's get that done ASAP. If yvl can help speed up the process, he should. | 17:09 |
| yvl | you know where to find me, menesis ;) | 17:09 |
| menesis | so not much work, but not sure how much I am able to do today | 17:09 |
| th1a | ok | 17:10 |
| * th1a googles El Salvador Holidays... | 17:10 | |
| th1a | Sept. 15 = Independence Day. | 17:11 |
| aelkner | yeah, but strange that he didn't mention it to you on Friday | 17:11 |
| th1a | Also, it is the 12th. | 17:11 |
| yvl | today is Sep 12 | 17:11 |
| aelkner | duh | 17:11 |
| th1a | lol | 17:11 |
| th1a | OK aelkner, what's your status? | 17:12 |
| aelkner | well, i need stuff to do, but let me list what i've done lately | 17:12 |
| aelkner | 1) /terms should have tertiary year tabs | 17:13 |
| aelkner | 2) added year navigation to mygrades view | 17:13 |
| aelkner | 3) removed readonly activities from GradeStudent view | 17:13 |
| aelkner | 4) added Update grades column menu item for linked activities | 17:13 |
| aelkner | and finally, | 17:13 |
| aelkner | 5) fixed Intervention tab to redirect to login on auth timeout | 17:14 |
| th1a | Can I see those? | 17:14 |
| aelkner | no :) | 17:14 |
| aelkner | seriously though, i need a couple minutes to update my instance | 17:14 |
| aelkner | forgot to do that last might | 17:14 |
| th1a | OK. back to aelkner then. | 17:14 |
| th1a | yvl? | 17:15 |
| yvl | not much | 17:15 |
| yvl | skinned experimental ST flourish teal, changed some things | 17:15 |
| yvl | will show you once the instance is built | 17:15 |
| yvl | that's that for today | 17:16 |
| yvl | as for TODOs... what should I do next? | 17:16 |
| yvl | there's a bunch of small issues that I emailed last week, so I can work on those until something more urgent comes up | 17:17 |
| th1a | I don't think there is anything urgent. | 17:17 |
| th1a | Well, not urgent enough to remember offhand. | 17:17 |
| yvl | for example, I can work on view person permissions... | 17:17 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:17 |
| aelkner | th1a, http://69.164.203.135:36660 | 17:18 |
| aelkner | is now an ok time to talk about testing? | 17:20 |
| th1a | Well, if we're running out of urgent issues... | 17:21 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:21 |
| aelkner | ok, for starters, yvl, can we break this up into two areas, old skin and new skin | 17:21 |
| th1a | aelkner, Terms needs a Done. | 17:22 |
| aelkner | first, if one simply says bin/test, is that old skin | 17:22 |
| aelkner | th1a, /terms doesn't have Done because /courses doesn't | 17:22 |
| yvl | th1a, http://69.164.203.135:38000/calendar | 17:22 |
| yvl | teal version | 17:22 |
| aelkner | in fact all of the views reached from the School tab don't have Done | 17:22 |
| aelkner | i guess you figured they can just hit School | 17:23 |
| yvl | (hmm, let me steal some Data.fs and re-start the server) | 17:23 |
| aelkner | i won't arrest you if you steal mine | 17:23 |
| aelkner | make sure you have journal, intervention and gradebook plugins though | 17:24 |
| th1a | aelkner: OK, one thing you can do is add Done to all of them. | 17:24 |
| aelkner | ok, will do | 17:24 |
| th1a | Below the Search button. | 17:25 |
| aelkner | when there is one | 17:25 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:26 |
| aelkner | could you make some breadcrumb suggestions | 17:26 |
| aelkner | i know that they are missing from the intervention views | 17:26 |
| aelkner | what would they look like in your opinion? | 17:27 |
| aelkner | the intervention tab doesn't need anything | 17:27 |
| aelkner | but what about the student search | 17:27 |
| aelkner | and then when a student view is reached | 17:28 |
| aelkner | i'm guessing whatever a student view has for breadcrumbs would provide a base | 17:28 |
| aelkner | for goals, a goal, adding or editing a goal, messages, a message, and adding a message | 17:28 |
| yvl | hmm, I think I added breadcrumbs there | 17:29 |
| yvl | so please check | 17:29 |
| aelkner | checking... | 17:29 |
| aelkner | http://69.164.203.135:36660/persons/student119/schoolyears/2008-2009/goals/3?nexturl=http://69.164.203.135:36660/persons/teacher001/intervention_tab/index.html | 17:30 |
| aelkner | there is no breadcrumb for the student view, yvl | 17:30 |
| aelkner | what do you think? | 17:30 |
| aelkner | th1a, what about you, would a student breadcrumb be right there? | 17:31 |
| th1a | I guess the main point is that the way to do it that's consistent with the rest of the app is for person interventions to go through the person. | 17:31 |
| th1a | persons > persons > whatever | 17:32 |
| yvl | oh, you should merge with trunk aelkner | 17:32 |
| * th1a sighs. | 17:32 | |
| yvl | see http://69.164.203.135:6660/schooltool.interventions/2008-2009/manager | 17:32 |
| yvl | log in as manager | 17:32 |
| yvl | merge with intervention flourish branch that is | 17:33 |
| aelkner | th1a, why do you sigh | 17:33 |
| aelkner | do you think i should merge with trunk or check that there is something new in trunk every five minutes? | 17:33 |
| yvl | apologies, I tend to forget what I did sometimes :) | 17:33 |
| aelkner | i'm not a machine | 17:33 |
| aelkner | if only we had an automated system like with a computer or something | 17:34 |
| aelkner | that automatically informed people when changes were made to trunk | 17:34 |
| yvl | with all due respect aelkner, I pushed that out more than a week ago | 17:34 |
| aelkner | i've merged since then, so... | 17:34 |
| yvl | odd | 17:35 |
| yvl | well, Douglas branch does have the breadcrumbs, so you can look there | 17:35 |
| yvl | (and check if they're reasonable | 17:36 |
| th1a | aelkner, do you want to talk about testing for a few minutes before we release the Lithuanians? | 17:36 |
| aelkner | th1a, yes, but one sec | 17:37 |
| menesis | aelkner: you can subscribe to all changes to a branch, in https://code.launchpad.net/~schooltool-owners/schooltool.intervention/flourish to the right "Subscribe yourself". but those emails may become too much | 17:37 |
| aelkner | looks like i needed to merge after all for interventions, didn't realize it | 17:37 |
| aelkner | ok, sorry for the confusion, breadcumbs look fine | 17:38 |
| aelkner | http://69.164.203.135:36660/persons/student119/schoolyears/2008-2009/goals/3?nexturl=http://69.164.203.135:36660/persons/teacher001/intervention_tab/index.html | 17:38 |
| aelkner | menesis, true, it could get spammy a bit | 17:40 |
| aelkner | th1a, anyway, i'd like to ask about test status | 17:40 |
| aelkner | first of all, running bin/test, what does that test, old skin only? | 17:40 |
| aelkner | also, how soon can we get that to pass? | 17:41 |
| aelkner | then, will we come up with a bin/test-flourish? | 17:41 |
| aelkner | yvl, menesis, thoughts? | 17:41 |
| yvl | bin/test runs existing tests, so yes, old skin only | 17:41 |
| yvl | functional tests are broken and need fixing | 17:42 |
| menesis | old tests, but they are broken | 17:42 |
| yvl | unit tests are probably not broken, or broken very little | 17:42 |
| menesis | I will fix a 'zc.datetimewidget' problem shortly | 17:42 |
| yvl | as for flourish functional tests... | 17:42 |
| menesis | but then TimetableSchema breaks lots of tests | 17:42 |
| yvl | yes | 17:42 |
| yvl | as for flourish functional tests, I want Selenium | 17:43 |
| menesis | and I don't know what changed there. | 17:43 |
| yvl | and not RC | 17:43 |
| yvl | a "proper" webdriver | 17:43 |
| aelkner | yvl, Selenium is useful for out the door integration testing, perhaps of packages | 17:43 |
| aelkner | but i think we need to stick to zope Browser for developer tests | 17:43 |
| yvl | ? | 17:43 |
| aelkner | Selenium is a click around a running instance tester, no? | 17:44 |
| yvl | well, I'm not talking about old Selenium | 17:44 |
| yvl | that was crap | 17:44 |
| yvl | well, kind of, yes | 17:44 |
| yvl | but that can be automated much more decently nowadays | 17:44 |
| aelkner | and supply things like manger.serve() | 17:45 |
| yvl | basically, tests will run in-memory DB | 17:45 |
| yvl | open Firefox and do stuff | 17:45 |
| yvl | webdriver is nice, has drivers for Chromium too | 17:45 |
| yvl | and IE, if you want that :) | 17:45 |
| aelkner | and zope.testbrowser, we don't like that anymore? | 17:46 |
| yvl | well, first, we will need to write all tests from scratch anyway | 17:46 |
| yvl | because, you know, we have changed ALL UI | 17:46 |
| aelkner | all flourish tests, that is | 17:47 |
| aelkner | but yes | 17:47 |
| yvl | yes | 17:47 |
| yvl | and I do want something similar to testbrowser | 17:47 |
| yvl | and selenium python bindings are very very close to that | 17:47 |
| yvl | I think we'll wrap what we don't like with thin layer of helpers :) | 17:48 |
| aelkner | yvl, what about the fact that we have always been able to test just the package we work on | 17:48 |
| aelkner | bin/test -vs schooltool/course, for instance | 17:49 |
| aelkner | schooltool.course, i mean | 17:49 |
| yvl | ? | 17:50 |
| yvl | sorry, I don't follow | 17:50 |
| yvl | do you mean - will we able to do that? | 17:50 |
| yvl | then yes | 17:50 |
| aelkner | oh | 17:50 |
| aelkner | will be able to..., when would that be? | 17:50 |
| yvl | a very good question | 17:51 |
| yvl | need some time to play with it to get an estimation | 17:51 |
| aelkner | we already can use testbrowser | 17:51 |
| aelkner | so why are we abandoning something that we already have | 17:51 |
| aelkner | in favor of something that we don't know yet when we will have | 17:51 |
| aelkner | and i'm not even sure what the upgrade would be | 17:51 |
| aelkner | when we have this thing that we don't have | 17:52 |
| yvl | for one, testing javascript | 17:52 |
| aelkner | ah | 17:52 |
| th1a | 'nuff said. | 17:52 |
| yvl | another - open browser when the test breaks pointing at the point where it broke | 17:52 |
| yvl | FFox has stuff like firebug | 17:53 |
| yvl | you can play with xpath expressions there quickly and very very easily | 17:53 |
| yvl | and then paste it where the test broke | 17:53 |
| yvl | and so on | 17:53 |
| aelkner | well, you convinced me | 17:53 |
| yvl | :) | 17:53 |
| th1a | OK, so perhaps yvl should start working on that. | 17:54 |
| aelkner | ok, well i suppose it s up to th1a what the priority of getting that all set up is | 17:54 |
| aelkner | darn, you beat me to it | 17:54 |
| yvl | :D | 17:54 |
| th1a | I don't know why aelkner's high school didn't require typing. | 17:54 |
| yvl | it will take few days, th1a | 17:54 |
| aelkner | because they hated their students? | 17:54 |
| yvl | if that is ok? | 17:54 |
| th1a | It is a problem we have to solve yvl. | 17:55 |
| yvl | True. Just a matter of when. | 17:55 |
| th1a | Well, it blocks everyone else writing tests, so probably sooner rather than later. | 17:55 |
| th1a | Actually aelkner, you should go through your bugs and update the ones that have been fixed in flourish. | 17:58 |
| th1a | Fix this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/schooltool.lyceum.journal/+bug/846448 | 17:58 |
| aelkner | https://bugs.launchpad.net/schooltool.intervention/+bug/715958 | 17:59 |
| th1a | So does aelkner have unit test fixes to do, or have they already been done by replaceafill? | 17:59 |
| aelkner | i didn't know there were any unit tests to fix | 18:00 |
| yvl | th1a, I'm almost finished setting up the instance | 18:00 |
| aelkner | isn't it just the views that may have been broken n the old skin? | 18:00 |
| yvl | please don't go away for few minutes | 18:00 |
| th1a | I won't. | 18:00 |
| th1a | Well, if you run the tests you'll see, presumably. | 18:00 |
| aelkner | i din't try doing bin/test -u on all the packages, so that's something i could do today | 18:01 |
| *** jelkner has joined #schooltool | 18:01 | |
| jelkner | th1a, i just returned to my office to find a voice message from replaceafill | 18:02 |
| aelkner | jelkner, the suspense is killing us... | 18:03 |
| jelkner | he wanted me to let you know that he is ok, he didn't over sleep, but that he has no electricity or Internet in his area | 18:03 |
| th1a | ah ok | 18:03 |
| * th1a was getting worried. | 18:03 | |
| aelkner | did they have a hurricane or something? | 18:03 |
| jelkner | i don't know | 18:04 |
| jelkner | in el salvador, electricity can go out for lots of reasons | 18:04 |
| th1a | I guess it is surprising that doesn't happen more often. | 18:04 |
| jelkner | indeed | 18:04 |
| yvl | at least he's ok! | 18:05 |
| jelkner | he's fine | 18:05 |
| jelkner | i didn't get to talk to him | 18:05 |
| * yvl was getting worried he got sick.. | 18:05 | |
| jelkner | but that's what he said in the message | 18:05 |
| th1a | OK. | 18:06 |
| th1a | We up yvl? | 18:07 |
| yvl | still downloading eggs | 18:07 |
| * yvl set up a shared egg folder, forgot to copy eggs, now somewhere in the middle of downloading everything | 18:08 | |
| aelkner | ran bin/test -u on core, all tests pass | 18:09 |
| aelkner | doing make on gradebook and intervention to run those unit tests | 18:09 |
| yvl | ... and we're up | 18:12 |
| yvl | http://69.164.203.135:38000/manage | 18:12 |
| yvl | or http://69.164.203.135:38000/ for full user experience ;) | 18:12 |
| aelkner | me likey the blue, but that's just personal taste | 18:13 |
| th1a | it is too light for text | 18:13 |
| yvl | right | 18:14 |
| th1a | yvl: Can you quickly move the name/log out back down? | 18:14 |
| yvl | I can try :) | 18:15 |
| yvl | better? | 18:21 |
| th1a | I don't like white space floating at the top. | 18:22 |
| th1a | OK, I'll bounce that back at Vinny. | 18:23 |
| yvl | better? | 18:23 |
| th1a | Yes. | 18:23 |
| th1a | Thanks. | 18:23 |
| th1a | I think we need a third darker color. | 18:24 |
| yvl | you can look at Home | 18:24 |
| yvl | there is a ??% dim on teal in the accordeon | 18:24 |
| th1a | Ah, I'll have him look at that, too. | 18:25 |
| yvl | also - did you click on SchoolTool logo? | 18:25 |
| yvl | I think that's roughly the version they suggest | 18:25 |
| th1a | Oh, cute! | 18:25 |
| yvl | :D | 18:26 |
| th1a | I'm a little worried the hexagon doesn't register as a hexagon in smaller sizes. | 18:26 |
| yvl | that may be my crappy Gimp skills at work | 18:26 |
| yvl | but yes, it is not very obvious | 18:26 |
| th1a | The standard size we display it will need to be as big as possible, unless we can jack it up inside the logo somehow. | 18:27 |
| yvl | right | 18:28 |
| th1a | apt-get install agave | 18:28 |
| th1a | if you want to play with colors. | 18:28 |
| yvl | already have that one ;) | 18:28 |
| th1a | Not that I remember any of that color theory. | 18:28 |
| yvl | that's why people build tools ;) | 18:29 |
| th1a | Well... people do all kinds of stupid shit with tools they don't understand. ;-) | 18:29 |
| yvl | as for general look, the way I skinned it looks a bit too grayish -- again | 18:29 |
| * yvl tends to gray things out :) | 18:29 | |
| th1a | I think there is too much dark gray. | 18:30 |
| yvl | yes | 18:30 |
| th1a | Oh no... now I see it... | 18:30 |
| yvl | (then again, taken by-the-letter from Vinny's fast mock-up) | 18:30 |
| th1a | Slashdot! | 18:30 |
| th1a | lol | 18:30 |
| yvl | :DDD | 18:31 |
| yvl | oh my. | 18:31 |
| yvl | well, "stuff that matters" | 18:31 |
| th1a | Worked for them. | 18:31 |
| th1a | I don't think we have to worry about teachers making that association. | 18:32 |
| *** aks has joined #schooltool | 18:32 | |
| *** aks has joined #schooltool | 18:32 | |
| th1a | OK, I have to pick up Vivian. | 18:32 |
| th1a | I'll send a response to Vinny and show him this (so leave it up). | 18:33 |
| th1a | Oh! | 18:33 |
| * th1a drops the bag of gravel. | 18:33 | |
| th1a | Catch you guys tomorrow. | 18:33 |
| yvl | see you tomorrow | 18:34 |
| yvl | oh | 18:34 |
| yvl | and as for colors | 18:34 |
| aelkner | cya yvl | 18:34 |
| yvl | you could ask Vinny if he could "warm it up a bit" | 18:34 |
| aelkner | oh, th1a is the one that's leaving | 18:34 |
| yvl | :) | 18:34 |
| yvl | well, me too :) | 18:34 |
| aelkner | :) | 18:34 |
| aelkner | ok, then cya was correct | 18:34 |
| yvl | it's ice cold now... | 18:34 |
| th1a | I'm not sure how we'd warm up the teal. | 18:35 |
| yvl | right | 18:35 |
| yvl | make it not teal :D | 18:35 |
| yvl | green? :D | 18:35 |
| th1a | It is livelier than blue. | 18:35 |
| th1a | Better orange, I'd say. | 18:35 |
| yvl | well, that's what we hire them for ;) | 18:35 |
| yvl | Ubuntu took the warm colours :| | 18:35 |
| yvl | ok | 18:36 |
| yvl | see you guys tomorrow! | 18:36 |
| th1a | Later. | 18:36 |
| * th1a out. | 18:36 | |
| yvl | happy coding, aelkner ;) | 18:36 |
| aelkner | thanks yvl | 18:36 |
| *** aks has quit IRC | 19:10 | |
| *** jboisture has joined #schooltool | 19:15 | |
| jboisture | jelkner: can we get started? I need to get going around 1. | 19:33 |
| jelkner | ok | 19:38 |
| jelkner | i'm chatting with mattva01 on google talk | 19:38 |
| jelkner | i'll ask him to move here | 19:39 |
| jboisture | okay great | 19:39 |
| *** mattva01 has joined #schooltool | 19:39 | |
| *** mattva01 has quit IRC | 19:39 | |
| *** mattva01 has joined #schooltool | 19:39 | |
| jelkner | hmmm... | 19:40 |
| jelkner | why does it say "You are currently teaching the following classes: HILT A - ICT"? | 19:40 |
| jelkner | I am teaching that class | 19:40 |
| jelkner | but I have 2 others as well | 19:40 |
| jelkner | how do i choose? | 19:40 |
| jelkner | jboisture, i believe you should answer this one ;-) | 19:41 |
| jboisture | shoot, I guess I didn't test it with more than one section of the same course | 19:41 |
| jelkner | that's why we test | 19:42 |
| jelkner | actually, we may want to ask the ST guys about this | 19:42 |
| jelkner | because it occurs to me this may be a more general issue | 19:42 |
| jelkner | does ST treat each section-term as a separate section? | 19:43 |
| mattva01 | no | 19:43 |
| mattva01 | it's like | 19:43 |
| jelkner | good | 19:43 |
| mattva01 | section/1/term/1 | 19:43 |
| mattva01 | afaik | 19:43 |
| jelkner | i hope | 19:43 |
| jelkner | so i need to see each section | 19:44 |
| jelkner | not each section-term | 19:44 |
| jelkner | jboisture, what do you say, same time tomorrow? | 19:44 |
| jelkner | i have more flexibility tomorrow | 19:44 |
| jelkner | i'm here until 7 pm or later | 19:44 |
| jboisture | lets do it at 2 if thats fine I have class around now | 19:45 |
| jelkner | we need to keep running this play until we get it right | 19:45 |
| mattva01 | works for me | 19:45 |
| mattva01 | it's easier for me to make 2 | 19:45 |
| jelkner | 2 pm works for me too | 19:45 |
| jelkner | ok, mattva01 - can you be here at 2? | 19:45 |
| mattva01 | jelkner: yeah | 19:45 |
| jboisture | ok great talk to you all then | 19:45 |
| jelkner | see you tomorrow at 2, jboisture, with all sections visible | 19:45 |
| jboisture | yes thats the plan | 19:46 |
| *** jboisture has quit IRC | 19:51 | |
| *** menesis has quit IRC | 20:06 | |
| *** jelkner has quit IRC | 20:15 | |
| th1a | aelkner: ayt? | 20:22 |
| *** mattva01 has quit IRC | 20:36 | |
| *** jboisture has joined #schooltool | 21:03 | |
| *** jboisture has quit IRC | 21:20 | |
| aelkner | th1a, i'm here | 21:43 |
| th1a | Did we add contacts to the excel import at some point? | 21:43 |
| aelkner | no, we don't have a contacts folder coded yet | 21:45 |
| th1a | Folder? | 21:46 |
| aelkner | sheet | 21:47 |
| aelkner | confused my terms there | 21:47 |
| th1a | Probably that's something we should try to squeeze in the release... | 21:47 |
| aelkner | we need to start by updating sample_data.xls to have the Contacts sheet | 21:47 |
| th1a | But I want to make sure yvl and replaceafill haven't done it at some point for one reason or another that didn't get into trunk somehow. | 21:48 |
| aelkner | we would need to discuss how to format that best for the user | 21:48 |
| th1a | I feel like I had this conversation before. | 21:48 |
| aelkner | then I could work on my own on getting it to work | 21:48 |
| th1a | Let's just double check tomorrow. | 21:48 |
| th1a | It should be pretty straightforward. | 21:48 |
| aelkner | ok, we're still doing mon, tues, thurs, right? | 21:48 |
| th1a | y | 21:49 |
| aelkner | ok, so i don't need as many tasks for tomorrow as i would for thurs | 21:49 |
| aelkner | i found unit test bugs in schooltool.gradebook | 21:50 |
| aelkner | haven't checked intervention yet, but i can fin an fix those | 21:50 |
| th1a | OK. | 21:50 |
| aelkner | you figure i should just take any bug in my queue and fix it | 21:50 |
| th1a | Also, Done's and the double absence thing and yes, other bugs. | 21:51 |
| aelkner | ok, i'll keep busy | 21:51 |
| aelkner | how about the nfl, i think our fortunes are gong in opposite directions | 21:52 |
| aelkner | i mean, i don't want to rub a sore spot, but what's up with the AFC chanps?! | 21:52 |
| th1a | Well, I thought the Steelers were all going to get old at the same time LAST YEAR. | 21:52 |
| th1a | So maybe they just delayed that one more year. | 21:53 |
| aelkner | they didn't get a good rookies in the las two drafts? | 21:53 |
| th1a | Also, post-Super Bowl loss letdown. | 21:53 |
| aelkner | ah, yeas, that | 21:53 |
| th1a | Yes, but not as many as they'd need to replace. | 21:53 |
| th1a | Harrison had back surgery. | 21:53 |
| aelkner | i heard a stat once about how often super bowl losers don't even make the playoffs | 21:54 |
| aelkner | ugh, Harrison is out? | 21:54 |
| th1a | And the defense is complicated, so it takes time to get really good. | 21:54 |
| th1a | No, | 21:54 |
| th1a | Offseason surgery. | 21:54 |
| aelkner | back but slowed? | 21:54 |
| th1a | But he's not exactly a guy who beats you with his brain. | 21:54 |
| th1a | Yeah, just not in peak shape. | 21:54 |
| aelkner | well, you guys have had enough success lately, time to step aside and let the OTHER Penn. team enjoy some | 21:55 |
| th1a | Your turn to lose in the Super Bowl. | 21:55 |
| aelkner | yeah, right :) | 21:56 |
| th1a | The Steelers game might have been a bit of a fluke, but I'm not counting on it. | 21:57 |
| th1a | Well... actually their getting to the Super Bowl last year was the real fluke. | 21:57 |
| th1a | Sneaking your way into the Super Bowl is a sure way to have a bad following season. | 21:59 |
| aelkner | i suppose | 21:59 |
| *** replaceafill has joined #schooltool | 22:08 | |
| * replaceafill is back... | 22:08 | |
| replaceafill | th1a sorry that i missed the meeting | 22:08 |
| replaceafill | i just saw jelkner gave you my message | 22:08 |
| * replaceafill needs to write th1a's phone number on a paper :) | 22:09 | |
| replaceafill | aelkner you there? | 22:09 |
| th1a | replaceafill: 401-785-3648 | 22:10 |
| replaceafill | th1a thanks | 22:11 |
| th1a | I'm in the book. ;-) | 22:11 |
| replaceafill | th1a should i follow you with the spanish translation? | 22:12 |
| replaceafill | i mean, after you push | 22:12 |
| th1a | Oh, I'm not going to get started on that today, but generally yes. | 22:12 |
| replaceafill | oops | 22:12 |
| replaceafill | you meant the phone book :P | 22:12 |
| th1a | I'm mulling over colors. | 22:12 |
| replaceafill | i though you were on the schooltool book :D | 22:13 |
| th1a | lol yes. | 22:13 |
| th1a | replaceafill: I guess yvl got done with everything I need as far as the ui protoype. | 22:16 |
| replaceafill | th1a ah ok | 22:16 |
| replaceafill | i'm looking at his instance | 22:16 |
| aelkner | replaceafill, what's up? | 22:17 |
| replaceafill | aelkner have you started with this journal bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/schooltool.lyceum.journal/+bug/846448 | 22:17 |
| aelkner | nope | 22:17 |
| replaceafill | i tracked down and i know how to fix it | 22:17 |
| replaceafill | can i take it? | 22:17 |
| aelkner | cool, take it | 22:17 |
| replaceafill | aelkner thanks, will do | 22:18 |
| * replaceafill likes the teal version :) | 22:18 | |
| *** replaceafill_ has joined #schooltool | 22:21 | |
| *** replaceafill has quit IRC | 22:22 | |
| *** replaceafill_ is now known as replaceafill | 22:22 | |
| *** Lumiere has quit IRC | 22:24 | |
| *** Lumiere has joined #schooltool | 22:24 | |
| *** Lumiere has quit IRC | 22:24 | |
| *** Lumiere has joined #schooltool | 22:24 | |
| *** jboisture has joined #schooltool | 22:53 | |
| *** jboisture has quit IRC | 23:38 | |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.15.1 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
